svd vs m21

therifleman · 07-11-2008, 10:34 AM

i like the svd better than the m21 , no real reson just i like the svd better

nighthawk80 · 07-11-2008, 11:30 AM

Ok, I like the M21 better.

TheWanderingMind · 07-11-2008, 11:55 AM

So? What's wrong with the Springfield 03A3?

therifleman · 07-11-2008, 12:00 PM

nothing

therifleman · 07-12-2008, 01:46 PM

heres a mans rifle

therifleman · 07-12-2008, 01:52 PM

the top 2 are svd clones , but the last rifle is a psl

therifleman · 07-12-2008, 01:56 PM

the m21

therifleman · 07-12-2008, 01:57 PM

now whats better eh

therifleman · 07-12-2008, 02:35 PM

anybody wanna post

Bravo · 07-16-2008, 08:01 PM

I'll take the M21. The answer is similar to what I posted in your 9mm vs 7.62Tok post.

The M21 costs well over $1000. A SVD can be found for under $500. The difference is in material cost and production time. The M21 has barrels that are floating, receivers that are bedded.

The M21 has less recoil than the SVD, yet the M21 uses a cartridge that wins 1000 yard shoots every year.

They weigh roughly the same, yet the M21 is shorter, meaning it is easier to travel with.

The SVD is a rifle that was massed produced to arm snipers within communist countries.

The M21 is a rifle that is extremely accurate and used by our best marksmen.

Most importantly, the M21 is based on the M-14 platform. The M-14 is based on the M-1 Garand platform. The M-1 Garand is one of the greatest weapons of war ever created.

When asking myself which I like best, I answer the question: Would I rather have a snipers rifle created from an M-1 Garand, or a snipers rifle created from an AK-47 with a long barrel.

For me, the answer has to be the M-21

therifleman · 07-17-2008, 07:55 AM

a svd does not turely work like a ak just looks like it

therifleman · 07-17-2008, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by therifleman

a svd does not turely work like a ak just looks like it

well it does sorta the svd has a short action and the ak47 has the long action the short action is more accurate plus the x54r round is a LOT more powerful

Pronsias · 07-17-2008, 01:00 PM

Bravo, where are you finding SVDs for under $500. They're usually 4 figures. The PSL ("Romak") shown above can dip below $500, but although it superficially resembles the SVD, it is a different rifle and the parts are not interchangeable.

As to the OP, it's hard to say. Are "real" M21's easy to find even, or are they all just civilian modded M-14/M1As? I'd slightly lean towards the M21, but I'd want to pick up an SVD too if I had the money.

USAF_462/2W1X1 · 07-17-2008, 01:29 PM

Several reasons for this actually:

Amercian made and as Bravo pointed out, based on the M1 Garand design.

American made rifles have, for over a century and a half, been some of the best on the market. I was thinking in terms of actual U.S.G.I. rifles, starting with the M1855 Springfield rifled-musket. If you want to take into account the locally made "Kentucky Rifles" that some backwoodsmen and frontiersmen brought to bear on the Brits during the Revolution, then so be it.

The SVD, while retaining its Kalishnikov breathren-like looks, IS a totally seperate weapon, but still made, IMHO, to sub-par standards. Mass produced, in the simplest way possible for the non-professional soldier to use after a rudimentary introduction. While we as Americans, generally pride ourselves on our marksmenship, and as such generally know our weapons pretty damned well, inside and out.

On top of all these reasons, the M21 can be easily modded to your own specs with a plethra of aftermarket and USGI stocks, scopes, barrels, sights, bipods, and even magazines. Plus, with the ever venerable 7.62 NATO round, you really can't go wrong. So in a true SHTF scenario, you would be more likely to find 7.62 NATO rounds than you would 7.62x54r rounds.

Bravo · 07-17-2008, 03:00 PM

Ahhh, I was looking at PSL's...they were around $500.

But that doesn't change my decision. If anything, it reinforces it, since the SVD is the same price as the M21...

You're right when you say the SVD and AK-47 aren't exactly alike. They function very similarly, and yes, the SVD is many times more accurate.

But, for the many reasons that I listed above, I still would take the M-21. More specifically, the M-25 that I attached, which is a modified Springfield M21.

therifleman · 07-17-2008, 03:08 PM

nice rifle you atached there

therifleman · 07-17-2008, 03:11 PM

the longer the barrel the better the svd is longer

Jack75 · 07-17-2008, 03:22 PM

im going to have to go with the svd id love to have one but ar comes first

therifleman · 07-20-2008, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bravo

Ahhh, I was looking at PSL's...they were around $500.

But that doesn't change my decision. If anything, it reinforces it, since the SVD is the same price as the M21...

You're right when you say the SVD and AK-47 aren't exactly alike. They function very similarly, and yes, the SVD is many times more accurate.

But, for the many reasons that I listed above, I still would take the M-21. More specifically, the M-25 that I attached, which is a modified Springfield M21.

But Bravo the svd has a longer barrel.

Bravo · 07-20-2008, 08:31 AM

Yeah, the SVD does have a longer barrel. But at that point, I don't think the short barrel of the M-21 is hurting accuracy at all. I think the higher quality barrel probably makes up for and potential loss in accuracy.

The result is a rifle that is equally as accurate (if not more accurate) than the SVD, but is shorter/more compact, making it easier to carry in combat situations.

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Bravo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Maine, USA Posts: 1,897	I'll take the M21. The answer is similar to what I posted in your 9mm vs 7.62Tok post. The M21 costs well over $1000. A SVD can be found for under $500. The difference is in material cost and production time. The M21 has barrels that are floating, receivers that are bedded. The M21 has less recoil than the SVD, yet the M21 uses a cartridge that wins 1000 yard shoots every year. They weigh roughly the same, yet the M21 is shorter, meaning it is easier to travel with. The SVD is a rifle that was massed produced to arm snipers within communist countries. The M21 is a rifle that is extremely accurate and used by our best marksmen. Most importantly, the M21 is based on the M-14 platform. The M-14 is based on the M-1 Garand platform. The M-1 Garand is one of the greatest weapons of war ever created. When asking myself which I like best, I answer the question: Would I rather have a snipers rifle created from an M-1 Garand, or a snipers rifle created from an AK-47 with a long barrel. For me, the answer has to be the M-21

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Pronsias Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NV Posts: 69	Bravo, where are you finding SVDs for under $500. They're usually 4 figures. The PSL ("Romak") shown above can dip below $500, but although it superficially resembles the SVD, it is a different rifle and the parts are not interchangeable. As to the OP, it's hard to say. Are "real" M21's easy to find even, or are they all just civilian modded M-14/M1As? I'd slightly lean towards the M21, but I'd want to pick up an SVD too if I had the money.

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USAF_462/2W1X1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Currently Clovis, NM but Goldsboro, NC bound! Posts: 327 Blog Entries: 6	M21 Hands down Several reasons for this actually: Amercian made and as Bravo pointed out, based on the M1 Garand design. American made rifles have, for over a century and a half, been some of the best on the market. I was thinking in terms of actual U.S.G.I. rifles, starting with the M1855 Springfield rifled-musket. If you want to take into account the locally made "Kentucky Rifles" that some backwoodsmen and frontiersmen brought to bear on the Brits during the Revolution, then so be it. The SVD, while retaining its Kalishnikov breathren-like looks, IS a totally seperate weapon, but still made, IMHO, to sub-par standards. Mass produced, in the simplest way possible for the non-professional soldier to use after a rudimentary introduction. While we as Americans, generally pride ourselves on our marksmenship, and as such generally know our weapons pretty damned well, inside and out. On top of all these reasons, the M21 can be easily modded to your own specs with a plethra of aftermarket and USGI stocks, scopes, barrels, sights, bipods, and even magazines. Plus, with the ever venerable 7.62 NATO round, you really can't go wrong. So in a true SHTF scenario, you would be more likely to find 7.62 NATO rounds than you would 7.62x54r rounds. __________________ "Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway." ~ John Wayne

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07-20-2008, 08:31 AM	#20
Bravo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Maine, USA Posts: 1,897	Yeah, the SVD does have a longer barrel. But at that point, I don't think the short barrel of the M-21 is hurting accuracy at all. I think the higher quality barrel probably makes up for and potential loss in accuracy. The result is a rifle that is equally as accurate (if not more accurate) than the SVD, but is shorter/more compact, making it easier to carry in combat situations.