Submachine guns in semi auto?

nick112207 · 12-06-2007, 10:29 PM

what submachine guns are out there that are semi auto only? i have no need from a class 3 gun or license. idk if anyone even does make them and if they do is it possible to get one without taking a mortgage

blaster · 12-06-2007, 10:53 PM

almost all the more common smgs have semi auto variations.

nick112207 · 12-06-2007, 10:58 PM

and very high price tags im guessing

Big Dog · 12-07-2007, 04:22 AM

I've found most semi-auto carbines (the proper term for them) to be less than satisfactory. They are heavy, to withstand the recoil of full-auto firing - so they tend to be far heavier than their size would suggest. Accuracy is usually not the best - they weren't intended as gnat-poppers. Ergonomics are generally lacking. Triggers often are slap-happy. Sights tend to be rudimentary.
Barrels must be of legal length, so we lose the handy shortness of many subguns.

Still, I'd love to have a semi-auto Thompson . . .

nathangdad · 12-07-2007, 07:25 AM

There are several models out there but, really, they are good for those interested in the design as they are not good at target work or the accuracy needed for hunting. If you just want the design then get the Khar Thompson look a-like.

knightRider · 12-07-2007, 08:20 AM

semi auto bushmaster pistols what i found to like

look cool shoot cool

just_a_car · 12-07-2007, 10:39 AM

I think kR has you pegged.

Unless you get something registered as a pistol, an SMG is going to be a short-barreled-rifle and subject to Form 4, $200 tax stamp and, as you said you didn't want, "Class III". Plus, in some states (such as mine), SBS's and SBR's are outright illegal.

knightRider · 12-07-2007, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by just_a_car

I think kR has you pegged.

Unless you get something registered as a pistol, an SMG is going to be a short-barreled-rifle and subject to Form 4, $200 tax stamp and, as you said you didn't want, "Class III". Plus, in some states (such as mine), SBS's and SBR's are outright illegal.

just those reasons , gawd we are so good Just a Car

MgMn48 · 12-08-2007, 12:53 AM

TommyGunner.com - Resource for Thomson SMG Tommy Gun Shooters and Collectors They have new semi-auto Thompsons for sale at various prices and styles. Check your state laws before purchasing. All NFA firearms transactions are handled by T.S.C. and a SOT copy in Blue Ink is required to ship. T.S.C. will only ship NFA items to a SOT holder with the proper copy....NO EXCEPTIONS SO PLEASE DO NOT ASK! Price does not include transfer tax to be paid by the customer to the ATF.

nick112207 · 12-08-2007, 11:58 AM

man would i love to have a tommy gun even if it was semi auto. i actually have a friend whos dad owned a full auto tommy gun with a 50 round drum AND a full auto AKS-47. Idk if they were registered let alone legally owned (his dad now resides in the state penitentiary on multiple major drug charges)

knightRider · 12-08-2007, 12:22 PM

you can get a semi auto tommy gun full lenght rifle from auto ordanece for like 1000 bucks that takes the drums , with out a class 3 its just if you get a short barrelled rifle when you need the stamp

Rem 742 30-06 · 12-08-2007, 11:09 PM

I have two err one word Hi-point

nick112207 · 12-08-2007, 11:11 PM

i see lots of people with hi-points

knightRider · 12-09-2007, 01:30 PM

i would trust my life to a bushmaster pistol and 30 rounds of 223 sure beat 10 rounds of 9mm from a hipoint any day IMO

Big Dog · 12-09-2007, 02:45 PM

Saw a "Commando Mk.45" today at the gunshow - a semi-auto .45ACP weapon styled after the Thompson - not a direct copy. Never liked them in pictures. In the metal? Hoowee! Lust was strong in this Dawg! It looked like great range fun! But my wallet said "NO!"
Danggit.

Cyrano · 12-24-2007, 09:02 PM

Big Dog, that Commando version of the Thompson looks like the one my dad carried in World War II - at least, it has all the features he spoke of. I always thought it was about the optimum version of the Thompson for military use. (Dad actually wound up in front of his battalion commander because an order had come down restricting carriage of the Thompson to sergeants and up; and rather than use a Garand he'd taken to carrying a Schmeisser on patrol. His arguments were persuasive enough that the Colonel told his company commander to give Dad his Thompson back even though he was only a corporal in a sergeant's job. He really loved that weapon.)

I think I'm going to start saving up my pennies. From what I have read in Massad Ayoob's books, there are three sounds that will scare an intruder to death: the ti-CHAK of a 12-gauge pump action chambering a round; the whirr-SNAP of a M1911A1 slide snapping closed; and the ka-chook of a Thompson's bolt locking into the ready-to-fire position. Dad always appreciated fine machinery, and if he liked the Thompson I'll happily settle for a semi-auto version.

RMTactical · 12-26-2007, 03:06 AM

These look great!

Professional Arms, LLC

just_a_car · 12-26-2007, 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RMTactical

These look great!

Professional Arms, LLC

Yeah, that does look neat...

And they even say they're coming out with a MK5sp "semi-auto" "pistol" version that would be the only way to get it without it being a "short-barreled rifle" and the only way I'd be able to legally own one in Washington State (SBR's and SBS's are illegal here). I definitely like the idea that the calibers will be interchangable and they're planning on making it a 9-caliber weapon. Hope they're not too expensive (yeah, right!).

blackmax3 · 01-04-2008, 04:39 PM

I have an Eagle 45 acp semi auto, looks like thomson, anyone know what it is worth, looking to sell it, really good condition

damage855 · 01-08-2008, 01:11 PM

I have a cobray mac-11 thats a lot of fun but the "trigger slap" is annoying. but it is made up for with the tacti-cool sholder sling I got with it.

12-06-2007, 10:29 PM	#1
nick112207 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 337	Submachine guns in semi auto? what submachine guns are out there that are semi auto only? i have no need from a class 3 gun or license. idk if anyone even does make them and if they do is it possible to get one without taking a mortgage

12-06-2007, 10:53 PM	#2
blaster Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: big pine key, florida Posts: 435	almost all the more common smgs have semi auto variations. __________________ peace through superior firepower

12-07-2007, 04:22 AM	#4
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,213	I've found most semi-auto carbines (the proper term for them) to be less than satisfactory. They are heavy, to withstand the recoil of full-auto firing - so they tend to be far heavier than their size would suggest. Accuracy is usually not the best - they weren't intended as gnat-poppers. Ergonomics are generally lacking. Triggers often are slap-happy. Sights tend to be rudimentary. Barrels must be of legal length, so we lose the handy shortness of many subguns. Still, I'd love to have a semi-auto Thompson . . . __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

12-07-2007, 07:25 AM	#5
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,466	Not very useful There are several models out there but, really, they are good for those interested in the design as they are not good at target work or the accuracy needed for hunting. If you just want the design then get the Khar Thompson look a-like.

12-07-2007, 08:20 AM	#6
knightRider Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: you know where Posts: 2,683 Images: 19 Blog Entries: 11	semi auto bushmaster pistols what i found to like look cool shoot cool __________________ I'm part kalishnakov, part heckler and Koch. Last edited by knightRider; 12-07-2007 at 08:21 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

12-06-2007, 10:58 PM	#3
nick112207 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 337	and very high price tags im guessing

12-07-2007, 10:39 AM	#7
just_a_car Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Edmonds, WA Posts: 3,521	I think kR has you pegged. Unless you get something registered as a pistol, an SMG is going to be a short-barreled-rifle and subject to Form 4, $200 tax stamp and, as you said you didn't want, "Class III". Plus, in some states (such as mine), SBS's and SBR's are outright illegal. __________________

12-08-2007, 12:53 AM	#9
MgMn48 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 38	TommyGunner.com - Resource for Thomson SMG Tommy Gun Shooters and Collectors They have new semi-auto Thompsons for sale at various prices and styles. Check your state laws before purchasing. All NFA firearms transactions are handled by T.S.C. and a SOT copy in Blue Ink is required to ship. T.S.C. will only ship NFA items to a SOT holder with the proper copy....NO EXCEPTIONS SO PLEASE DO NOT ASK! Price does not include transfer tax to be paid by the customer to the ATF.

12-08-2007, 11:58 AM	#10
nick112207 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 337	man would i love to have a tommy gun even if it was semi auto. i actually have a friend whos dad owned a full auto tommy gun with a 50 round drum AND a full auto AKS-47. Idk if they were registered let alone legally owned (his dad now resides in the state penitentiary on multiple major drug charges)

12-08-2007, 12:22 PM	#11
knightRider Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: you know where Posts: 2,683 Images: 19 Blog Entries: 11	you can get a semi auto tommy gun full lenght rifle from auto ordanece for like 1000 bucks that takes the drums , with out a class 3 its just if you get a short barrelled rifle when you need the stamp __________________ I'm part kalishnakov, part heckler and Koch.

12-08-2007, 11:09 PM	#12
Rem 742 30-06 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern Wisconsin Posts: 390	I have two err one word Hi-point __________________ http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...5c158a2d7a.jpg

12-08-2007, 11:11 PM	#13
nick112207 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 337	i see lots of people with hi-points

12-09-2007, 01:30 PM	#14
knightRider Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: you know where Posts: 2,683 Images: 19 Blog Entries: 11	i would trust my life to a bushmaster pistol and 30 rounds of 223 sure beat 10 rounds of 9mm from a hipoint any day IMO __________________ I'm part kalishnakov, part heckler and Koch.

12-09-2007, 02:45 PM	#15
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,213	Saw a "Commando Mk.45" today at the gunshow - a semi-auto .45ACP weapon styled after the Thompson - not a direct copy. Never liked them in pictures. In the metal? Hoowee! Lust was strong in this Dawg! It looked like great range fun! But my wallet said "NO!" Danggit. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

12-24-2007, 09:02 PM	#16
Cyrano Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New York Posts: 2,356	Big Dog, that Commando version of the Thompson looks like the one my dad carried in World War II - at least, it has all the features he spoke of. I always thought it was about the optimum version of the Thompson for military use. (Dad actually wound up in front of his battalion commander because an order had come down restricting carriage of the Thompson to sergeants and up; and rather than use a Garand he'd taken to carrying a Schmeisser on patrol. His arguments were persuasive enough that the Colonel told his company commander to give Dad his Thompson back even though he was only a corporal in a sergeant's job. He really loved that weapon.) I think I'm going to start saving up my pennies. From what I have read in Massad Ayoob's books, there are three sounds that will scare an intruder to death: the ti-CHAK of a 12-gauge pump action chambering a round; the whirr-SNAP of a M1911A1 slide snapping closed; and the ka-chook of a Thompson's bolt locking into the ready-to-fire position. Dad always appreciated fine machinery, and if he liked the Thompson I'll happily settle for a semi-auto version.

12-26-2007, 03:06 AM	#17
RMTactical Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Rocky Mountains Posts: 173	These look great! Professional Arms, LLC

01-04-2008, 04:39 PM	#19
blackmax3 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 9	I have an Eagle 45 acp semi auto, looks like thomson, anyone know what it is worth, looking to sell it, really good condition

01-08-2008, 01:11 PM	#20
damage855 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina / Lake Norman Posts: 928 Blog Entries: 1	I have a cobray mac-11 thats a lot of fun but the "trigger slap" is annoying. but it is made up for with the tacti-cool sholder sling I got with it. __________________ If total goverment control will make us all safer, then why are prisons so dangerous?