.357mag

raccoon29 · 10-25-2005, 12:50 AM

Why isn't there a carbine in .357mag? And are there any conversions?

myarmor · 10-25-2005, 12:54 AM

There are plenty lever action rifles as well as single shot rifles chambered in 357. NEF/H&R and Rossi made them for awhile. Marlin makes lever action 357's, thats just a couple. I am sure there are more, I just can't think of them at the moment.

raccoon29 · 10-25-2005, 12:57 AM

Oops, i should have mentioned i wanted a semi-auto.

BattleRifleG3 · 10-25-2005, 01:01 AM

An AK has a similar rim size to the 357. Question is though what would you use it for? I'm the biggest fan of wacky caliber conversions and stuff that hasn't been done before, but I have to admit that I'm having a hard time coming up with good reasons for a company to invest in making a 357 Rem Mag semi-auto.

44 Rem Mag, which is much better accepted for deer hunting, has a semi-auto made by Ruger.

Uncle Red · 10-25-2005, 01:11 AM

Many moons ago I knew a guy in Houston that was working on converting M1 carbines to .357, but he never could get all the bugs worked out. A few years later I heard he had died, and his gun hatin' wife took ALL his guns to the police to have them destroyed. IMI used to offer the Timberwolf. A pump action carbine in .357/.38, that I believe has since been discontinued. Now-a-days, about the only offerings are in lever actions from Marlin, and I think Winchester.

-UR

myarmor · 10-25-2005, 01:20 AM

Don't get me wrong-the 357 is an awesome cartridge, and is very proven. I am a big fan of it, be it revolver or rifle. But for a semi-auto I personally would just assume have a 7.62x39. It was designed with that in mind. Not to say that it wouldn't be cool, but it's nice to have "just a little more" in the Russian round.
My 2 cents for what it's worth.

DANA · 10-25-2005, 05:40 AM

Le Mag made M1 Carbine conversions in .357. I have a 45 Win Mag and a 50AE by Le Mag

DANA

10-25-2005, 06:01 AM

Marlin makes a .357 magnum lever action :guitar:

Johnny_Revolver · 10-25-2005, 06:39 AM

Not an auto I know, but dont Rossi make a pump .357 mag?

Big Dog · 10-25-2005, 07:26 AM

IMO, Ruger is missing a golden opportunity in not offering a .357 Magnum version of the new Deerstalker (or whatever the new .44 Carbine is called). Lot's of guys would like it. I would.
I'd also like something like an M1 Carbine conversion using the .357 Desert Eagle magazines.
My .357 Mag handloads (158 grain soft-point) clock at 2000FPS in a Rossi Puma 18 inch lever carbine - plenty of grunt for a close-up deer!

Bookman · 10-25-2005, 06:06 PM

It is tough to make a semi-auto work with a rimmed cartridge. Ruger did it with his carbine, but not every gun manufacturer has a Bill Ruger on the payroll.

IMO the Marlin .357 lever is a great gun. Loads of fun.

NRAEric · 10-27-2005, 07:08 PM

I wish someone would make a .357 semi auto. That would be a fun gun to shoot.

BattleRifleG3 · 10-27-2005, 07:50 PM

I've thought of it many times. Might do it some day.

Apollyon67 · 10-27-2005, 09:34 PM

I think the idea of a pistol cartrige in a carbine has been around for a long time. Cowboys and adventurers wanted to be able to carry one kind of round for either firearm. I would love to have a .357 auto handgun and auto carbine. I know I can do it with the Baby Eagle, and I am just waiting for the Ruger .357 auto to come out.

BattleRifleG3 · 10-27-2005, 11:30 PM

I don't think a Ruger 357 Auto is going to happen, unless you know otherwise. And the 357 Rem Mag isn't in the Baby Eagle, but the full size Desert Eagle.

Apollyon67 · 10-30-2005, 09:10 PM

Dang, I will keep hoping. And thank you for the correction on the Baby vs the regular Eagle. I don't know what I was thinkin'. Hey BRG, How about rebarreling an Eagle with a 16"bbl and a folding stock?!?! How soon can you make one for me? LOL

BigJake · 11-10-2005, 01:56 AM

Here is something, Now don't get me wrong, I believe in 357 mag. over the 357 Sig. Hands down, but Mech tech offers a Glock conversion for the Glock 22 40 cal. and I think one for 357 Sig.

Another thing, HELLO MAGAZINE DEVELOPERS, The !!!-ault weapon ban is over, Why Is there no High Capacity Mags for the Ruger 44. Deerslayer. If they made bigger mags, I would own 8 of the dang guns. (and would be broke, but it would be worth it!)

At least in the older version of the Ruger 44 auto you could hold over 4 rounds in it. It loaded up like a shotgun. I always thought that was a cool setup too.

10-25-2005, 12:50 AM	#1
raccoon29 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 52	.357mag Why isn't there a carbine in .357mag? And are there any conversions?

10-25-2005, 01:01 AM	#4
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,397 Images: 13	An AK has a similar rim size to the 357. Question is though what would you use it for? I'm the biggest fan of wacky caliber conversions and stuff that hasn't been done before, but I have to admit that I'm having a hard time coming up with good reasons for a company to invest in making a 357 Rem Mag semi-auto. 44 Rem Mag, which is much better accepted for deer hunting, has a semi-auto made by Ruger. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

10-25-2005, 01:11 AM	#5
Uncle Red Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 547	Many moons ago I knew a guy in Houston that was working on converting M1 carbines to .357, but he never could get all the bugs worked out. A few years later I heard he had died, and his gun hatin' wife took ALL his guns to the police to have them destroyed. IMI used to offer the Timberwolf. A pump action carbine in .357/.38, that I believe has since been discontinued. Now-a-days, about the only offerings are in lever actions from Marlin, and I think Winchester. -UR __________________ "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed"--Amendment II, Bill of Rights "He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."--Thomas Paine "He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one." - Jesus, Luke 22:36

10-25-2005, 07:26 AM	#10
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 9,463	IMO, Ruger is missing a golden opportunity in not offering a .357 Magnum version of the new Deerstalker (or whatever the new .44 Carbine is called). Lot's of guys would like it. I would. I'd also like something like an M1 Carbine conversion using the .357 Desert Eagle magazines. My .357 Mag handloads (158 grain soft-point) clock at 2000FPS in a Rossi Puma 18 inch lever carbine - plenty of grunt for a close-up deer! __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

10-27-2005, 07:50 PM	#13
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,397 Images: 13	I've thought of it many times. Might do it some day. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

10-25-2005, 12:54 AM	#2
myarmor Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Southwest ,VA Posts: 1,147	There are plenty lever action rifles as well as single shot rifles chambered in 357. NEF/H&R and Rossi made them for awhile. Marlin makes lever action 357's, thats just a couple. I am sure there are more, I just can't think of them at the moment.

10-25-2005, 12:57 AM	#3
raccoon29 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 52	Oops, i should have mentioned i wanted a semi-auto.

10-25-2005, 01:20 AM	#6
myarmor Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Southwest ,VA Posts: 1,147	Don't get me wrong-the 357 is an awesome cartridge, and is very proven. I am a big fan of it, be it revolver or rifle. But for a semi-auto I personally would just assume have a 7.62x39. It was designed with that in mind. Not to say that it wouldn't be cool, but it's nice to have "just a little more" in the Russian round. My 2 cents for what it's worth.

10-25-2005, 05:40 AM	#7
DANA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: WAITSFIELD VERMONT Posts: 1,562	Le Mag made M1 Carbine conversions in .357. I have a 45 Win Mag and a 50AE by Le Mag DANA

10-25-2005, 06:01 AM	#8
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	Marlin makes a .357 magnum lever action :guitar:

10-25-2005, 06:39 AM	#9
Johnny_Revolver Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 1,130 Blog Entries: 4	Not an auto I know, but dont Rossi make a pump .357 mag?

10-25-2005, 06:06 PM	#11
Bookman Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: 10 paces south of Canada Posts: 726	It is tough to make a semi-auto work with a rimmed cartridge. Ruger did it with his carbine, but not every gun manufacturer has a Bill Ruger on the payroll. IMO the Marlin .357 lever is a great gun. Loads of fun.

10-27-2005, 07:08 PM	#12
NRAEric Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 42	I wish someone would make a .357 semi auto. That would be a fun gun to shoot.

10-27-2005, 09:34 PM	#14
Apollyon67 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Southern Maryland Posts: 2,189 Images: 17	I think the idea of a pistol cartrige in a carbine has been around for a long time. Cowboys and adventurers wanted to be able to carry one kind of round for either firearm. I would love to have a .357 auto handgun and auto carbine. I know I can do it with the Baby Eagle, and I am just waiting for the Ruger .357 auto to come out. __________________ "To err is human, to repent divine; to persist devilish." Ben Franklin

10-27-2005, 11:30 PM	#15
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,397 Images: 13	I don't think a Ruger 357 Auto is going to happen, unless you know otherwise. And the 357 Rem Mag isn't in the Baby Eagle, but the full size Desert Eagle. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

10-30-2005, 09:10 PM	#16
Apollyon67 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Southern Maryland Posts: 2,189 Images: 17	Dang, I will keep hoping. And thank you for the correction on the Baby vs the regular Eagle. I don't know what I was thinkin'. Hey BRG, How about rebarreling an Eagle with a 16"bbl and a folding stock?!?! How soon can you make one for me? LOL __________________ "To err is human, to repent divine; to persist devilish." Ben Franklin

11-10-2005, 01:56 AM	#17
BigJake Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Posts: 184	Here is something, Now don't get me wrong, I believe in 357 mag. over the 357 Sig. Hands down, but Mech tech offers a Glock conversion for the Glock 22 40 cal. and I think one for 357 Sig. Another thing, HELLO MAGAZINE DEVELOPERS, The !!!-ault weapon ban is over, Why Is there no High Capacity Mags for the Ruger 44. Deerslayer. If they made bigger mags, I would own 8 of the dang guns. (and would be broke, but it would be worth it!) At least in the older version of the Ruger 44 auto you could hold over 4 rounds in it. It loaded up like a shotgun. I always thought that was a cool setup too. __________________ Yo Ho Ho an-a bottle a Brass Monkey...

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