New .45 Submachine Gun

Dallas · 11-17-2007, 09:35 AM

The link below is for a company marketing a new .45 submachinegun. I sure wish I had a class 3 license and some money sometimes.

KRISS-TDI.com - Announcing the KRISS Super V™

knightRider · 11-17-2007, 10:50 AM

i want one !!!!!!!!!!!!!! i emailed my ???? hope they email me good news

ArkansasHunter · 11-17-2007, 11:06 AM

There weird looking !

JohnRaven.exe · 11-17-2007, 11:13 AM

Saw this on Future Weapons a few months back. Looks pretty sweet.

SilverRun · 11-17-2007, 11:46 AM

Looks cool, but is not leagal in my state - even with ATF approval. SBR's are not allowed in AL - one of the few stupid gun laws we have.

Dallas · 11-17-2007, 11:55 AM

I noticed on the ad they are going to market a semi-auto version.

rckymtnboy · 11-17-2007, 03:12 PM

Looks kinda cool, but how practical is it in that caliber? I'd rather carry an M4 in .223, and a .45 pistol for close range.

gunney_m · 11-17-2007, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rckymtnboy

Looks kinda cool, but how practical is it in that caliber? I'd rather carry an M4 in .223, and a .45 pistol for close range.

Exactly, now that's a machinegun I couldn't afford the ammo for.

BattleRifleG3 · 11-17-2007, 04:15 PM

They could make it without the stock as a pistol or with a 16" barrel as a carbine.

I actually had a similar idea a while back, but much less state of the art, for a sort of straightline pistol. Glad they're making it in 45. I'd be a little concerned with the wear on the cammed recoil system, but I suppose modern lubricants may take care of that.

Big Dog · 11-17-2007, 04:42 PM

Federal Law precludes us from owning a machinegun manufactured after May of 1986 - period!
If one has a Class II Manufacturer's license, he can build one for his own use, and sell it to Government and Law Enforcement, but NOT to a citizen. My shooting buddy looked into that at one time.
A semi-auto could be interesting. We need some more pistol-caliber carbine options, especially in .45ACP.

FutureMarine9 · 11-17-2007, 09:54 PM

As far as .45 sub-machine guns go the H&K UMP .45 looks really good and i heard it was more controllable full-auto than the .9mm Mp5 i don't know if thats true but thats what i heard, a semi-auto one would be nice though

BattleRifleG3 · 11-17-2007, 10:16 PM

HK's UMP 45 was adapted to a semi-auto version called the USC carbine.

Tex in Maine · 11-17-2007, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Dog

Federal Law precludes us from owning a machinegun manufactured after May of 1986 - period!

Yes, because everybody know's the machilne guns made prior to 1986 are total crud and could'nt kill a fly. Really, someone actually gets paid to make this crud up?

Big Dog · 11-18-2007, 10:24 AM

Tex, look into the laws. It's true.

That's a major reason for the skyrocketing prices of full auto - only so many saleable weapons out there for the average guy. It's a seller's market, for sure.
My buddy just sold his Cobray MAC11 for three times the original purchase price. He said he wishes he'd bought more back then - about 2001. They are excellent investments - far better return than a 401k.

meatloaf · 11-19-2007, 03:19 PM

I cant wait to see the civillian model, perhaps they can make a pistol with the same 2 degree recoil! I would pay alot for that worth not buying a new gun for a full year to save up for it. It's gotta be exspensive.

Cyrano · 12-13-2007, 04:35 PM

If you're looking for a submachine gun as a home defense weapon, to my way of thinking you'd be better off with an Ingram, an Uzi or even an old M3 Grease Gun. Smaller, shorter, easier to maneuver in tight quarters and proven designs that won't break the bank - if you have the right caliber of license to own one and if you can find one.

knightRider · 12-13-2007, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyrano

If you're looking for a submachine gun as a home defense weapon, to my way of thinking you'd be better off with an Ingram, an Uzi or even an old M3 Grease Gun. Smaller, shorter, easier to maneuver in tight quarters and proven designs that won't break the bank - if you have the right caliber of license to own one and if you can find one.

i would say Bushmasters ar15 pistol is better suited in my opioin , laser on it and shoot to kill!

russmacc · 12-13-2007, 04:51 PM

i have seen this it kicks ass

blackmax3 · 01-04-2008, 04:33 PM

I have an Eagle 45 acp looks like thomson,trying to find it's value.

knightRider · 01-04-2008, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmax3

I have an Eagle 45 acp looks like thomson,trying to find it's value.

What does this have to do with this thread?

11-17-2007, 09:35 AM	#1
Dallas PUKHA DAWG Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Virginia, just outside of Washington D.C. Posts: 3,596	New .45 Submachine Gun The link below is for a company marketing a new .45 submachinegun. I sure wish I had a class 3 license and some money sometimes. KRISS-TDI.com - Announcing the KRISS Super V™ __________________ Those who forget History are condemed to repeat it.

11-17-2007, 10:50 AM	#2
knightRider Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: you know where Posts: 2,683 Images: 19 Blog Entries: 11	i want one !!!!!!!!!!!!!! i emailed my ???? hope they email me good news __________________ I'm part kalishnakov, part heckler and Koch.

11-17-2007, 11:13 AM	#4
JohnRaven.exe Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 219	Saw this on Future Weapons a few months back. Looks pretty sweet. __________________ The right to own guns is the right to resist tyranny.

11-17-2007, 11:55 AM	#6
Dallas PUKHA DAWG Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Virginia, just outside of Washington D.C. Posts: 3,596	I noticed on the ad they are going to market a semi-auto version. __________________ Those who forget History are condemed to repeat it.

11-17-2007, 03:12 PM	#7
rckymtnboy Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: I am a dual resident. Posts: 340 Images: 20	Looks kinda cool, but how practical is it in that caliber? I'd rather carry an M4 in .223, and a .45 pistol for close range. __________________ When they come for my guns, I'll give 'em the bullets first!

11-17-2007, 11:06 AM	#3
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,722	There weird looking !

11-17-2007, 11:46 AM	#5
SilverRun Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: AL Posts: 1,661	Looks cool, but is not leagal in my state - even with ATF approval. SBR's are not allowed in AL - one of the few stupid gun laws we have.

11-17-2007, 04:15 PM	#9
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	They could make it without the stock as a pistol or with a 16" barrel as a carbine. I actually had a similar idea a while back, but much less state of the art, for a sort of straightline pistol. Glad they're making it in 45. I'd be a little concerned with the wear on the cammed recoil system, but I suppose modern lubricants may take care of that. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

11-17-2007, 04:42 PM	#10
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,219	Federal Law precludes us from owning a machinegun manufactured after May of 1986 - period! If one has a Class II Manufacturer's license, he can build one for his own use, and sell it to Government and Law Enforcement, but NOT to a citizen. My shooting buddy looked into that at one time. A semi-auto could be interesting. We need some more pistol-caliber carbine options, especially in .45ACP. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

11-17-2007, 09:54 PM	#11
FutureMarine9 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: connecticut Posts: 177	As far as .45 sub-machine guns go the H&K UMP .45 looks really good and i heard it was more controllable full-auto than the .9mm Mp5 i don't know if thats true but thats what i heard, a semi-auto one would be nice though __________________ Semper Fi Anti gun is anti fun

11-17-2007, 10:16 PM	#12
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	HK's UMP 45 was adapted to a semi-auto version called the USC carbine. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

11-18-2007, 10:24 AM	#14
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,219	Tex, look into the laws. It's true. That's a major reason for the skyrocketing prices of full auto - only so many saleable weapons out there for the average guy. It's a seller's market, for sure. My buddy just sold his Cobray MAC11 for three times the original purchase price. He said he wishes he'd bought more back then - about 2001. They are excellent investments - far better return than a 401k. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

11-19-2007, 03:19 PM	#15
meatloaf Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: lakewood CO Posts: 904 Images: 3	I cant wait to see the civillian model, perhaps they can make a pistol with the same 2 degree recoil! I would pay alot for that worth not buying a new gun for a full year to save up for it. It's gotta be exspensive.

12-13-2007, 04:35 PM	#16
Cyrano Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New York Posts: 2,362	If you're looking for a submachine gun as a home defense weapon, to my way of thinking you'd be better off with an Ingram, an Uzi or even an old M3 Grease Gun. Smaller, shorter, easier to maneuver in tight quarters and proven designs that won't break the bank - if you have the right caliber of license to own one and if you can find one.

12-13-2007, 04:51 PM	#18
russmacc Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1	i have seen this it kicks ass

01-04-2008, 04:33 PM	#19
blackmax3 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 9	45 Eagle I have an Eagle 45 acp looks like thomson,trying to find it's value.