Somebody, Anybody

YugoM59/66 · 09-02-2005, 01:25 PM

my buddy has a rifle that he calls a SAR8. now i havent ever heard of it and wasnt able to find it on the internet anywhere. he wants to sell it to me but i havent seen it nor do i know anything about it. if anyone has ANY info on this rifle it would be greatly appreciated. or a link to a picture or something

Big Dog · 09-02-2005, 01:55 PM

The SAR8 is Springfield Armory's version of the HK91/G3 rifle. Supposed to be a very good rifle. Far above the Century Monkey-assembled guns.

I don't know what a fair price would be though.

rebel727 · 09-02-2005, 02:27 PM

Got one on gunbroker for 1500.00
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=36556059

YugoM59/66 · 09-02-2005, 08:26 PM

he said he only wanted 1000 for it...if it's in good condition should i go for it? it could be stolen...this guy seems nice but i barely know him...and i dont know how he could afford it because people say he doesnt make that much money

Oxford · 09-02-2005, 08:46 PM

Ask him for his bill of sale or other type of ownership proof. If he doesn't have any proof...you may be about to buy something that's not his to sell.

:nod: Remember, if it's hot, and LEO's trace it to you, at the least you'll be out the $1,000 if that's what you pay for it.

But...from what's been posted above...if it's in the same condition as in the link...then it sure would be a desirable gun to own. :right:

YugoM59/66 · 09-02-2005, 09:07 PM

i dont even consider it being my gun but i bought a little .22lr for my first rifle for 70 bucks and then the guy ratted on me...i think im sticking to dealers only from now on

Oxford · 09-02-2005, 09:12 PM

Good advice you're following. But...if you buy elsewhere, I would bet you'll only buy from someone in which you have total confidence and trust.

YugoM59/66 · 09-02-2005, 09:15 PM

darn right...could i call the authorities and see if it's been reported stolen if i had the serial number?? i really want that gun but i just got off probation for recieving so i cant take any chances or theyll think im stealing guns or something

Oxford · 09-02-2005, 09:20 PM

In that case I would definitely pass on the gun. Too many scenario's could develop from your request from LEO's. Then only consider buying guns from registered dealers, or from someone in which you have total confidence in it's authenticity and legality. I'm sure you wouldn't want to do anything which could bring LEO's down on you a second time.

Otter · 09-02-2005, 09:20 PM

Call the police and ask them nicely if they could run the serial number through NCIC, almost any department will do it for you over the telephone. Possession of a stolen firearm is a class A felony, then it's up to you to prove where you got it. Anytime I look at a used weapon that's not in a reputable shop, I wear latex gloves to handle it until I own it, and the first call I make is to the police department with the serial number. They have always been happy to do it for me, they don't want you buying a stolen gun any more than you do.

"Life is too important to be taken seriously."

YugoM59/66 · 09-02-2005, 10:07 PM

i think im gonna get the serial number and call the authorities...if its legit, i cant pass it up...but ill make sure to wear gloves when i look at it...didnt think about it...but they did take my prints when i got arrested last time

Calvin · 09-02-2005, 11:14 PM

Here in Ohio, you must physically take the weapon to the local PD. They won't run just a serial number over the phone. They take physical possession of it until the check is completed. If it's legit, they'll call you and let you know. If it's not, they'll ask you some questions about who, when, and where.
If it's legit, you'll have no problems. Otherwise, you'll have to prove you knew nothing about it being hot. They won't throw you in jail, or anything like that. But, they'll want to know where you got it at, who you got it from, and when you took possession of it.

YugoM59/66 · 09-02-2005, 11:28 PM

that sux...im in ohio...i guess im just gonna forget about it...ive always wanted a night vision scope...maybe thats what ill buy

Otter · 09-03-2005, 03:05 AM

You can call another agency, just because you live in Ohio doesn't mean you can't call another cop shop, I live in Vermont, when I found an ad for a CZ75 in N.C. I called the PD in Eden, NC. and they ran the number for me. I don't see why Ohio wouldn't do that over the phone, you want to know before you buy. I deal with my home town more than anyone, simply because I have that number in my phone. Call your local PD and ask, tell them you won't buy until you know, the seller showed you the weapon and you took down the number. It's not an unusual, or unreasonable request.
Even when you buy used from a dealer, a gun could be stolen, the only difference is you have proof where you got it. A low life can steal a gun, take it out of state and sell it to a gun shop, not many shops will call the PD to check the number. In New York a shop cannot buy a pistol that isn't listed on your permit unless you bring in a LEO to confirm the gun has been checked.
My local dealer gets people calling to get serial numbers from guns they bought years before, because the gun was stolen and they never recorded the number. He doesn't charge for the service and it can take him hours to find the record of the sale.

"Life is too important to be taken seriously."

Calvin · 09-03-2005, 10:13 PM

Otter, the laws in Ohio are set no matter where you live.They must have the weapon in their possession to run it through LEADS. I've had this question posed more than a hundred times while on duty.

BattleRifleG3 · 09-06-2005, 01:25 PM

I have an FA-91 that is pretty similar to the SAR-8, down to the aluminum receiver with integrated scope rail. I paid $500 for mine. There were extras that made it a good deal in retrospect, but I probably could have done better. If you have any reason to believe that the guy selling is less than reputable, DO NOT BUY. There are a zillion things that could be shaft you besides it being stolen. Remember the parts compliance fiasco?

There are friends I would buy from and there's everyone else. Whenever I do a private sale, I exchange signatures and some government ID# for private records only, stating that the buyer can legally buy and that I am the lawful owner of the gun when I sell it. If it ever became an issue, you could then check up on it. If all is well, then the records can just sit there inaccessible to any illegitimate parties.

09-02-2005, 01:25 PM	#1
YugoM59/66 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 139	Somebody, Anybody my buddy has a rifle that he calls a SAR8. now i havent ever heard of it and wasnt able to find it on the internet anywhere. he wants to sell it to me but i havent seen it nor do i know anything about it. if anyone has ANY info on this rifle it would be greatly appreciated. or a link to a picture or something

09-02-2005, 01:55 PM	#2
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,205	The SAR8 is Springfield Armory's version of the HK91/G3 rifle. Supposed to be a very good rifle. Far above the Century Monkey-assembled guns. I don't know what a fair price would be though. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

09-02-2005, 02:27 PM	#3
rebel727 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Heidelberg, Mississippi Posts: 1,541	Got one on gunbroker for 1500.00 http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=36556059 __________________ North-1 South-0 HALFTIME!

09-02-2005, 08:46 PM	#5
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,022 Blog Entries: 4	Ask him for his bill of sale or other type of ownership proof. If he doesn't have any proof...you may be about to buy something that's not his to sell. :nod: Remember, if it's hot, and LEO's trace it to you, at the least you'll be out the $1,000 if that's what you pay for it. But...from what's been posted above...if it's in the same condition as in the link...then it sure would be a desirable gun to own. :right: __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

09-02-2005, 09:12 PM	#7
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,022 Blog Entries: 4	Good advice you're following. But...if you buy elsewhere, I would bet you'll only buy from someone in which you have total confidence and trust. __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

09-02-2005, 08:26 PM	#4
YugoM59/66 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 139	he said he only wanted 1000 for it...if it's in good condition should i go for it? it could be stolen...this guy seems nice but i barely know him...and i dont know how he could afford it because people say he doesnt make that much money

09-02-2005, 09:07 PM	#6
YugoM59/66 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 139	i dont even consider it being my gun but i bought a little .22lr for my first rifle for 70 bucks and then the guy ratted on me...i think im sticking to dealers only from now on

09-02-2005, 09:15 PM	#8
YugoM59/66 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 139	darn right...could i call the authorities and see if it's been reported stolen if i had the serial number?? i really want that gun but i just got off probation for recieving so i cant take any chances or theyll think im stealing guns or something

09-02-2005, 09:20 PM	#9
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,022 Blog Entries: 4	In that case I would definitely pass on the gun. Too many scenario's could develop from your request from LEO's. Then only consider buying guns from registered dealers, or from someone in which you have total confidence in it's authenticity and legality. I'm sure you wouldn't want to do anything which could bring LEO's down on you a second time. __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

09-02-2005, 09:20 PM	#10
Otter Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vermont Posts: 949 Images: 6	Call the police and ask them nicely if they could run the serial number through NCIC, almost any department will do it for you over the telephone. Possession of a stolen firearm is a class A felony, then it's up to you to prove where you got it. Anytime I look at a used weapon that's not in a reputable shop, I wear latex gloves to handle it until I own it, and the first call I make is to the police department with the serial number. They have always been happy to do it for me, they don't want you buying a stolen gun any more than you do. "Life is too important to be taken seriously." __________________ Life is too important to be taken seriously.

09-02-2005, 10:07 PM	#11
YugoM59/66 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 139	i think im gonna get the serial number and call the authorities...if its legit, i cant pass it up...but ill make sure to wear gloves when i look at it...didnt think about it...but they did take my prints when i got arrested last time

09-02-2005, 11:14 PM	#12
Calvin Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 1,996	Here in Ohio, you must physically take the weapon to the local PD. They won't run just a serial number over the phone. They take physical possession of it until the check is completed. If it's legit, they'll call you and let you know. If it's not, they'll ask you some questions about who, when, and where. If it's legit, you'll have no problems. Otherwise, you'll have to prove you knew nothing about it being hot. They won't throw you in jail, or anything like that. But, they'll want to know where you got it at, who you got it from, and when you took possession of it.

09-02-2005, 11:28 PM	#13
YugoM59/66 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 139	that sux...im in ohio...i guess im just gonna forget about it...ive always wanted a night vision scope...maybe thats what ill buy

09-03-2005, 03:05 AM	#14
Otter Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vermont Posts: 949 Images: 6	You can call another agency, just because you live in Ohio doesn't mean you can't call another cop shop, I live in Vermont, when I found an ad for a CZ75 in N.C. I called the PD in Eden, NC. and they ran the number for me. I don't see why Ohio wouldn't do that over the phone, you want to know before you buy. I deal with my home town more than anyone, simply because I have that number in my phone. Call your local PD and ask, tell them you won't buy until you know, the seller showed you the weapon and you took down the number. It's not an unusual, or unreasonable request. Even when you buy used from a dealer, a gun could be stolen, the only difference is you have proof where you got it. A low life can steal a gun, take it out of state and sell it to a gun shop, not many shops will call the PD to check the number. In New York a shop cannot buy a pistol that isn't listed on your permit unless you bring in a LEO to confirm the gun has been checked. My local dealer gets people calling to get serial numbers from guns they bought years before, because the gun was stolen and they never recorded the number. He doesn't charge for the service and it can take him hours to find the record of the sale. "Life is too important to be taken seriously." __________________ Life is too important to be taken seriously.

09-03-2005, 10:13 PM	#15
Calvin Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 1,996	Otter, the laws in Ohio are set no matter where you live.They must have the weapon in their possession to run it through LEADS. I've had this question posed more than a hundred times while on duty.

09-06-2005, 01:25 PM	#16
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	I have an FA-91 that is pretty similar to the SAR-8, down to the aluminum receiver with integrated scope rail. I paid $500 for mine. There were extras that made it a good deal in retrospect, but I probably could have done better. If you have any reason to believe that the guy selling is less than reputable, DO NOT BUY. There are a zillion things that could be shaft you besides it being stolen. Remember the parts compliance fiasco? There are friends I would buy from and there's everyone else. Whenever I do a private sale, I exchange signatures and some government ID# for private records only, stating that the buyer can legally buy and that I am the lawful owner of the gun when I sell it. If it ever became an issue, you could then check up on it. If all is well, then the records can just sit there inaccessible to any illegitimate parties. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf