What's the best pistol carbine you have shot?

Roy Collins · 03-17-2006, 01:03 AM

I have shot a few:
Thompson .45
Marlin Camp carbine .45
Uzi 9mm
Micro uzi 9mm
Special weapons Sw 45
Hi point 9mm

Out of these I have to say the following:

Best all around: SW 45 special weapons. Accurate, decent weight, reliable
Reliabilty: Thompson hands down
Worst: Micro uzi never could get more than 4 bullets in a row without jamming.

The camp carbine was ok but I am left handed and that is not a good rifle for a left handed person.

The Hi point surprised me. Better than I thought it would be.

Big Dog · 03-17-2006, 05:33 AM

For me, I've shot:
Highpoint 995 (9mmP)
Marlin Camp 45 (.45ACP)
Ruger PC9 (9mmP)
EMF M1892 lever-action (.38Spcl/.357MAgnum)
Beretta Storm (9mmP)
Cobray MAC-11 Semiauto (9mmP)

Best overall was the EMF lever gun. Deadly accurate, smooth action.
Highpoint is good and reliable, fairly accurate.
Marlin and Ruger were okay, kind of sedate and 'old fashioned'.
Beretta is nice, but way over-priced.
Cobray had uncomfortable grip, lots of trigger slap, wasn't accurate.

iflylow74 · 03-17-2006, 08:14 AM

I had a Ruger 9mm carbine and I loved it! It was built like a tank. If you ran out of ammo, you could just club someone with it. It made an awsome beside the bed gun.

Beer Forever · 03-17-2006, 09:20 AM

50 Cal Desert Eagle

DANA · 03-17-2006, 01:02 PM

My M1 Carbine in 45 Win Mag.

DANA

BattleRifleG3 · 03-17-2006, 06:12 PM

Having fired a Ruger PC9, a Marlin Camp 45, and a Marlin 1894 in 44 Rem Mag, I have to say that the Ruger was the nicest, while the Marlin the most practical, well, depending. The Ruger would be a good choice for home defense but the Marlin would be better for hunting. I guess considering most of the uses for pistol caliber carbines, the Ruger's a better idea, though I really wish they came in 45.

Mooseman684 · 03-17-2006, 09:14 PM

I have fire way too many to list but the best is The HK SP89 the semi version of the MP5K Subgun! Next would be a silenced UZI, followed by a Mac 10 !
Rich

Rave · 03-18-2006, 12:26 PM

Had and fired a few.
Marlin camp-9 shot ok,booger to clean,some accessories.
Feather AT-9 shot well,but after a while the extracter flew out,easy to re-install,but not for me,new ones have better extracter,lots of accessories,easy to clean.
Cobray with and with out H&K top with sights,fairly accurite,again extrater problems,new ones claim to have better extracter,easy to clean.
Ruger PC-9,like a tank,heavy but accurite and reliable,no accessories,hard to clean.
Baretta Storm9,accurite,light and easy to handle like a real subgun,reliable and easy to clean,my favorite so far.:right:

dave375hh · 03-19-2006, 08:55 AM

AR15 with an Olympic Arms .45acp upper. Other than a couple balky mags(hard to load) It was the most fun you could have with your clothes on. We went through 500+ rounds on three different outings. The owner was a USMC Embassy guard and I was babysitting some of his stuff while he was out of the country for 15 months. I wanted to get myself a copy of his but haven't got it done yet.

7mmag6 · 03-19-2006, 09:36 AM

thompson

BattleRifleG3 · 03-20-2006, 10:22 PM

The PC9 with its basic one piece stock and minimal accessories seems a good home defense gun to me.

Roy Collins · 03-22-2006, 09:44 PM

Anyone ever had an experience with a greasegun?

Big Dog · 03-23-2006, 05:50 PM

My experience is that converted subguns (to semi-auto only) make poor carbines in general. Too heavy, poor sights, poor comfort and ergonomics.

For instance, a Thompson weighs in around 12 pounds, compared to the SKS at 8 pounds. Which would you rather hump in the bush . . . ?

Rave · 12-01-2006, 08:31 AM

My new favorite is the Uzi carbine s/a with the wood stock,still have the folding stock,easy to change.

Otter · 12-02-2006, 05:49 PM

I had a Marlin Camp Carbine .45, it was okay but I had to modify the Magazine bolt hold open so I could apply upward pressure from the left side to lock open the bolt, because I didn't like the silly assed hold open by pushing in on the charging handle. I still don't understand why people insist on putting the charging handle on the right side of a right handed gun.

Rave · 12-06-2006, 08:10 PM

It seems that a weapon with a pistol grip should have the lever on the left so as to keep a grip on the pistol grip,a weapon,rifle,may be held by the fore grip with the left hand and the lever might be better on the right side?

NCOS only yell · 12-06-2006, 08:37 PM

Yeah the shansi broomhandle .45 cal acp for me (great ideas get better by an asian remaking it and taking all the glory

) yeah right hand gun with right hand charging level doesn't so so good.

Rave · 12-07-2006, 08:56 AM

Along that broomhandle line,(I always thought that would be cool with a stock),I had a Chinese contract wood stock and the matching Canadian Inglis Browning Hi-power 9mm pistol,a real blast to shoot,finally sold it for a 500% profit.

okami515 · 12-31-2006, 09:38 AM

I have fired and own quite a few actually. most are lever guns, puma m92's in .357, .44, .45,.454,and .480. Also a keltec p2000 in .40s&w. All are a lot of fun to play with especially if you have a handgun in that cal. and don't want to take a bunch of different ammo to play with.

Dale · 12-31-2006, 01:02 PM

Pc40.

03-17-2006, 01:03 AM	#1
Roy Collins Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Louisville Kentucky. Posts: 306	What's the best pistol carbine you have shot? I have shot a few: Thompson .45 Marlin Camp carbine .45 Uzi 9mm Micro uzi 9mm Special weapons Sw 45 Hi point 9mm Out of these I have to say the following: Best all around: SW 45 special weapons. Accurate, decent weight, reliable Reliabilty: Thompson hands down Worst: Micro uzi never could get more than 4 bullets in a row without jamming. The camp carbine was ok but I am left handed and that is not a good rifle for a left handed person. The Hi point surprised me. Better than I thought it would be.

03-17-2006, 05:33 AM	#2
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 9,463	For me, I've shot: Highpoint 995 (9mmP) Marlin Camp 45 (.45ACP) Ruger PC9 (9mmP) EMF M1892 lever-action (.38Spcl/.357MAgnum) Beretta Storm (9mmP) Cobray MAC-11 Semiauto (9mmP) Best overall was the EMF lever gun. Deadly accurate, smooth action. Highpoint is good and reliable, fairly accurate. Marlin and Ruger were okay, kind of sedate and 'old fashioned'. Beretta is nice, but way over-priced. Cobray had uncomfortable grip, lots of trigger slap, wasn't accurate. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

03-17-2006, 08:14 AM	#3
iflylow74 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Arkansas Posts: 607	I had a Ruger 9mm carbine and I loved it! It was built like a tank. If you ran out of ammo, you could just club someone with it. It made an awsome beside the bed gun. __________________ ".....keep a deadeye son"-My Pappaw,my hero. 1/12/19 - 6/17/07. I miss you. .

03-17-2006, 09:20 AM	#4
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,580	50 Cal Desert Eagle __________________ Paramedic sks forever

03-17-2006, 06:12 PM	#6
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,397 Images: 13	Having fired a Ruger PC9, a Marlin Camp 45, and a Marlin 1894 in 44 Rem Mag, I have to say that the Ruger was the nicest, while the Marlin the most practical, well, depending. The Ruger would be a good choice for home defense but the Marlin would be better for hunting. I guess considering most of the uses for pistol caliber carbines, the Ruger's a better idea, though I really wish they came in 45. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

03-17-2006, 01:02 PM	#5
DANA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: WAITSFIELD VERMONT Posts: 1,562	My M1 Carbine in 45 Win Mag. DANA

03-17-2006, 09:14 PM	#7
Mooseman684 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 8,192 Images: 2	I have fire way too many to list but the best is The HK SP89 the semi version of the MP5K Subgun! Next would be a silenced UZI, followed by a Mac 10 ! Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

03-18-2006, 12:26 PM	#8
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 6,429	Had and fired a few. Marlin camp-9 shot ok,booger to clean,some accessories. Feather AT-9 shot well,but after a while the extracter flew out,easy to re-install,but not for me,new ones have better extracter,lots of accessories,easy to clean. Cobray with and with out H&K top with sights,fairly accurite,again extrater problems,new ones claim to have better extracter,easy to clean. Ruger PC-9,like a tank,heavy but accurite and reliable,no accessories,hard to clean. Baretta Storm9,accurite,light and easy to handle like a real subgun,reliable and easy to clean,my favorite so far.:right: __________________ Don't worry,be happy! 01-20-08

03-19-2006, 08:55 AM	#9
dave375hh Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 587	AR15 with an Olympic Arms .45acp upper. Other than a couple balky mags(hard to load) It was the most fun you could have with your clothes on. We went through 500+ rounds on three different outings. The owner was a USMC Embassy guard and I was babysitting some of his stuff while he was out of the country for 15 months. I wanted to get myself a copy of his but haven't got it done yet. __________________ Dave 375 H&H

03-19-2006, 09:36 AM	#10
7mmag6 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 326 Images: 1	thompson

03-20-2006, 10:22 PM	#11
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,397 Images: 13	The PC9 with its basic one piece stock and minimal accessories seems a good home defense gun to me. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

03-22-2006, 09:44 PM	#12
Roy Collins Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Louisville Kentucky. Posts: 306	Anyone ever had an experience with a greasegun?

03-23-2006, 05:50 PM	#13
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 9,463	My experience is that converted subguns (to semi-auto only) make poor carbines in general. Too heavy, poor sights, poor comfort and ergonomics. For instance, a Thompson weighs in around 12 pounds, compared to the SKS at 8 pounds. Which would you rather hump in the bush . . . ? __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

12-01-2006, 08:31 AM	#14
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 6,429	My new favorite is the Uzi carbine s/a with the wood stock,still have the folding stock,easy to change. __________________ Don't worry,be happy! 01-20-08

12-02-2006, 05:49 PM	#15
Otter Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vermont Posts: 885 Images: 6	I had a Marlin Camp Carbine .45, it was okay but I had to modify the Magazine bolt hold open so I could apply upward pressure from the left side to lock open the bolt, because I didn't like the silly assed hold open by pushing in on the charging handle. I still don't understand why people insist on putting the charging handle on the right side of a right handed gun. __________________ Life is too important to be taken seriously.

12-31-2006, 01:02 PM	#20
Dale Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Too Dang Hot, Arizona Posts: 4,284	Pc40. __________________ "It confuses me how some people can vigorously go against the 2nd. Amendment and still call themselves patriotic"-me

12-06-2006, 08:10 PM	#16
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 6,429	It seems that a weapon with a pistol grip should have the lever on the left so as to keep a grip on the pistol grip,a weapon,rifle,may be held by the fore grip with the left hand and the lever might be better on the right side? __________________ Don't worry,be happy! 01-20-08

12-06-2006, 08:37 PM	#17
NCOS only yell Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3	My pistols Yeah the shansi broomhandle .45 cal acp for me (great ideas get better by an asian remaking it and taking all the glory ) yeah right hand gun with right hand charging level doesn't so so good. Last edited by NCOS only yell; 12-06-2006 at 08:49 PM. Reason: bah, why should ya care ;)

12-07-2006, 08:56 AM	#18
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 6,429	Along that broomhandle line,(I always thought that would be cool with a stock),I had a Chinese contract wood stock and the matching Canadian Inglis Browning Hi-power 9mm pistol,a real blast to shoot,finally sold it for a 500% profit. __________________ Don't worry,be happy! 01-20-08

12-31-2006, 09:38 AM	#19
okami515 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 133	I have fired and own quite a few actually. most are lever guns, puma m92's in .357, .44, .45,.454,and .480. Also a keltec p2000 in .40s&w. All are a lot of fun to play with especially if you have a handgun in that cal. and don't want to take a bunch of different ammo to play with.

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