Hornady Lock-n-Load speed sabots

petemi · 01-25-2008, 10:18 PM

I recently bought a couple packs of Hornady's Lock-N-Load Speed Sabots. A buddy of mine, who builds traditional muzzleloaders from scratch, looked at them and said. "I don't think they'll work properly." I asked why, and he said "The hole in the pellet is where the fire from the primer goes to ignite the charge. If you close it with a plastic stick, it'll slow ignition." Well, I shot 10 of the 20 and had two hangfires. I don't know if it is the proper term, but ignition delay long enough to put you off target. I decided to just cut off the plastic rod and load them as regular sabots.

Anyone out there know anything about this?

GlockMeister · 01-25-2008, 10:26 PM

No, never heard of it. Maybe contact the manufacturer/Hornady and bring it up with them. Have your buddy maybe write down what he said he thinks the problem is. That way it can be explained to them the best possible way along with you also mentioning the 2 miss fires or hangfires? that you said you had. Maybe those 2 were just bad rounds, it does happen. After all, 8 of the 10 were good right? Maybe go ahead and try the other 10? Your call.

I find it hard to believe that a well known company/brand such as Hornady would knowingly market a product that won't work properly.

G-Meister

dogman2 · 01-25-2008, 10:43 PM

Two of my friends have used the hornady l-n-l for years and have never had a misfire of any type. They keep reordering them from me so must work.

petemi · 01-26-2008, 07:12 AM

Thanks guys, I'll try the other ten. The rifle was clean, and I had previously shot 30 times with other sabots and cones without a problem.

burd1959 · 01-26-2008, 08:09 AM

try trimming it up a quarter inch into the powder pelet leaving a little room for the spark from the primer ive never had a miss fire with them if your using regular powder then tap the powder over into the flash tube for the primer then seat your bulet see if that helps and a real clean muzzle stuffer helps too

andrew cochran · 01-27-2008, 05:27 PM

The hole in the pellet may help ignition but the black end is the ingition source. I have read that it is black powder on the end which ignites better than pyrodex. The pellets work like a rocket engine, the hole serving a number of purpses not all nessary. The lock and load works just fine for me. The hole is not for ignition, as far as I know.

petemi · 01-27-2008, 07:07 PM

If it ever stops snowin' and blowin' around here, maybe I can get outside for ten minutes to try the lock and loads again before the blackflies eat me!!

webs · 01-29-2008, 10:29 AM

I shoot Hornady Lock-N- Loads out of my Remington 700 ML 50 cal. and have never had a problem with ignition.Like Andrew said,the shiny black end of the pellets needs to face the breech and the cap.I shoot the 240 gr.bullets and find them to be accurate as well as very deadly.

daddus1 · 01-30-2008, 08:53 PM

I have shot them out of a Knight with 209 primer ignition, but I would also heed webs advice

roger460xvr · 02-18-2008, 08:14 PM

I've never had a problem either, i shoot them out of my knight bighorn useing 300gr bullets.......roger

01-25-2008, 10:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
petemi Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Engadine, Upper Peninsula, MI Posts: 86	Hornady Lock-n-Load speed sabots I recently bought a couple packs of Hornady's Lock-N-Load Speed Sabots. A buddy of mine, who builds traditional muzzleloaders from scratch, looked at them and said. "I don't think they'll work properly." I asked why, and he said "The hole in the pellet is where the fire from the primer goes to ignite the charge. If you close it with a plastic stick, it'll slow ignition." Well, I shot 10 of the 20 and had two hangfires. I don't know if it is the proper term, but ignition delay long enough to put you off target. I decided to just cut off the plastic rod and load them as regular sabots. Anyone out there know anything about this?

01-25-2008, 10:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 3,860	No, never heard of it. Maybe contact the manufacturer/Hornady and bring it up with them. Have your buddy maybe write down what he said he thinks the problem is. That way it can be explained to them the best possible way along with you also mentioning the 2 miss fires or hangfires? that you said you had. Maybe those 2 were just bad rounds, it does happen. After all, 8 of the 10 were good right? Maybe go ahead and try the other 10? Your call. I find it hard to believe that a well known company/brand such as Hornady would knowingly market a product that won't work properly. G-Meister __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

01-27-2008, 05:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
andrew cochran Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Little town in ARKANSAW! Posts: 1,470	The hole in the pellet may help ignition but the black end is the ingition source. I have read that it is black powder on the end which ignites better than pyrodex. The pellets work like a rocket engine, the hole serving a number of purpses not all nessary. The lock and load works just fine for me. The hole is not for ignition, as far as I know. __________________ Just an old hillbilly, who can shoot real good!

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01-25-2008, 10:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
dogman2 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Iowa Posts: 178	Two of my friends have used the hornady l-n-l for years and have never had a misfire of any type. They keep reordering them from me so must work.

01-26-2008, 07:12 AM	#4 (permalink)
petemi Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Engadine, Upper Peninsula, MI Posts: 86	Thanks guys, I'll try the other ten. The rifle was clean, and I had previously shot 30 times with other sabots and cones without a problem.

01-26-2008, 08:09 AM	#5 (permalink)
burd1959 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: burton michigan Posts: 598	try trimming it up a quarter inch into the powder pelet leaving a little room for the spark from the primer ive never had a miss fire with them if your using regular powder then tap the powder over into the flash tube for the primer then seat your bulet see if that helps and a real clean muzzle stuffer helps too

01-27-2008, 07:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
petemi Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Engadine, Upper Peninsula, MI Posts: 86	If it ever stops snowin' and blowin' around here, maybe I can get outside for ten minutes to try the lock and loads again before the blackflies eat me!!

01-29-2008, 10:29 AM	#8 (permalink)
webs Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 209 Images: 3	I shoot Hornady Lock-N- Loads out of my Remington 700 ML 50 cal. and have never had a problem with ignition.Like Andrew said,the shiny black end of the pellets needs to face the breech and the cap.I shoot the 240 gr.bullets and find them to be accurate as well as very deadly.

01-30-2008, 08:53 PM	#9 (permalink)
daddus1 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 15	I have shot them out of a Knight with 209 primer ignition, but I would also heed webs advice

02-18-2008, 08:14 PM	#10 (permalink)
roger460xvr Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: sebring florida Posts: 51 Images: 2	I've never had a problem either, i shoot them out of my knight bighorn useing 300gr bullets.......roger