Hi Point carbines - Page 2

NRAEric · 08-11-2005, 02:20 PM

Im just looking for something I can have some fun with at around 50 yards or a little less.

myarmor · 08-11-2005, 04:20 PM

Well an AK or SKS would be more than efficient for what you are looking for, and you always have the option of shooting a little farther if you like.
Pistols are a whole different ballgame. Have you ever considered buying a NEF Handi rifle or a Rossi chambered in 357 or 44Mag?-yes I said it again :gangster:
Awesome for the range you are talking about. And brand new at Wally world for around $170- $200, cheaper if you find one used. But for the same amount you can get a nice SKS too, or a couple Mosin Nagants-and be able to shoot even farther...Ahh choices.

NRAEric · 08-11-2005, 05:15 PM

I'm also looking at possibly a marlin in .357 (I could use .38 specials in it right?)

myarmor · 08-11-2005, 05:31 PM

You got it.

Big Dog · 08-11-2005, 05:34 PM

Yep, the .38s work fine, though you will have to clean it well after shooting them. Just like shooting .22 shorts in a .22LR gun, the shorter .38 Spcl will leave a crud build-up in the chamber, making .357s harder to chamber.
My buddy has the EMF lever-action in .357Magnum, and it's a lot of fun at 25 and 50 yards. If you get into reloading, these calibers are among the cheapest and easiest to do.

SilverRun · 08-11-2005, 06:22 PM

The marlin carbine or the SKS would get my vote for your situation.

BattleRifleG3 · 08-11-2005, 10:37 PM

SKS is definitely a great fun gun. Will load faster with 10rd strippers than a hi-points 10rd detachable mags. Not good for home defense due to overpenetration. Good for national defense though.

Leverguns in 357/38 are also nice for fun, if you like leverguns.

myarmor · 08-12-2005, 12:34 AM

Well I have never been hit/nor do I want to be, with a 7.62x39 much less 10rounds. But I believe it would stop me in my tracks fast enough. Though I can't talk from expireance

BattleRifleG3 · 08-12-2005, 12:57 AM

Problem with HD is going through walls and striking innocent people. When its war and you're outdoors, that's less of an issue.

NRAEric · 08-12-2005, 06:44 PM

well a 7.62x39 is a lot like a 30-30 ballistically. And I held a Kel Tec today and im definaltely not buying one(The stock is too short and it feels uncomfortable). I held a hi point carbine and it felt perfect in my hands....Thats something to pick up. Besides the ammo doesnt cost an arm and a leg and it is fairly accurate too. I think I'm just going to buy the hi point.

NRAEric · 08-12-2005, 06:45 PM

And yes JOE you can laugh (We know your Tom Deeb)

SPOCAHP ANAR · 08-12-2005, 06:48 PM

Eric consider this; High points have plastic parts, not composite, not hardened carbon material, but PLASTIC. They have a very low resale. I have a friend that went to sale it to a pawn shop and they only were going to give him $20 for it. The trigger was plastic and would wiggle ,ore than 1/8" of an inch.

For the $150 or more I have seen them I would seriously reconsider.

NRAEric · 08-12-2005, 08:08 PM

SPOCAHP ANAR consider this; They have a FULL LIFETIME WARRANTY!!!!! If something breaks on it then send it back or order the part. And If Hi Point closes then whats $150 lost. Besides if Hi Point did close then their gun values would probably increase (Much like Intratecs).

BattleRifleG3 · 08-12-2005, 08:55 PM

Never shot one, but if you got a chance to shoot an SKS, you'd probably reconsider.

SPOCAHP ANAR · 08-12-2005, 09:22 PM

Eric there is alot to be said about a LIFETIME WARRANTY; however, a good warranty is no substitute for quality or reliability. They probably are fine guns but there is something about them that just irks me.

But hey I am a STAR nut but a friend says he wouldn't own one because the QC isn't as good. But then again he's a cop.....

If you want one then I would get one as a toy, something to play with; not as a defense or hunting weapon.

silentknight · 08-12-2005, 11:24 PM

[quote=SPOCAHP ANAR]Eric there is alot to be said about a LIFETIME WARRANTY; however, a good warranty is no substitute for quality or reliability.QUOTE]
Yup, I'd rather have a gun with a limited warranty and not have to need it, than to have a gun with a full warranty and have it in for repairs every couple months

NRAEric · 08-13-2005, 04:40 PM

But if their guns are backed with that kind of warranty then thats saying something to me. It says that you probably won't have a problem.

Big Dog · 08-13-2005, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NRAEric

But if their guns are backed with that kind of warranty then thats saying something to me. It says that you probably won't have a problem.

I've had my Hi-Point Carbine about two years now, and have fired a few hundred rounds thru it, of Winny, Remmy, Federal and Wolf ammo. Zero problems. Accurate, reliable - yeah, Id' trust it.
It does well with a 4X scope and a Red Dot sight.
All it needs is a hi-cap magazine.

NRAEric · 08-14-2005, 08:30 AM

They sell 15 round magazines that are new production. Pro Mag makes them. They stick out of the bottom much like the UZI magazines and looks like something I could pick up out of state.

myarmor · 08-14-2005, 01:47 PM

I have to say though, the Kel Tec does look a lot better than the High Point. Man that thing in ugly.

08-11-2005, 05:34 PM	#25
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 9,844	Yep, the .38s work fine, though you will have to clean it well after shooting them. Just like shooting .22 shorts in a .22LR gun, the shorter .38 Spcl will leave a crud build-up in the chamber, making .357s harder to chamber. My buddy has the EMF lever-action in .357Magnum, and it's a lot of fun at 25 and 50 yards. If you get into reloading, these calibers are among the cheapest and easiest to do. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

08-11-2005, 10:37 PM	#27
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401	SKS is definitely a great fun gun. Will load faster with 10rd strippers than a hi-points 10rd detachable mags. Not good for home defense due to overpenetration. Good for national defense though. Leverguns in 357/38 are also nice for fun, if you like leverguns. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

08-12-2005, 12:57 AM	#29
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401	Problem with HD is going through walls and striking innocent people. When its war and you're outdoors, that's less of an issue. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

08-12-2005, 06:48 PM	#32
SPOCAHP ANAR Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SC-upstate Posts: 4,015	Eric consider this; High points have plastic parts, not composite, not hardened carbon material, but PLASTIC. They have a very low resale. I have a friend that went to sale it to a pawn shop and they only were going to give him $20 for it. The trigger was plastic and would wiggle ,ore than 1/8" of an inch. For the $150 or more I have seen them I would seriously reconsider. __________________ Spocrest Out!..........

08-12-2005, 08:55 PM	#34
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401	Never shot one, but if you got a chance to shoot an SKS, you'd probably reconsider. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

08-11-2005, 02:20 PM	#21
NRAEric Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 42	Im just looking for something I can have some fun with at around 50 yards or a little less.

08-11-2005, 04:20 PM	#22
myarmor Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Southwest ,VA Posts: 1,147	Well an AK or SKS would be more than efficient for what you are looking for, and you always have the option of shooting a little farther if you like. Pistols are a whole different ballgame. Have you ever considered buying a NEF Handi rifle or a Rossi chambered in 357 or 44Mag?-yes I said it again :gangster: Awesome for the range you are talking about. And brand new at Wally world for around $170- $200, cheaper if you find one used. But for the same amount you can get a nice SKS too, or a couple Mosin Nagants-and be able to shoot even farther...Ahh choices.

08-11-2005, 05:15 PM	#23
NRAEric Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 42	I'm also looking at possibly a marlin in .357 (I could use .38 specials in it right?)

08-11-2005, 05:31 PM	#24
myarmor Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Southwest ,VA Posts: 1,147	You got it.

08-11-2005, 06:22 PM	#26
SilverRun Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: AL Posts: 1,652	The marlin carbine or the SKS would get my vote for your situation.

08-12-2005, 12:34 AM	#28
myarmor Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Southwest ,VA Posts: 1,147	Well I have never been hit/nor do I want to be, with a 7.62x39 much less 10rounds. But I believe it would stop me in my tracks fast enough. Though I can't talk from expireance

08-12-2005, 06:44 PM	#30
NRAEric Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 42	well a 7.62x39 is a lot like a 30-30 ballistically. And I held a Kel Tec today and im definaltely not buying one(The stock is too short and it feels uncomfortable). I held a hi point carbine and it felt perfect in my hands....Thats something to pick up. Besides the ammo doesnt cost an arm and a leg and it is fairly accurate too. I think I'm just going to buy the hi point.

08-12-2005, 06:45 PM	#31
NRAEric Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 42	And yes JOE you can laugh (We know your Tom Deeb)

08-12-2005, 08:08 PM	#33
NRAEric Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 42	SPOCAHP ANAR consider this; They have a FULL LIFETIME WARRANTY!!!!! If something breaks on it then send it back or order the part. And If Hi Point closes then whats $150 lost. Besides if Hi Point did close then their gun values would probably increase (Much like Intratecs).

08-12-2005, 09:22 PM	#35
SPOCAHP ANAR Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SC-upstate Posts: 4,015	Eric there is alot to be said about a LIFETIME WARRANTY; however, a good warranty is no substitute for quality or reliability. They probably are fine guns but there is something about them that just irks me. But hey I am a STAR nut but a friend says he wouldn't own one because the QC isn't as good. But then again he's a cop..... If you want one then I would get one as a toy, something to play with; not as a defense or hunting weapon. __________________ Spocrest Out!..........

08-12-2005, 11:24 PM	#36
silentknight Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,125	[quote=SPOCAHP ANAR]Eric there is alot to be said about a LIFETIME WARRANTY; however, a good warranty is no substitute for quality or reliability.QUOTE] Yup, I'd rather have a gun with a limited warranty and not have to need it, than to have a gun with a full warranty and have it in for repairs every couple months __________________ Sic Vis Pacem Parabellum

08-13-2005, 04:40 PM	#37
NRAEric Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 42	But if their guns are backed with that kind of warranty then thats saying something to me. It says that you probably won't have a problem.

08-14-2005, 08:30 AM	#39
NRAEric Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 42	They sell 15 round magazines that are new production. Pro Mag makes them. They stick out of the bottom much like the UZI magazines and looks like something I could pick up out of state.

08-14-2005, 01:47 PM	#40
myarmor Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Southwest ,VA Posts: 1,147	I have to say though, the Kel Tec does look a lot better than the High Point. Man that thing in ugly.

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