Marine Reservist Refuses To Serve

Doglips · 04-02-2003, 06:39 AM

This low life peice of trash..just shoot this scumbag...and BILL his Family for the bullet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! His winney arse excuse

""They don't really advertise that they kill people," "

....now the Marine Corps may have changed a little since I was a recruiter (1987-88) but Im pretty sure that even a brain dead monkey can figure out the diffrence between the Peace corps and the Marine Corps...I bet this dirtball has MC bumper stickers and tatoos all over the freaking place too boot.

Marine Reservist Refuses To Serve
Declares As Conscientious Objector

Lance Cpl. Stephen Funk turned himself in at the locked gates of the Marine Corps reserve center today.
(ABC7)
Apr. 1 (AP) — With his sister carrying his duffel bag and his mother holding his hand, a 20-year-old Marine reservist surrendered to military authorities Tuesday and declared himself a conscientious objector, weeks after refusing to report when called up to active duty.
Wearing camouflage fatigues, Lance Cpl. Stephen Funk turned himself in at the locked gates of the Marine Corps reserve center where he was assigned.
(ABC7)

"Ultimately, it's my fault for joining in the first place," said Funk, who didn't show up when his unit was deployed to Camp Pendleton. "It wasn't as well thought out as it should've been. It was about me being depressed and wanting direction in life."

Funk, who grew up in Washington state, enlisted last February when he was 19 and living on his own for the first time.

"I saw the valuable things you can learn like teamwork, leadership — things you can learn in Boy Scouts," he said. "I saw it as a way to learn new things and meet new people. It was a way to get what I thought was missing in my life."

He also said he caved in to pressure from a recruiter who capitalized on his vulnerability. He refused Tuesday to identify the recruiter.

"They don't really advertise that they kill people," Funk said. "I didn't really realize the full implications of what I was doing and what it really meant to be in the service as a reservist."

Funk said he began doubting his fitness for military service during basic training at Camp Pendleton last spring when he felt uncomfortable singing cadence calls that described violence and screaming "Kill. Kill. Kill," during weapons training.

"I was unwilling to do that. It just felt very wrong," he said. "I started just to mouth the words so I wouldn't get in trouble."

Funk, whose father served in the Navy in Vietnam, said he expressed his misgivings to several chaplains who never counseled him about the possibility of a conscientious objector discharge.

"I didn't ask for a way out, but I told them about it," he said. "I told them I'm having nightmares about what this is going to do for my conscience."

Funk's father, Robert Funk, enlisted in the Navy reserves and was called up to active duty in 1970 to serve in Vietnam. He said he wishes his son hadn't joined in the first place.

"I don't think he realized how close we were to getting involved in this conflict," Robert Funk said from his home in Everson, Wash. "I thought his views didn't line up with military service and he should wait and really look at it. ... I told him he had a contractual obligation. You may feel that way, but there are going to be penalties."

Erik Larsen, who spent four years in the Marine reserves, is fully aware of those penalties. He was a conscientious objector during the first Gulf War and was threatened with the death penalty for desertion during wartime, he said.

"My mom nearly had a heart attack in the federal courtroom when she heard that," he recalled. He eventually pleaded guilty to unauthorized absence, the Marine Corps' term for absent without leave, and spent nearly six months in a military prison, he said, adding he never regretted his decision.

"Violence is unacceptable," he said. "And being a conscientious objector is an honorable thing."

Those applying for status as a conscientious objector must submit a detailed letter explaining how their feelings have changed since joining the military. Then there are interviews with a military chaplain, a psychiatrist and an investigating officer. The final decision is made by top military commanders.

Applications for conscientious discharges always increase during wartime. There were 111 granted during the 1991 Gulf War. Only 28 were granted last year, military officials said.

"The Marine Corps understands there are service members opposed to the war," said Capt. Patrick O'Rourke, spokesman for Funk's unit, adding that he hadn't received Funk's application yet. "He'll be treated fairly."

Because Funk didn't report for active duty when his reserve unit was called up in mid-February, he will likely receive nonjudicial punishment, typically 30 days desk duty, his lawyer, Stephen Collier, said Monday.

At the gate Tuesday, marine officials said Funk needed to report for duty at 7:30 a.m. every morning while his application was processed.

Meantime, Funk says he's attended every major San Francisco Bay Area anti-war rally since finishing his military training last fall. And while he acknowledged he was surprised to get called up to active duty so quickly, Funk insists his decision had nothing to do with the current war in Iraq.

"I would be applying for this anyway," he said. "I believe a lot of those people going over there are going to have psychological problems and guilt. I can serve time for being a conscientious objector ... or I can go along and do something that I know is wrong and live with that forever."

dhermesc · 04-02-2003, 08:35 AM

I know that with an all volunteer force the marines will accept just about anybody, but I would think that at some point in this BOY's training a sergent would have pulled him aside and said, "Boy, your just to big of a pu** to do this job". Then drummed him out. As a man I would seriously consider a gender change operation if my MOMMY had to lead me by the hand to face 30 DAYS OF DESK DUTY! No wonder other countries question our resolve and abilities when this kind of garbage garners news print.

Sniper[MI] · 04-02-2003, 08:40 AM

And then I wanna ask him if hwe didnt read the BIG PRINT about what the Marines and their Reserve do.

Then I wanna ***** slap him and his mother for not cutting the umbilical cord....

Then I wanna kick him sqware in tha nuts!

He could get out real easy, the Marines take a few good men, not sniveling panty waist mamma's boys! Someone should point that out to the parties involved and then he can go home and live in mommies basement!

F*ckin girlie men make me sick!

BTW, if I showed up holding mommy's hand at 20, I'd hope someone would have shot me!

lefty o · 04-02-2003, 09:22 AM

shoot him!!! join up ,take the easy ride, but when you got to do what they pay you for you go crying to mommy. "they dont really advertise that they kill people" - what special little corner of space has this pansy been living in!!! there is no draft, no one forced him to enlist. a conscientious objector would not have enlisted(except for the free ride), so i consider what he is doing an act of treason-SHOOT HIM!!!!!

PAPA G · 04-02-2003, 09:32 AM

what a sorry POS!!! don't these clowns have an ounce of common sense??? article doesn't mention his MOS, bet its combat clerk or something like that.

people join NG/Reserves were whining and crying during Gulf WarI that they didn't join to fight. what Puking maggots.

Doglips · 04-02-2003, 09:49 AM

Sniper I was a little to P/Oed to have noticed..but you are right 20 yrs old..and mommy leadign him by the hand...like he was going to daycare.....that says it all.

Stopper · 04-02-2003, 11:05 AM

This is absolutely f***ing incredible, my God, what a p*ssy. Holding mamas hands to show up for duty. I'll never stop being amazed at the absolute stupidity of people, especially left leaning people. This little punk arssed bastige needs to be beat'n about the head and shoulders.

Calvin · 04-02-2003, 11:41 AM

What a crock of sh*t!! This moron is not gonna be able to convince anyone that he didn't know he may have to kill someone after joining the Marines!
How can someone so stupid exist in the first place? Where was this kids' mom during basic training? How did he ever survive not getting his a** kicked in basic?!?!?!?

Klaus · 04-02-2003, 11:55 AM

NJP???? This is BS. Court Martial him for desertion! He deserves a BCD at LEAST.

Big Dog · 04-02-2003, 12:39 PM

No doubt Mommy and Daddy will petition the Grey One for a pardon for their darling boy. Hope he gets to enjoy his nuptials with "Bubba" in the clink first. He'll become the hero of the Berkely crowd. Can a tear-jerker Hollywierd Movie be far behind?

dhermesc · 04-02-2003, 05:08 PM

Big Dog:

According to the article he will probably face 30 days of desk duty for being AWOL, no time in a cell for this little fairy. As for nuptials with Bubba, this little jerk wad would be in heaven getting corn holed in the shower.

whirlwind · 04-02-2003, 10:58 PM

i read about crap like this and i cant help but think of my dad. two purple hearts in korea,one from the chosin res. a field comission to second lieu......this reservist aint no marine! never was never will be! he has no tradition,no pride,no self respect! they should give him a dishonorable and forget his sorry @zz! he's a disgrace

Sniper[MI] · 04-03-2003, 08:23 AM

Howdy,

My dad also got a Purple Heart at Chosin....

whirlwind · 04-03-2003, 11:43 AM

hey sniper,was he a marine also? my dad was with the first.

colt45 · 04-03-2003, 07:07 PM

as a former devil dog i can't even coment on this sorry heep of crap.

7mmag6 · 04-04-2003, 03:33 AM

arrrrrrrrrrrgh you know my reply, little boy is so sorry and afraid yes mama will be mad, coward, double coward, makes me sick to my stomach, idiot

Big Dog · 04-04-2003, 06:36 AM

What do you wanna bet this kid ends up as either a frycook at MickyD's or a Psych Prof at Berkeley? Both are about the same level. He's not worthy to shine Private Jessica's combat boots! I have loads of respect and admiration for her, and regret for what she suffered while doing her duty. I have none for sonny-boy.

ezearln · 08-17-2007, 01:05 PM

They didn't advertise they "KILL" people? Holy horse hockey! What the heck did this sorry SOS think The ARMED FORCES did? Surely this turd has seen at least one war flick in his lifetime or maybe he thought it was a freaking video game... Dishonorable Discharge followed by 18 months confinement at Ft Leavenworth at hard labor... Then I never want to hear from or about his cowardly azz again, that's my reconmendation Sir. Makes me wish I could sit on the Court Martial Board !

troy2000 · 08-17-2007, 01:33 PM

"Ultimately, it's my fault for joining in the first place," said Funk.

Well, yes. It is. And if he's bailing out and reneging on his oath, that's his fault too. No sympathy from me.

But I'll bet he means "it's my fault" like a politician means, "I accept full responsibility." Neither one actually means he wants to accept the consequences of his actions.

CrazyIvan · 08-17-2007, 01:39 PM

As much as I don't agree with the war in Iraq, I will say that you shouldn't sign up for something if you aren't willing to do it. That is why I didn't sign up...cause Iraq is just a money tree for our govt. and big business, as well as a diversion from our illegal immigration problem. I didn't want to be a pawn in the war and propoganda by our Govt.

04-02-2003, 06:39 AM	#1
Doglips Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cocoa Florida Posts: 9,089	Marine Reservist Refuses To Serve This low life peice of trash..just shoot this scumbag...and BILL his Family for the bullet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! His winney arse excuse ""They don't really advertise that they kill people," " ....now the Marine Corps may have changed a little since I was a recruiter (1987-88) but Im pretty sure that even a brain dead monkey can figure out the diffrence between the Peace corps and the Marine Corps...I bet this dirtball has MC bumper stickers and tatoos all over the freaking place too boot. Marine Reservist Refuses To Serve Declares As Conscientious Objector Lance Cpl. Stephen Funk turned himself in at the locked gates of the Marine Corps reserve center today. (ABC7) Apr. 1 (AP) — With his sister carrying his duffel bag and his mother holding his hand, a 20-year-old Marine reservist surrendered to military authorities Tuesday and declared himself a conscientious objector, weeks after refusing to report when called up to active duty. Wearing camouflage fatigues, Lance Cpl. Stephen Funk turned himself in at the locked gates of the Marine Corps reserve center where he was assigned. (ABC7) "Ultimately, it's my fault for joining in the first place," said Funk, who didn't show up when his unit was deployed to Camp Pendleton. "It wasn't as well thought out as it should've been. It was about me being depressed and wanting direction in life." Funk, who grew up in Washington state, enlisted last February when he was 19 and living on his own for the first time. "I saw the valuable things you can learn like teamwork, leadership — things you can learn in Boy Scouts," he said. "I saw it as a way to learn new things and meet new people. It was a way to get what I thought was missing in my life." He also said he caved in to pressure from a recruiter who capitalized on his vulnerability. He refused Tuesday to identify the recruiter. "They don't really advertise that they kill people," Funk said. "I didn't really realize the full implications of what I was doing and what it really meant to be in the service as a reservist." Funk said he began doubting his fitness for military service during basic training at Camp Pendleton last spring when he felt uncomfortable singing cadence calls that described violence and screaming "Kill. Kill. Kill," during weapons training. "I was unwilling to do that. It just felt very wrong," he said. "I started just to mouth the words so I wouldn't get in trouble." Funk, whose father served in the Navy in Vietnam, said he expressed his misgivings to several chaplains who never counseled him about the possibility of a conscientious objector discharge. "I didn't ask for a way out, but I told them about it," he said. "I told them I'm having nightmares about what this is going to do for my conscience." Funk's father, Robert Funk, enlisted in the Navy reserves and was called up to active duty in 1970 to serve in Vietnam. He said he wishes his son hadn't joined in the first place. "I don't think he realized how close we were to getting involved in this conflict," Robert Funk said from his home in Everson, Wash. "I thought his views didn't line up with military service and he should wait and really look at it. ... I told him he had a contractual obligation. You may feel that way, but there are going to be penalties." Erik Larsen, who spent four years in the Marine reserves, is fully aware of those penalties. He was a conscientious objector during the first Gulf War and was threatened with the death penalty for desertion during wartime, he said. "My mom nearly had a heart attack in the federal courtroom when she heard that," he recalled. He eventually pleaded guilty to unauthorized absence, the Marine Corps' term for absent without leave, and spent nearly six months in a military prison, he said, adding he never regretted his decision. "Violence is unacceptable," he said. "And being a conscientious objector is an honorable thing." Those applying for status as a conscientious objector must submit a detailed letter explaining how their feelings have changed since joining the military. Then there are interviews with a military chaplain, a psychiatrist and an investigating officer. The final decision is made by top military commanders. Applications for conscientious discharges always increase during wartime. There were 111 granted during the 1991 Gulf War. Only 28 were granted last year, military officials said. "The Marine Corps understands there are service members opposed to the war," said Capt. Patrick O'Rourke, spokesman for Funk's unit, adding that he hadn't received Funk's application yet. "He'll be treated fairly." Because Funk didn't report for active duty when his reserve unit was called up in mid-February, he will likely receive nonjudicial punishment, typically 30 days desk duty, his lawyer, Stephen Collier, said Monday. At the gate Tuesday, marine officials said Funk needed to report for duty at 7:30 a.m. every morning while his application was processed. Meantime, Funk says he's attended every major San Francisco Bay Area anti-war rally since finishing his military training last fall. And while he acknowledged he was surprised to get called up to active duty so quickly, Funk insists his decision had nothing to do with the current war in Iraq. "I would be applying for this anyway," he said. "I believe a lot of those people going over there are going to have psychological problems and guilt. I can serve time for being a conscientious objector ... or I can go along and do something that I know is wrong and live with that forever."

04-02-2003, 08:35 AM	#2
dhermesc Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: East Central Kansas Posts: 1,762	I know that with an all volunteer force the marines will accept just about anybody, but I would think that at some point in this BOY's training a sergent would have pulled him aside and said, "Boy, your just to big of a pu** to do this job". Then drummed him out. As a man I would seriously consider a gender change operation if my MOMMY had to lead me by the hand to face 30 DAYS OF DESK DUTY! No wonder other countries question our resolve and abilities when this kind of garbage garners news print. __________________ Liberty is for those that claim it.

04-02-2003, 08:40 AM	#3
Sniper[MI] Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Future 51st state, "New Hope" Posts: 3,796	I wanna see him face to face! And then I wanna ask him if hwe didnt read the BIG PRINT about what the Marines and their Reserve do. Then I wanna ***** slap him and his mother for not cutting the umbilical cord.... Then I wanna kick him sqware in tha nuts! He could get out real easy, the Marines take a few good men, not sniveling panty waist mamma's boys! Someone should point that out to the parties involved and then he can go home and live in mommies basement! F*ckin girlie men make me sick! BTW, if I showed up holding mommy's hand at 20, I'd hope someone would have shot me! __________________ FNUH!

04-02-2003, 09:32 AM	#5
PAPA G Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 12	NO BODY TOLD ME............... what a sorry POS!!! don't these clowns have an ounce of common sense??? article doesn't mention his MOS, bet its combat clerk or something like that. people join NG/Reserves were whining and crying during Gulf WarI that they didn't join to fight. what Puking maggots.

04-02-2003, 11:05 AM	#7
Stopper Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansass Posts: 2,211 Images: 1	This is absolutely f**ing incredible, my God, what a pssy. Holding mamas hands to show up for duty. I'll never stop being amazed at the absolute stupidity of people, especially left leaning people. This little punk arssed bastige needs to be beat'n about the head and shoulders. __________________ They should have stopped at "Congress shall make no law"

04-02-2003, 09:22 AM	#4
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,785	shoot him!!! join up ,take the easy ride, but when you got to do what they pay you for you go crying to mommy. "they dont really advertise that they kill people" - what special little corner of space has this pansy been living in!!! there is no draft, no one forced him to enlist. a conscientious objector would not have enlisted(except for the free ride), so i consider what he is doing an act of treason-SHOOT HIM!!!!!

04-02-2003, 09:49 AM	#6
Doglips Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cocoa Florida Posts: 9,089	Sniper I was a little to P/Oed to have noticed..but you are right 20 yrs old..and mommy leadign him by the hand...like he was going to daycare.....that says it all.

04-02-2003, 11:41 AM	#8
Calvin Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 1,996	What a crock of sht!! This moron is not gonna be able to convince anyone that he didn't know he may have to kill someone after joining the Marines! How can someone so stupid exist in the first place? Where was this kids' mom during basic training? How did he ever survive not getting his a* kicked in basic?!?!?!? __________________ I've gone to look for myself. If I should return before I get back, please ask me to wait.

04-02-2003, 11:55 AM	#9
Klaus Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 2,383	NJP???? This is BS. Court Martial him for desertion! He deserves a BCD at LEAST. __________________ "Gee, Wally, Eddie Haskel's mom puts out!"

04-02-2003, 12:39 PM	#10
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,205	No doubt Mommy and Daddy will petition the Grey One for a pardon for their darling boy. Hope he gets to enjoy his nuptials with "Bubba" in the clink first. He'll become the hero of the Berkely crowd. Can a tear-jerker Hollywierd Movie be far behind? __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

04-02-2003, 05:08 PM	#11
dhermesc Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: East Central Kansas Posts: 1,762	Big Dog: According to the article he will probably face 30 days of desk duty for being AWOL, no time in a cell for this little fairy. As for nuptials with Bubba, this little jerk wad would be in heaven getting corn holed in the shower. __________________ Liberty is for those that claim it.

04-02-2003, 10:58 PM	#12
whirlwind Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: oklahoma Posts: 3,737 Images: 1	i read about crap like this and i cant help but think of my dad. two purple hearts in korea,one from the chosin res. a field comission to second lieu......this reservist aint no marine! never was never will be! he has no tradition,no pride,no self respect! they should give him a dishonorable and forget his sorry @zz! he's a disgrace __________________ De oppresso liber !

04-03-2003, 08:23 AM	#13
Sniper[MI] Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Future 51st state, "New Hope" Posts: 3,796	Hey Whirlwind! Howdy, My dad also got a Purple Heart at Chosin.... __________________ FNUH!

04-03-2003, 11:43 AM	#14
whirlwind Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: oklahoma Posts: 3,737 Images: 1	hey sniper,was he a marine also? my dad was with the first. __________________ De oppresso liber !

04-03-2003, 07:07 PM	#15
colt45 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Occupied Territories of New York (Buffalo) Posts: 2,898	as a former devil dog i can't even coment on this sorry heep of crap. __________________ "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity" -Sigmund Freud, General Introduction to Psychoanalysis "If guns cause crime, all of mine are defective." - Ted Nugent "Self-defense is Nature's eldest law." -John Dryden

04-04-2003, 03:33 AM	#16
7mmag6 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 337 Images: 1	arrrrrrrrrrrgh you know my reply, little boy is so sorry and afraid yes mama will be mad, coward, double coward, makes me sick to my stomach, idiot __________________ This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine

04-04-2003, 06:36 AM	#17
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,205	What do you wanna bet this kid ends up as either a frycook at MickyD's or a Psych Prof at Berkeley? Both are about the same level. He's not worthy to shine Private Jessica's combat boots! I have loads of respect and admiration for her, and regret for what she suffered while doing her duty. I have none for sonny-boy. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

08-17-2007, 01:05 PM	#18
ezearln Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 3,175	They didn't advertise they "KILL" people? Holy horse hockey! What the heck did this sorry SOS think The ARMED FORCES did? Surely this turd has seen at least one war flick in his lifetime or maybe he thought it was a freaking video game... Dishonorable Discharge followed by 18 months confinement at Ft Leavenworth at hard labor... Then I never want to hear from or about his cowardly azz again, that's my reconmendation Sir. Makes me wish I could sit on the Court Martial Board ! __________________ "You can have my Freedom when I'm done with it!"

08-17-2007, 01:33 PM	#19
troy2000 Resident Armed Liberal Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 9,405 Images: 9	"Ultimately, it's my fault for joining in the first place," said Funk. Well, yes. It is. And if he's bailing out and reneging on his oath, that's his fault too. No sympathy from me. But I'll bet he means "it's my fault" like a politician means, "I accept full responsibility." Neither one actually means he wants to accept the consequences of his actions. __________________ If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. -Anatole France Last edited by troy2000; 08-17-2007 at 01:47 PM.

08-17-2007, 01:39 PM	#20
CrazyIvan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 2,338	As much as I don't agree with the war in Iraq, I will say that you shouldn't sign up for something if you aren't willing to do it. That is why I didn't sign up...cause Iraq is just a money tree for our govt. and big business, as well as a diversion from our illegal immigration problem. I didn't want to be a pawn in the war and propoganda by our Govt. __________________ "Minimum wage, minimum effort." "Never underestimate the power of stupidity." ~Me