Carbine in 9mm

[BobC]

I've been considering a carbine in 9mm. I'm looking at the Hi-Point, the Kel-Tec S2000, and the Beretta CX4 Storm. I realize they vary in price substantially. I like the fact that the Kel-Tec can use Glock magazines but that is not crucial. What are your recommendations with respect to these guns...or do you think there is something better out there. My criteria is reliability, accuracy, and of course cost effectiveness.

Bob

[knightRider]

berretta is great and high quialty . keltec is a 2nd place to me , if $$$ is a issuie go with the highpoint

[A-10]

Highpoint is a good gun for the money, but has a couple querks. If money allow, go with the CX4. I havn't heard many good things about the kel tec. It has plastic "iron sights" it can't fold with any optics on it, and I understand that the ergonomics are poor.

By the way, welcome to the forum!

[BobC]

Thanks for the replies. I'm kind of leaning towards the Beretta at this point. I haven't held or shot any of them so I still have some research to do.

Bob

[Big Dog]

Bob, I have handled and shot all three, and I own the High-Point.
The High-point is inexpensive, has some accessories available including a Beretta-style new stock. The magazine capacity is it's main flaw.
The Beretta Storm is by far the best! But it is pricey too. If the bank account allows, it's my choice.

The Kel-Tec Sub2000 is an utter abomination, IMHO. My buddy has one - but then he bought the High-Point .40 cal Carbine and shoots it much more often. He's very short, and the Sub2000 is far too short stocked even for him. I can barely hold it. Sights are garbage, and easily broken. Don't ask how I know . . .
I'd steer clear of it.

[Beer Forever]

I saw the Kel-Tec, I don't know what model it was, but it folded in half and took Glock mags. Wasn't that bad, but I want a Styre.

[Rave]

For mr it's the Uzi semi auto in 9mm,but they can be switched to .45,.41a&e,.22.
Come with folding or wood stock,I have both.
Can be field strippeed for cleaning with no tools in less than a minuit.
And the value keeps appreciating.

[Rave]

Oh yeah,another thing Uzi has that most don't,a grip safety much like the 1911 pistol.
The fed.,in all it's infinite wisdom,when it mandated thumbhole stocks by-passed that safety by keeping it depressed with that monstrosity of a stock thereby makeing the carbine less safe,but that's the gummint for ya'!

[Bravo]

I think I may buy a Cx4 and Px4 in 9mm in the future...they would probably compliment each other well.

[Rave]

Had a CX4,nice,good little carbine.Very accurite and reliable. Lots of goodies comeing out and the price is going down.

[bunky39]

Originally Posted by BobC

I've been considering a carbine in 9mm. I'm looking at the Hi-Point, the Kel-Tec S2000, and the Beretta CX4 Storm. I realize they vary in price substantially. I like the fact that the Kel-Tec can use Glock magazines but that is not crucial. What are your recommendations with respect to these guns...or do you think there is something better out there. My criteria is reliability, accuracy, and of course cost effectiveness.

Bob

dear bob
i am hoping that you know a lot more about it all than me. i have 9mm ruger carbine.
i am trying to get a pistol grip or folding stock and getting nowhere. need advise. sell get another carbine? tried 6 manufacturers getting nowhere.
thanks
stephen s
san diego ca
ps cannt get hi point here no way

[BattleRifleG3]

I don't believe any p-grip or folding stocks were ever made for the Ruger carbines. And now that they are out of production, I don't think there will be. But aggressive modification of a Mini-14 or 10-22 stock may be possible.

[bunky39]

Originally Posted by bunky39

dear bob
i am hoping that you know a lot more about it all than me. i have 9mm ruger carbine.
i am trying to get a pistol grip or folding stock and getting nowhere. need advise. sell get another carbine? tried 6 manufacturers getting nowhere.
thanks
stephen s
san diego ca
ps cannt get hi point here no way

addendum i invite anyone on the forum to respond
new to the system probably should not state the recipients name in the post, more friendly that way.
stephen s
san diego ca

[BattleRifleG3]

If a Hi-Point is illegal in CA, I suspect a pistol grip or folding stock will be as well, since the rifle is semi-auto and takes a detachable mag.

But on the bright side, your Ruger IS legal and IS functional in its current condition.

[bunky39]

Originally Posted by BattleRifleG3

If a Hi-Point is illegal in CA, I suspect a pistol grip or folding stock will be as well, since the rifle is semi-auto and takes a detachable mag.

But on the bright side, your Ruger IS legal and IS functional in its current condition.

hi point is not illegal in california, just really really hard to get.
i read the post on modification of of mini 14.
would like more info.
and yes this is a good weapon good range performance at 25 yards.
stephen s
san diego ca

Originally Posted by bunky39

hi point is not illegal in california, just really really hard to get.
i read the post on modification of of mini 14.
would like more info.
and yes this is a good weapon good range performance at 25 yards.
stephen s
san diego ca

addendum
hi point is not illegal per my gun shop el cajon gun exchange just real hard to get.
as to pistol grips and folding stock on semi automatics, i dont know bout that. but i would like very much to know as it is very much my desire to obey the law. pistol grip and folding stock are just fine for mossberg shotgun as long as it stays in the home. again i go to my local gun shop to get informed b4 i do anything. but as to my ruger i could use the extra input thanks.

stephen s
san diego ca

[BattleRifleG3]

I bet your Mossberg shotgun is pump action. Most folding stock/p-grip restrictions apply to semi-autos, and usually only if they take a detachable magazine. I bet your Mossberg doesn't do that either.

[bunky39]

Originally Posted by BattleRifleG3

I bet your Mossberg shotgun is pump action. Most folding stock/p-grip restrictions apply to semi-autos, and usually only if they take a detachable magazine. I bet your Mossberg doesn't do that either.

thank you dear friends for helping open my eyes to the law in the state which i live. i just purchased the book how to own a gun and stay out of jail by john machtinger at the insistence of my local gun dealer, very enlightening. pg 140 talks about assault weapons, inc rifles shotguns and pistols that have been modified in some way in which they suddenly are defined by the state as having been converted to an assault weapon. the law is if you did that got to register it as an assault weapon in 90 days if not, you have committed a crime.
pretty carefully read this as to the mossberg.
i think i better get the screw driver out and get to work asap.
that was good to know.
also if you have a clip that holds more than 10 rounds for a semi automatice pistol, this makes it an assault weapon.
unless i am reading this stuff wrong, this is in fact california gun law.
wow.
stephen s
san diego ca

Originally Posted by BattleRifleG3

I bet your Mossberg shotgun is pump action. Most folding stock/p-grip restrictions apply to semi-autos, and usually only if they take a detachable magazine. I bet your Mossberg doesn't do that either.

you are absolutely right had to read page 141 of how to own a gun and stay out of jail, 5 times to get it.
i can relax now.
3 elements have to be present to be considered an assault weapon.
a. must be semiautomatic shotgun.
b. must have telescope fold stock
c. must have pistol grip below.
i pass my mossberg 500a is not semi automatic, its pump.
that is ok i am getting better at assembling and reassembling.
stephen s
san diego ca