she would compare Osama Bin Laden to the Founding Fathers

Doglips · 03-06-2003, 06:31 AM

March 05, 2003

How Does The Democratic Party Keep Producing People Like This?: You know, I just do not understand how a United States Congresswoman can be so incredibly ignorant that she would compare Osama Bin Laden to the Founding Fathers. It just boggles the mind that U.S. Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D., Toledo) said something like this...

"When America "cast off monarchical Britain" in 1776, it involved the help of many religious people who had fled repression in other countries, the 11-term Toledo congressman said. Among the nontraditional American revolutionaries were the Green Mountain Boys, a patriot militia organized in 1770 in Bennington, Vt., to confront British forces, she said.

"One could say that Osama bin Laden and these non-nation-state fighters with religious purpose are very similar to those kind of atypical revolutionaries that helped to cast off the British crown," Miss Kaptur said."

Yes, you read that correctly. She is saying that Osama Bin Laden is "very similar" to people who fought to free our country from the British -- people like George Washington, John Adams, James Madison, Ben Franklin, John Hancock, Patrick Henry, John Paul Jones & Thomas Jefferson.

That is a repulsive and sickening statement for anyone to make and the fact that a congresswoman would say it is reprehensible. If you want to know why so many people don't believe the Democrats can be trusted to defend our country, you only have to look at statements just like this one and the anemic reactions to them by other Democrats to see exactly why.

John Hawkins | 11:59 PM | Comments (5) | TrackBack (0)

grizzly · 03-06-2003, 07:16 AM

He should be dead and buried....

:target:

NRAJOE · 03-06-2003, 07:17 AM

I LOATHE, DESPISE,DOWNRIGHT HATE!!! MARCY KAPTUR!!! Been voting against her liberal, lesbian arse for YEARS! These liberal idiots in Toledo keep voting her in.....GRRRRRRRRRRRR!

PAPA G · 03-06-2003, 09:18 AM

NRAJOE · 03-06-2003, 01:48 PM

Should you want to contact Kaptur for her treasonous remarks:

http://www.house.gov/kaptur/index.shtml

:assult: :nod:

Sniper[MI] · 03-06-2003, 06:24 PM

Howdy,

Here is the direct e mail addy so you do not have to wade through her sel;f serving ultra environmental PC wacko web site......

mailto: REP.KAPTUR@mail.house.gov

Now here is my email to the commie biatch!
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Hello,

I found I must take the time to respond to your comments compairing our Nations founding fathers to Osama Bin Laden reprehensible at best. How can you possibly twist the facts to arrive at viewpoint? It is pure fantasy on your part. The copmparison is not even remotely valid.

Our founding fathers did do exactly as you said they did. They escaped a system of government that persicuted them for their religious beliefs.

Osama Bin Laden is a polar opposite! He is not escapiong an opressive government, nor is he escaping a country frought with religious opression.

Bin Laden is a terrorist that would think nothing of having someone blow up a building (remember 911?) or a bus full of innocent citizens.

The founding fathers did not kill thousands of innocent people and then flee when that country came to attack.

I feel you need to re read a 3rd grade history book.

Also I took a moment to look over your web site. I have never seen a more self serving piece of socialist, eco nazi garbage. How do you look at yourself in the mirror each morning?

NRAJOE · 03-06-2003, 06:26 PM

Thanks Sniper...:right:

grizzly · 03-06-2003, 07:16 PM

You have got to be kidding...Your head must be soo far up your butt you will never see daylight...or smell the roses...With people like you in government it's no wonder that the terrorists were able to pull off the 9/11 attack...

Jeff Kitchens
Owner/Technical Services Manager
Grizzly Enterprises
grizzly@danville.net
217-304-4740

Calvin · 03-07-2003, 07:43 AM

I fired one off last night to her.

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Dear Ms. Kaptur,

I heard about the statement you made about the Founding Fathers of this great country, and the despicable comparison you made to Osama Bin Laden.
First, I will let you know that I demand a public apology for this statement. The comparison you made was totally outside the realm of reality. Our nation was founded by people (men AND women) who desired to free a nation of government extorsion and control. Osama is doing just the opposite. He controls people with murder, kidnappings, and extortion. Women aren't allowed to even speak in public, let alone have any freedoms you enjoy on a daily basis. How can you honestly believe he is of the same cloth as the Founding Fathers?
Secondly, you have a track record that is as unimpressive as can be. I am not sure how you managed to be re-elected, but am sure that this statement will probably help your opponents chances next election. You have been proven to vote for whatever benefits you, and you only. When it comes to issues that really affect your constituents, you have let them down consitently. You coddle criminals while punishing the innocent victims, and it's time for a change. In case you haven't noticed, the people of this great country have had it with incompetent people in charge, which is why the Republicans are at the helm. Or, haven't you figured out that the people you are supposed to serve have elected them?
Lastly, just let me tell you that this comment really shows your ignorance. If you were my representative, I'd say you were making treasonous remarks, at best, and demand that you be removed from office. I feel sorry for the people in your district who didn't vote for you. And, to the ones who did vote for you, I hope they don't have problems sleeping at night knowing they put a totally incompetent person in charge of voicing their opinion.

Sincerely,
Calvin Logsdon
wcl71067@aol.com

NRAJOE · 03-07-2003, 11:57 AM

Watched Fox36 news last night, she said everything was taken out of context and it's just like the Republicans to twist her words around....GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

PAPA G · 03-07-2003, 12:58 PM

these clowns make idiotic statements, then try to lie their way out!!! what are all the voters idiots to fall for this stuff??? but shes safe in her district, i doubt if she can piss off enough of them to lose the next round.

NRAJOE · 03-07-2003, 01:04 PM

She has alot of pull with the socialist auto workers in this area. Always crying that the Republicans are anti union and out to get the working man! When I worked at Jeep she was at my gate shaking hands. When I got off work at 4pm she was still there with the Union goons and tryed to shake my hand. I just looked at her hand and kept walking. I took alot of crap there for being a Republican and standing for my beliefs!

PAPA G · 03-07-2003, 01:25 PM

to get out the vote for the union backed candidates. i was not enthused at all. but know matter how much they talked up a candidate, i always voted for the pro-gun candidates.

missharpshooter · 03-07-2003, 06:52 PM

Good for you Clavin...great letter!!:nod:

NRAJOE · 03-07-2003, 08:23 PM

Yeah CLAVIN!

Calvin · 03-09-2003, 01:06 AM

Anytime, man! Anytime!! :right:

Dennis · 03-09-2003, 01:37 AM

You guys remember Washington state's Patti Murray?
She spoke in admiration for Osama Bin Laden claiming he built roads and daycare centers fot the afganistani people thats why they love him.
So, ya see, you aint the only one that has to endure wittless elected represenatives.
They really are that stupid

Stopper · 03-09-2003, 07:43 PM

Right on NRAJOE, fight them socialist bastisgges at every turn. Heard this pshyco was a bull dyke pinko commie. Good luck getting this beeatch out of office.

NRAJOE · 03-10-2003, 08:27 AM

The Republicans are rubbing their hands together hoping they can put someone up against her now and win! Of course when you have a high concentration of Dumocrats in one area, anything can happen! When they had that red/blue map of the nation (red was Bush, blue was gore) pactically the whole state of Ohio was red except for this county in northwest Ohio....I gotta move man!

PAPA G · 03-10-2003, 08:51 AM

heck half of OH-10 comes here any way during the summer!!!

03-06-2003, 06:31 AM	#1
Doglips Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cocoa Florida Posts: 9,082	she would compare Osama Bin Laden to the Founding Fathers March 05, 2003 How Does The Democratic Party Keep Producing People Like This?: You know, I just do not understand how a United States Congresswoman can be so incredibly ignorant that she would compare Osama Bin Laden to the Founding Fathers. It just boggles the mind that U.S. Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D., Toledo) said something like this... "When America "cast off monarchical Britain" in 1776, it involved the help of many religious people who had fled repression in other countries, the 11-term Toledo congressman said. Among the nontraditional American revolutionaries were the Green Mountain Boys, a patriot militia organized in 1770 in Bennington, Vt., to confront British forces, she said. "One could say that Osama bin Laden and these non-nation-state fighters with religious purpose are very similar to those kind of atypical revolutionaries that helped to cast off the British crown," Miss Kaptur said." Yes, you read that correctly. She is saying that Osama Bin Laden is "very similar" to people who fought to free our country from the British -- people like George Washington, John Adams, James Madison, Ben Franklin, John Hancock, Patrick Henry, John Paul Jones & Thomas Jefferson. That is a repulsive and sickening statement for anyone to make and the fact that a congresswoman would say it is reprehensible. If you want to know why so many people don't believe the Democrats can be trusted to defend our country, you only have to look at statements just like this one and the anemic reactions to them by other Democrats to see exactly why. John Hawkins \| 11:59 PM \| Comments (5) \| TrackBack (0)

03-06-2003, 07:16 AM	#2
grizzly Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: PDR of IL Posts: 654	Well I'll agree in one respect... He should be dead and buried.... :target: __________________ When white man found this land, Indians were running it. No Taxes... No Debt... Plenty Buffalo... Plenty beaver! Women did most of the work. Medicine Man free! Indian men hunted and fished all the time! White man dumb enough to think he could improve system like that. "The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that... it is their right and duty to be at all times armed." --Thomas Jefferson to John Cartwright, 1824.

03-06-2003, 07:17 AM	#3
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,882 Blog Entries: 1	I LOATHE, DESPISE,DOWNRIGHT HATE!!! MARCY KAPTUR!!! Been voting against her liberal, lesbian arse for YEARS! These liberal idiots in Toledo keep voting her in.....GRRRRRRRRRRRR! __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

03-06-2003, 09:18 AM	#4
PAPA G Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Somerset, Guntucky Posts: 9,607	I FEEL YOUR PAIN JOE

03-06-2003, 01:48 PM	#5
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,882 Blog Entries: 1	This is the kind of people I have to put up with in Toledo.... Should you want to contact Kaptur for her treasonous remarks: http://www.house.gov/kaptur/index.shtml :assult: :nod: __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

03-06-2003, 06:24 PM	#6
Sniper[MI] Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Future 51st state, "New Hope" Posts: 3,795	Here is my reply... Howdy, Here is the direct e mail addy so you do not have to wade through her sel;f serving ultra environmental PC wacko web site...... mailto: REP.KAPTUR@mail.house.gov Now here is my email to the commie biatch! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hello, I found I must take the time to respond to your comments compairing our Nations founding fathers to Osama Bin Laden reprehensible at best. How can you possibly twist the facts to arrive at viewpoint? It is pure fantasy on your part. The copmparison is not even remotely valid. Our founding fathers did do exactly as you said they did. They escaped a system of government that persicuted them for their religious beliefs. Osama Bin Laden is a polar opposite! He is not escapiong an opressive government, nor is he escaping a country frought with religious opression. Bin Laden is a terrorist that would think nothing of having someone blow up a building (remember 911?) or a bus full of innocent citizens. The founding fathers did not kill thousands of innocent people and then flee when that country came to attack. I feel you need to re read a 3rd grade history book. Also I took a moment to look over your web site. I have never seen a more self serving piece of socialist, eco nazi garbage. How do you look at yourself in the mirror each morning? __________________ FNUH! Last edited by Sniper[MI]; 03-06-2003 at 06:27 PM.

03-06-2003, 06:26 PM	#7
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,882 Blog Entries: 1	Thanks Sniper...:right: __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

03-06-2003, 07:16 PM	#8
grizzly Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: PDR of IL Posts: 654	I'm not as ellooquent as Sniper... You have got to be kidding...Your head must be soo far up your butt you will never see daylight...or smell the roses...With people like you in government it's no wonder that the terrorists were able to pull off the 9/11 attack... Jeff Kitchens Owner/Technical Services Manager Grizzly Enterprises grizzly@danville.net 217-304-4740 __________________ When white man found this land, Indians were running it. No Taxes... No Debt... Plenty Buffalo... Plenty beaver! Women did most of the work. Medicine Man free! Indian men hunted and fished all the time! White man dumb enough to think he could improve system like that. "The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that... it is their right and duty to be at all times armed." --Thomas Jefferson to John Cartwright, 1824.

03-07-2003, 07:43 AM	#9
Calvin Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 2,072	I fired one off last night to her. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dear Ms. Kaptur, I heard about the statement you made about the Founding Fathers of this great country, and the despicable comparison you made to Osama Bin Laden. First, I will let you know that I demand a public apology for this statement. The comparison you made was totally outside the realm of reality. Our nation was founded by people (men AND women) who desired to free a nation of government extorsion and control. Osama is doing just the opposite. He controls people with murder, kidnappings, and extortion. Women aren't allowed to even speak in public, let alone have any freedoms you enjoy on a daily basis. How can you honestly believe he is of the same cloth as the Founding Fathers? Secondly, you have a track record that is as unimpressive as can be. I am not sure how you managed to be re-elected, but am sure that this statement will probably help your opponents chances next election. You have been proven to vote for whatever benefits you, and you only. When it comes to issues that really affect your constituents, you have let them down consitently. You coddle criminals while punishing the innocent victims, and it's time for a change. In case you haven't noticed, the people of this great country have had it with incompetent people in charge, which is why the Republicans are at the helm. Or, haven't you figured out that the people you are supposed to serve have elected them? Lastly, just let me tell you that this comment really shows your ignorance. If you were my representative, I'd say you were making treasonous remarks, at best, and demand that you be removed from office. I feel sorry for the people in your district who didn't vote for you. And, to the ones who did vote for you, I hope they don't have problems sleeping at night knowing they put a totally incompetent person in charge of voicing their opinion. Sincerely, Calvin Logsdon wcl71067@aol.com __________________ If you don't like cops, call your local crackhead for help next time!

03-07-2003, 11:57 AM	#10
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,882 Blog Entries: 1	Watched Fox36 news last night, she said everything was taken out of context and it's just like the Republicans to twist her words around....GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

03-07-2003, 12:58 PM	#11
PAPA G Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Somerset, Guntucky Posts: 9,607	AMAZING ISN'T IT....... these clowns make idiotic statements, then try to lie their way out!!! what are all the voters idiots to fall for this stuff??? but shes safe in her district, i doubt if she can piss off enough of them to lose the next round.

03-07-2003, 01:04 PM	#12
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,882 Blog Entries: 1	She has alot of pull with the socialist auto workers in this area. Always crying that the Republicans are anti union and out to get the working man! When I worked at Jeep she was at my gate shaking hands. When I got off work at 4pm she was still there with the Union goons and tryed to shake my hand. I just looked at her hand and kept walking. I took alot of crap there for being a Republican and standing for my beliefs! __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

03-07-2003, 01:25 PM	#13
PAPA G Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Somerset, Guntucky Posts: 9,607	I REMEMBER THE UNION RALLIES ..... to get out the vote for the union backed candidates. i was not enthused at all. but know matter how much they talked up a candidate, i always voted for the pro-gun candidates.

03-07-2003, 06:52 PM	#14
missharpshooter Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,034	Good for you Clavin...great letter!!:nod:

03-07-2003, 08:23 PM	#15
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,882 Blog Entries: 1	Yeah CLAVIN! __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

03-09-2003, 01:06 AM	#16
Calvin Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 2,072	Anytime, man! Anytime!! :right: __________________ If you don't like cops, call your local crackhead for help next time!

03-09-2003, 01:37 AM	#17
Dennis Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,949	You guys remember Washington state's Patti Murray? She spoke in admiration for Osama Bin Laden claiming he built roads and daycare centers fot the afganistani people thats why they love him. So, ya see, you aint the only one that has to endure wittless elected represenatives. They really are that stupid __________________ Submitted with respect to all

03-09-2003, 07:43 PM	#18
Stopper Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansass Posts: 2,209	Right on NRAJOE, fight them socialist bastisgges at every turn. Heard this pshyco was a bull dyke pinko commie. Good luck getting this beeatch out of office. __________________ They should have stopped at "Congress shall make no law"

03-10-2003, 08:27 AM	#19
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,882 Blog Entries: 1	The Republicans are rubbing their hands together hoping they can put someone up against her now and win! Of course when you have a high concentration of Dumocrats in one area, anything can happen! When they had that red/blue map of the nation (red was Bush, blue was gore) pactically the whole state of Ohio was red except for this county in northwest Ohio....I gotta move man! __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

03-10-2003, 08:51 AM	#20
PAPA G Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Somerset, Guntucky Posts: 9,607	COME TO KENTUCKY!!! heck half of OH-10 comes here any way during the summer!!!