AA-12, status?

Coeloptera · 03-03-2008, 01:32 AM

YouTube - AA-12. World's deadliest shotgun!

I just found about this thing. The AA-12 full-auto shotgun and the Frag 12 fin-stabilized grenade round.

Anyone know the status of this? Is it still in development? Will it be purchased?

I must admit it's gorgeous.

- Coeloptera

GlockMeister · 03-03-2008, 06:14 AM

Think it's only available for military and LEO. At least that's what I was to understand when I did a search a while back when someone else asked about it. I hadn't heard of it and was curious so I googled it... Also that's what the dude that hosts weaponology on the military channel stated when he demonstrated it during one of the episodes...

A-10 · 03-03-2008, 06:16 AM

As far as I know, it's only Blackwater USA that has it right now.

Zephri · 03-03-2008, 08:17 AM

A semi auto version would be awesome.

tlarkin · 03-03-2008, 10:38 AM

I think its for sale and just waiting for the Military to pick it up. At least when I saw that weapons show episode with the AA12 on it, that is what it said.

I wonder how heavy that sucker is?

Coeloptera · 03-03-2008, 11:35 AM

It didn't look like it was very heavy at all. I imagine it's the stainless steel with a polymer stock and all the plastic in the transparent drum. 32 rounds of 12 ga. ammo is going to have some weight to it, but nothing excessive.

But a semi-auto version would be sweet as pie. It looked awfully comfortable and really didn't seem to have much in the way of recoil, like he said.

Besides, semi-auto shotguns already exist anyway, like the Beretta Xtrema2, so it's not like it'd be running afoul of any weird laws.

Blackwater's the only ones who have it now? Pity. The Army could sure use that in urban warfare, I'd imagine.

- Coeloptera

Windwalker · 03-03-2008, 02:34 PM

1. Is there not a Federal Law prohibiting mercenaries from operating in the United States? If so, why is it not being enforced regarding Blackwater as it is a Mercenary Group?
2. How are mercenaries able to buy, own, or use full automatic weapons in the United States?

tlarkin · 03-03-2008, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Windwalker

1. Is there not a Federal Law prohibiting mercenaries from operating in the United States? If so, why is it not being enforced regarding Blackwater as it is a Mercenary Group?
2. How are mercenaries able to buy, own, or use full automatic weapons in the United States?

Are they? I thought privatized military was not allowed to operate on US soil? Is that not the case? I think they were referring to in a time of national disaster and the US doesn't have the man power they may contract out people to fill in ranks.

Windwalker · 03-03-2008, 05:38 PM

Mercenary: A person (or in this case a group) who take part in the hostilities of an armed conflict for private gain substantially in excess of that paid by the armed forces.
I believe this accurately describes Blackwater's roll in Iraq. This is why I would like answers to the two questions I asked in post #7.

simpleman601 · 03-30-2008, 10:49 AM

The perfect gun for the blind deer hunter.... lol

meatloaf · 04-12-2008, 12:06 AM

I want one it could keep my siaga 12 company.

03-03-2008, 06:14 AM	#2 (permalink)
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 3,860	Think it's only available for military and LEO. At least that's what I was to understand when I did a search a while back when someone else asked about it. I hadn't heard of it and was curious so I googled it... Also that's what the dude that hosts weaponology on the military channel stated when he demonstrated it during one of the episodes... __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

03-03-2008, 06:16 AM	#3 (permalink)
A-10 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 720	As far as I know, it's only Blackwater USA that has it right now. __________________ If there's nothing worth dying for, there's nothing worth living for.

03-03-2008, 08:17 AM	#4 (permalink)
Zephri Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Indianapolis, IN. "The city where nothing happens." Posts: 829 Blog Entries: 5	A semi auto version would be awesome. __________________ "All rifles need a sharp pointy object on the end!" http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l195/zephri/

03-03-2008, 02:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
Windwalker Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 2,707	1. Is there not a Federal Law prohibiting mercenaries from operating in the United States? If so, why is it not being enforced regarding Blackwater as it is a Mercenary Group? 2. How are mercenaries able to buy, own, or use full automatic weapons in the United States? __________________ America: Love it and protect it or leave it

03-03-2008, 05:38 PM	#9 (permalink)
Windwalker Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 2,707	Mercenary: A person (or in this case a group) who take part in the hostilities of an armed conflict for private gain substantially in excess of that paid by the armed forces. I believe this accurately describes Blackwater's roll in Iraq. This is why I would like answers to the two questions I asked in post #7. __________________ America: Love it and protect it or leave it

03-03-2008, 10:38 AM	#5 (permalink)
tlarkin Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 1,521	I think its for sale and just waiting for the Military to pick it up. At least when I saw that weapons show episode with the AA12 on it, that is what it said. I wonder how heavy that sucker is?

03-03-2008, 11:35 AM	#6 (permalink)
Coeloptera Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 920	It didn't look like it was very heavy at all. I imagine it's the stainless steel with a polymer stock and all the plastic in the transparent drum. 32 rounds of 12 ga. ammo is going to have some weight to it, but nothing excessive. But a semi-auto version would be sweet as pie. It looked awfully comfortable and really didn't seem to have much in the way of recoil, like he said. Besides, semi-auto shotguns already exist anyway, like the Beretta Xtrema2, so it's not like it'd be running afoul of any weird laws. Blackwater's the only ones who have it now? Pity. The Army could sure use that in urban warfare, I'd imagine. - Coeloptera

03-30-2008, 10:49 AM	#10 (permalink)
simpleman601 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mississippi Posts: 82	The perfect gun for the blind deer hunter.... lol __________________ "...the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

04-12-2008, 12:06 AM	#11 (permalink)
meatloaf Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: lakewood CO Posts: 706 Images: 3	I want one it could keep my siaga 12 company.

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