Dragunov Rifle

PONTIACDM · 04-25-2008, 01:44 PM

Dragunov Rifle
7.62x54R
Dragunov Rifle 7.62x54R Part #DRA-GUN - DRA-GUN
I was thinking of purchasing one of these. Anyone out there have one? What have you guys heard about it. I wanted a svt40 but I keep reading about all the problems. It's a little long but it's the only other 7.62x54 semi auto that I know about.

squirrelblaster · 04-25-2008, 01:53 PM

just make sure you dont get one of the fakes made out of the romanian Aks.

Mooseman684 · 04-25-2008, 01:55 PM

That ad is Mis-leading...That is a ROMAK and not a Dragunov...Other than Cosmetically, it is Nothing like a true Dragunov action...We have discussed this many times on the forum...They are Sold out of the Romaks for now too.
A TRUE Dragunov starts at about 2000.00 UP !
Rich

nick112207 · 04-25-2008, 03:37 PM

yeah i was going to say holy crap 700 is cheap for one. i still think they look good though

Ferroflame · 04-25-2008, 03:50 PM

I've held that very rifle.

It's shorter than you'd think... at least to me it was.

I saw no resemblance to the AK-47, other than the cosmetic parts.

I dunno. You may want to research it a bit more, or call Centerfire and ask some questions about it, if you have any. They're really nice people. =] I'm sure they'd be glad to help you out.

Mooseman684 · 04-25-2008, 03:50 PM

Here is a pic of them side by side...The lower one is the Dragunov "Tiger",
The top one is the Romak....

Rich

PONTIACDM · 04-26-2008, 02:02 AM

I want a semi 7.62x54 rifle. It really doesn't matter if it's the real dragunov or not as long as it's a good rifle.

GlockMeister · 04-26-2008, 02:05 AM

Moose, when are you going to be sending my Dragunov "Tiger" back to me? You said you'd only need it for a couple weeks. LOL

Mooseman684 · 04-26-2008, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlockMeister

Moose, when are you going to be sending my Dragunov "Tiger" back to me? You said you'd only need it for a couple weeks. LOL

When you send My 2500.00 Deposit back...LOL

Rich

nathangdad · 04-26-2008, 02:22 AM

In the earlier days of the Vietnam conflict the CIA had an offer of
$25,000.00 for one of these rifles.

The Russian rifle from that period was found to be combat tough but it was not found to have target grade accuracy.

GlockMeister · 04-26-2008, 02:36 AM

So they, the CIA, wanted to pay or would have paid or probably paid, $25K for one just to copy it? Because it worked and worked well I take it?

SwedeSteve · 04-26-2008, 04:32 AM

Probably to use it, me thinks?

nathangdad · 04-26-2008, 10:11 AM

Not to copy it.
To completely understand the engineering, the metallurgy, the ballistics,
the quality of construction, and the accuracy.
It was part of the ongoing program to accumulate Russian and Chinese weapons with the goal of always equipping the American military with
superior weapons.
In the early days of Vietnam it was thought Russians were in the field using the rifle against American forces.

gandog56 · 05-01-2008, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mooseman684

That ad is Mis-leading...That is a ROMAK and not a Dragunov...Other than Cosmetically, it is Nothing like a true Dragunov action...We have discussed this many times on the forum...They are Sold out of the Romaks for now too.
A TRUE Dragunov starts at about 2000.00 UP !
Rich

And is this the same thing?

Dragunov Rifle 7.62x54R w/ 5 Mags, Scope & Bayo Part #DRAGUNFPK - DRAGUNFPK

Amarksman · 05-01-2008, 09:31 PM

Or this? Atlantic firearms - AR15 & AK47 rifles - Olympic arms at wholesale prices.

They actually market it as a dragunov....I was contimplating ordering one. centerfire seems to be a better deal if they were in stock.

Mooseman684 · 05-01-2008, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gandog56

And is this the same thing?
Dragunov Rifle 7.62x54R w/ 5 Mags, Scope & Bayo Part #DRAGUNFPK - DRAGUNFPK

Same thing..A Romanian AK...ROMAK

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amarksman

Or this? Atlantic firearms - AR15 & AK47 rifles - Olympic arms at wholesale prices.

They actually market it as a dragunov....I was contimplating ordering one. centerfire seems to be a better deal if they were in stock.

Same thing...ROMAK...

They are NOT Dragunov actions...Just stocked like them and shoot 7.62 X 54 ammo...

gandog56 · 05-02-2008, 05:54 PM

So you are saying I guess loosely that a lot of places are calling any kind of semi-auto that fires 7.62X54R a Dragunov? Or is it just Romaks?

cr107 · 05-11-2008, 10:57 PM

if you look hard enough you can find a real dragunov. i found one TODAY for 2159.99. original working rifle. from russia.

GlennM · 05-11-2008, 11:08 PM

I owned one for about 2 years back in the early 90's (when the REAL ones sold for less than $800.). I traded it at a gun show because it wouldn't shoot groups acceptable to what I thought a rifle reputed to be a "military sniper rifle" should print. On its best day, with the very best loads I had worked up for it, it would barely shoot 1.5 MOA in a 10-shot group. There were 3 shot groups that would hold inside 1 inch, but they were the exception.

Back in the 70's, you couldn't get Coors anywhere in the St. Louis area... so when you could find it, it carried a price tag associated with the allure of something you couldn't get easily. After owning the Drag, I put it in the same category... and traded it off. And now, of course, they're much higher. But you can get 3 GOOD shooting AR's for what you'll pay for a Drag. But to each his own. If you want one, have the cash, then by all means GET one.

Archklaine · 06-30-2008, 03:38 PM

are there any online chats around? I'm new around this sites and can't really find my way around

04-25-2008, 01:44 PM	#1
PONTIACDM Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: OHIO Posts: 1,443	Dragunov Rifle Dragunov Rifle 7.62x54R Dragunov Rifle<br>7.62x54R<br>Part #DRA-GUN - DRA-GUN I was thinking of purchasing one of these. Anyone out there have one? What have you guys heard about it. I wanted a svt40 but I keep reading about all the problems. It's a little long but it's the only other 7.62x54 semi auto that I know about. __________________ I Pledge Allegiance To The Flag And If That Bothers You, Well That's to Bad! "Aaron Tippin"

04-25-2008, 01:53 PM	#2
squirrelblaster lord of lego turtles! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,494	just make sure you dont get one of the fakes made out of the romanian Aks. __________________ "I like Turtles!" youtube kid

04-25-2008, 01:55 PM	#3
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness. Unit 13 Posts: 11,316 Images: 2	That ad is Mis-leading...That is a ROMAK and not a Dragunov...Other than Cosmetically, it is Nothing like a true Dragunov action...We have discussed this many times on the forum...They are Sold out of the Romaks for now too. A TRUE Dragunov starts at about 2000.00 UP ! Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

04-25-2008, 03:50 PM	#6
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness. Unit 13 Posts: 11,316 Images: 2	Here is a pic of them side by side...The lower one is the Dragunov "Tiger", The top one is the Romak.... Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

04-26-2008, 02:02 AM	#7
PONTIACDM Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: OHIO Posts: 1,443	I want a semi 7.62x54 rifle. It really doesn't matter if it's the real dragunov or not as long as it's a good rifle. __________________ I Pledge Allegiance To The Flag And If That Bothers You, Well That's to Bad! "Aaron Tippin"

04-25-2008, 03:37 PM	#4
nick112207 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 544	yeah i was going to say holy crap 700 is cheap for one. i still think they look good though

04-25-2008, 03:50 PM	#5
Ferroflame Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 577	I've held that very rifle. It's shorter than you'd think... at least to me it was. I saw no resemblance to the AK-47, other than the cosmetic parts. I dunno. You may want to research it a bit more, or call Centerfire and ask some questions about it, if you have any. They're really nice people. =] I'm sure they'd be glad to help you out.

04-26-2008, 02:05 AM	#8
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 9,676	Moose, when are you going to be sending my Dragunov "Tiger" back to me? You said you'd only need it for a couple weeks. LOL __________________ "The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." "Edmond Burke"

04-26-2008, 02:22 AM	#10
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,172	A little history In the earlier days of the Vietnam conflict the CIA had an offer of $25,000.00 for one of these rifles. The Russian rifle from that period was found to be combat tough but it was not found to have target grade accuracy.

04-26-2008, 02:36 AM	#11
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 9,676	So they, the CIA, wanted to pay or would have paid or probably paid, $25K for one just to copy it? Because it worked and worked well I take it? __________________ "The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." "Edmond Burke"

04-26-2008, 04:32 AM	#12
SwedeSteve Suspected Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Anchortown, Alaska Posts: 23,576 Images: 1	Probably to use it, me thinks? __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

04-26-2008, 10:11 AM	#13
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,172	To GlockMeister Not to copy it. To completely understand the engineering, the metallurgy, the ballistics, the quality of construction, and the accuracy. It was part of the ongoing program to accumulate Russian and Chinese weapons with the goal of always equipping the American military with superior weapons. In the early days of Vietnam it was thought Russians were in the field using the rifle against American forces.

05-01-2008, 09:31 PM	#15
Amarksman Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: behind you Posts: 215	Or this? Atlantic firearms - AR15 & AK47 rifles - Olympic arms at wholesale prices. They actually market it as a dragunov....I was contimplating ordering one. centerfire seems to be a better deal if they were in stock.

05-02-2008, 05:54 PM	#17
gandog56 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Montgomery, IL. Posts: 11,801	So you are saying I guess loosely that a lot of places are calling any kind of semi-auto that fires 7.62X54R a Dragunov? Or is it just Romaks?

05-11-2008, 10:57 PM	#18
cr107 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Loganville, Ga Posts: 841	if you look hard enough you can find a real dragunov. i found one TODAY for 2159.99. original working rifle. from russia.

05-11-2008, 11:08 PM	#19
GlennM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 356 Blog Entries: 1	I owned one for about 2 years back in the early 90's (when the REAL ones sold for less than $800.). I traded it at a gun show because it wouldn't shoot groups acceptable to what I thought a rifle reputed to be a "military sniper rifle" should print. On its best day, with the very best loads I had worked up for it, it would barely shoot 1.5 MOA in a 10-shot group. There were 3 shot groups that would hold inside 1 inch, but they were the exception. Back in the 70's, you couldn't get Coors anywhere in the St. Louis area... so when you could find it, it carried a price tag associated with the allure of something you couldn't get easily. After owning the Drag, I put it in the same category... and traded it off. And now, of course, they're much higher. But you can get 3 GOOD shooting AR's for what you'll pay for a Drag. But to each his own. If you want one, have the cash, then by all means GET one. __________________ *The Cataclysm Scroll* is now available! www.gmillercompanies.com

06-30-2008, 03:38 PM	#20
Archklaine Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Suceava Posts: 1	are there any online chats around? I'm new around this sites and can't really find my way around