.300, .308, or 7mm?

NBMss346 · 11-13-2003, 11:41 AM

I'm looking into finding a rifle to sporterize myself over x-period of time. Recoil doesn't matter to me, but I'm going to distance and accuracy. What would be a good caliber to choose? I would be looking for something used around the $300 range, and go from there.

NRAJOE · 11-13-2003, 11:55 AM

I'd go .308 :right:

NBMss346 · 11-13-2003, 11:57 AM

That's kinda what I'm thinking, but why the .308 over the .300 mag? Different velocities? I know my dad used a .308 when he was a Marine, but I didn't kow exactly why.

NRAJOE · 11-13-2003, 12:01 PM

I'd go with it because of cost and battlefield proven reliabilty and knockdown power.

NBMss346 · 11-13-2003, 12:03 PM

Can't beat battlefield proven ability! :assult:

NRAJOE · 11-13-2003, 12:08 PM

http://www.gunnersden.com/index.htm....allistics.html

NBMss346 · 11-13-2003, 01:10 PM

Thanks! Now to find one...
I had thought about souping up the .223, but I use it too much for hunting.

pmspinnerb8 · 11-13-2003, 01:27 PM

Cut the difference and get a Rem 700 ADL 30-06 or a used BDL. 30-06 is right in between a .308 and a .300 mag and easy ammo, lots of choices. You go out to the boonies to hunt and forget your ammo, you will find some place that sales 30-06 ammo.

NBMss346 · 11-13-2003, 02:15 PM

That IS true, (to most rednecks here in Arkansas, the ONLY rifle is a 30-06) But the .308 or .300 will be target-only. I use my brother's 30-30 for a brush gun.

Dale · 11-13-2003, 02:23 PM

Do you ever intend to get into reloading or not?

If not I'd go for the .308 if it's just for sport shooting.

The 30.06 is a VERY close second, and in some instances, better.

If you're gonna get into reloading either round can be refined to a good and super accurate recipe for the gun. Any gun as long as it's not a sloppy action and the chamber and bore is not shot.

With either the 30.06 or .308 your putting out the same bullet. The .308 can be refined just a hair better than 30.06... but not enough to matter unless you get into competition shooting or long range shooting (300 yd plus).

NBMss346 · 11-13-2003, 02:31 PM

One day I do plan to get into reloading. Not within the next year or so, though. I have a car hobby (a really big one) and I'm just now adding sport shooting, so I don't have the time to put forth. You guys are great about info here! :nod:

BattleRifleG3 · 11-13-2003, 02:37 PM

What range you plan to shoot at? If it's target only, no hunting, I'd say 308 definitely. Most affordable, lowest recoil, most common, almost as powerful as 30-06 (practically the same ballistics), chambered the most accurate of rifles.

Big Dog · 11-13-2003, 05:22 PM

I'd agree with the .308, unless you wanted to get into extreme-long range - that's where the magnums would shine.
I'm partial to Savages, especially with the new adjustable trigger - very nice! They tend to be more affordable than the Remchesters, though you can find used Remingtons and Winchesters for a decent price.

NBMss346 · 11-13-2003, 06:13 PM

Extreme long range is considered... anything over 700 meters? I maxed my ability out at a 300 meter range with a 30.06 one time, but I'd like to see how far I could stretch it.

jerry · 11-13-2003, 06:53 PM

308.
Proven
Accurate
Powerful enough for most North American big game, bar moose, elk, bear.
Versitile (especially for the hand loader)
Available in many platforms.
Easy to shoot
Wide availability of off the shelf ammo.
etc. etc.....

alan c. · 11-15-2003, 12:35 PM

7mm mag.

11-13-2003, 11:41 AM	#1
NBMss346 Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 35	.300, .308, or 7mm? I'm looking into finding a rifle to sporterize myself over x-period of time. Recoil doesn't matter to me, but I'm going to distance and accuracy. What would be a good caliber to choose? I would be looking for something used around the $300 range, and go from there. __________________ 1998 Camaro SS Antonio Zoli .20g O/U Ruger Mini-14 Ranch Rifle Benelli Nova Smith and Wesson .380 Sigma

11-13-2003, 11:55 AM	#2
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 18,662 Images: 5	I'd go .308 :right: __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

11-13-2003, 11:57 AM	#3
NBMss346 Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 35	That's kinda what I'm thinking, but why the .308 over the .300 mag? Different velocities? I know my dad used a .308 when he was a Marine, but I didn't kow exactly why. __________________ 1998 Camaro SS Antonio Zoli .20g O/U Ruger Mini-14 Ranch Rifle Benelli Nova Smith and Wesson .380 Sigma

11-13-2003, 12:01 PM	#4
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 18,662 Images: 5	I'd go with it because of cost and battlefield proven reliabilty and knockdown power. __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

11-13-2003, 12:03 PM	#5
NBMss346 Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 35	Can't beat battlefield proven ability! :assult: __________________ 1998 Camaro SS Antonio Zoli .20g O/U Ruger Mini-14 Ranch Rifle Benelli Nova Smith and Wesson .380 Sigma

11-13-2003, 12:08 PM	#6
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 18,662 Images: 5	http://www.gunnersden.com/index.htm....allistics.html __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

11-13-2003, 01:10 PM	#7
NBMss346 Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 35	Thanks! Now to find one... I had thought about souping up the .223, but I use it too much for hunting. __________________ 1998 Camaro SS Antonio Zoli .20g O/U Ruger Mini-14 Ranch Rifle Benelli Nova Smith and Wesson .380 Sigma

11-13-2003, 01:27 PM	#8
pmspinnerb8 Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lonestar State Posts: 286	Cut the difference and get a Rem 700 ADL 30-06 or a used BDL. 30-06 is right in between a .308 and a .300 mag and easy ammo, lots of choices. You go out to the boonies to hunt and forget your ammo, you will find some place that sales 30-06 ammo. __________________ Two in the chest and one in the head and even the Green Giant falls down dead.

11-13-2003, 02:15 PM	#9
NBMss346 Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 35	That IS true, (to most rednecks here in Arkansas, the ONLY rifle is a 30-06) But the .308 or .300 will be target-only. I use my brother's 30-30 for a brush gun. __________________ 1998 Camaro SS Antonio Zoli .20g O/U Ruger Mini-14 Ranch Rifle Benelli Nova Smith and Wesson .380 Sigma

11-13-2003, 02:23 PM	#10
Dale Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Too Dang Hot, Arizona Posts: 4,284	Do you ever intend to get into reloading or not? If not I'd go for the .308 if it's just for sport shooting. The 30.06 is a VERY close second, and in some instances, better. If you're gonna get into reloading either round can be refined to a good and super accurate recipe for the gun. Any gun as long as it's not a sloppy action and the chamber and bore is not shot. With either the 30.06 or .308 your putting out the same bullet. The .308 can be refined just a hair better than 30.06... but not enough to matter unless you get into competition shooting or long range shooting (300 yd plus). __________________ "It confuses me how some people can vigorously go against the 2nd. Amendment and still call themselves patriotic"-me Last edited by Dale; 11-13-2003 at 02:27 PM.

11-13-2003, 02:31 PM	#11
NBMss346 Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 35	One day I do plan to get into reloading. Not within the next year or so, though. I have a car hobby (a really big one) and I'm just now adding sport shooting, so I don't have the time to put forth. You guys are great about info here! :nod: __________________ 1998 Camaro SS Antonio Zoli .20g O/U Ruger Mini-14 Ranch Rifle Benelli Nova Smith and Wesson .380 Sigma

11-13-2003, 02:37 PM	#12
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,397 Images: 13	What range you plan to shoot at? If it's target only, no hunting, I'd say 308 definitely. Most affordable, lowest recoil, most common, almost as powerful as 30-06 (practically the same ballistics), chambered the most accurate of rifles. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

11-13-2003, 05:22 PM	#13
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 9,479	I'd agree with the .308, unless you wanted to get into extreme-long range - that's where the magnums would shine. I'm partial to Savages, especially with the new adjustable trigger - very nice! They tend to be more affordable than the Remchesters, though you can find used Remingtons and Winchesters for a decent price. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

11-13-2003, 06:13 PM	#14
NBMss346 Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 35	Extreme long range is considered... anything over 700 meters? I maxed my ability out at a 300 meter range with a 30.06 one time, but I'd like to see how far I could stretch it. __________________ 1998 Camaro SS Antonio Zoli .20g O/U Ruger Mini-14 Ranch Rifle Benelli Nova Smith and Wesson .380 Sigma

11-13-2003, 06:53 PM	#15
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10,640 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 1	308. Proven Accurate Powerful enough for most North American big game, bar moose, elk, bear. Versitile (especially for the hand loader) Available in many platforms. Easy to shoot Wide availability of off the shelf ammo. etc. etc..... __________________

11-15-2003, 12:35 PM	#16
alan c. Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tejas-formerly known as Texas.- Gulf Coast Area. Posts: 3,739 Images: 14 Blog Entries: 33	7mm mag. __________________ God Bless. From Tejas -- formerly known as Texas.

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