19th Century Gatling gun

BattleRifleG3 · 05-02-2003, 02:11 PM

Good old manually operated mounted multi-barrel guns. Were wheeled around like artillery pieces. Fed through a hopper at the top. Came in during the Civil War on the Union side but probably didn't make too much of a difference at the time. And they were invented by a guy wanting to end wars faster so fewer people would die. Go figure.

Question is what ammo did they fire? And as time went on, what ammo did they change to until they finally switched to self-loading machineguns?

I'm wondering if they ever made them in 45-70, which is still being produced. Anyone know?

And anyone know if such a manually operated gun would be legal to manufacture today in that caliber?

PAPA G · 05-02-2003, 02:34 PM

well the Gatling Gun has been used in:
.58 cal paper cartridge with percussion cap.
1 inch
50/70
45/70
30/40 Krag
30-03
30-06

i cannot find any info about the 1 inch cartridge, any one know about that???
it was used from the US Civil War to just before WWI. many foriegn armies used it to, in their own cartridges. do a Google search for gobs more info.

they are not considered to be machine guns, and any one can own one provided you have the do-re-me!!!

NRAJOE · 05-02-2003, 03:33 PM

Since it actually is a manually cranked gun, it is legal to own and does not fall under the machine gun catagory.

http://www.machineguns.co.nz/Products.shtml

http://www.gatlinggun.net/index4.html

dhermesc · 05-02-2003, 03:38 PM

There was also a single barrel weapon nicknamed the coffee grinder that fired the same 45 rimfire that the the Henry rifle used. Was also a hopper fed weapon that was very prone to jamming. Do not recall the "real" name.

Watched a demonstration of the Gatling gun that fired 45-70 on the history channel. Very impressive despite the seemingly slow rate of fire. Imagine all those huge chunks of lead flying your way, and all you have to fire back with is a black powder musket.

tommy · 05-02-2003, 09:46 PM

yep i second the 45/70 i saw the same show .

sure can learn alot from watchin the tube all day lol.

7mmag6 · 05-02-2003, 11:36 PM

Man did you see the smoke that thing produced, you needed a spotter 25 yards to the side

BattleRifleG3 · 05-03-2003, 01:10 AM

Hmm, sure it would require an FFL, but what about making a revolver based device that loaded the shells on one side and ejected them on the other? It would be the coolest 22 in the world.

PAPA G · 05-03-2003, 07:49 AM

a 1950's design that went no where, used a triangular shaped cartridge called "trounds". fed from a magazine, cylinder picked up tround carried it to the firing positions, then ejected the case on the side. it was a double action only.

tommy · 05-03-2003, 10:47 AM

did anyone try out those ruger gatlin gun kits yet ?they look pretty cool.twin ruggers hooked up like gatlin guns with twin 100 round clips .the kits sell for a grand i think .but i could make it for about 30 bucks.

minus the two ruger's that is

BattleRifleG3 · 05-03-2003, 12:02 PM

There's a trigger attachment called the Gat trigger, that's available for a variety of guns. It actually works, but you have to crank it so it's hard to hold the gun. Maybe if you mounted it somehow. I could see that working well on an AK. My friend has one for an SKS, but I expect it would wear the rifle out faster.
Price is $30ish.

tommy · 05-03-2003, 02:23 PM

i was a little off on the price but check out these . man i could have fun all day long with one of these. www.gatlingguns.com

PAPA G · 05-03-2003, 05:00 PM

www.gatlinggun.net

tommy · 05-03-2003, 09:09 PM

nice guns but i bet they come with a nice price tag too .

PAPA G · 05-03-2003, 10:49 PM

if you got to ask about the price, than you can't afford it???

05-02-2003, 02:11 PM	#1
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Trader Rating: (0)	19th Century Gatling gun Good old manually operated mounted multi-barrel guns. Were wheeled around like artillery pieces. Fed through a hopper at the top. Came in during the Civil War on the Union side but probably didn't make too much of a difference at the time. And they were invented by a guy wanting to end wars faster so fewer people would die. Go figure. Question is what ammo did they fire? And as time went on, what ammo did they change to until they finally switched to self-loading machineguns? I'm wondering if they ever made them in 45-70, which is still being produced. Anyone know? And anyone know if such a manually operated gun would be legal to manufacture today in that caliber? __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

05-02-2003, 02:34 PM	#2
PAPA G Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 12 Trader Rating: (0)	well the Gatling Gun has been used in: .58 cal paper cartridge with percussion cap. 1 inch 50/70 45/70 30/40 Krag 30-03 30-06 i cannot find any info about the 1 inch cartridge, any one know about that??? it was used from the US Civil War to just before WWI. many foriegn armies used it to, in their own cartridges. do a Google search for gobs more info. they are not considered to be machine guns, and any one can own one provided you have the do-re-me!!! Last edited by PAPA G; 05-02-2003 at 02:52 PM.

05-02-2003, 03:33 PM	#3
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,014 Trader Rating: (0)	Since it actually is a manually cranked gun, it is legal to own and does not fall under the machine gun catagory. http://www.machineguns.co.nz/Products.shtml http://www.gatlinggun.net/index4.html __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

05-02-2003, 03:38 PM	#4
dhermesc Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: East Central Kansas Posts: 1,763 Trader Rating: (0)	There was also a single barrel weapon nicknamed the coffee grinder that fired the same 45 rimfire that the the Henry rifle used. Was also a hopper fed weapon that was very prone to jamming. Do not recall the "real" name. Watched a demonstration of the Gatling gun that fired 45-70 on the history channel. Very impressive despite the seemingly slow rate of fire. Imagine all those huge chunks of lead flying your way, and all you have to fire back with is a black powder musket. __________________ Liberty is for those that claim it.

05-02-2003, 11:36 PM	#6
7mmag6 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 337 Trader Rating: (0)	Man did you see the smoke that thing produced, you needed a spotter 25 yards to the side __________________ This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine

05-02-2003, 09:46 PM	#5
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 3,893 Trader Rating: (0)	yep i second the 45/70 i saw the same show . sure can learn alot from watchin the tube all day lol.

05-03-2003, 01:10 AM	#7
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Trader Rating: (0)	Hmm, sure it would require an FFL, but what about making a revolver based device that loaded the shells on one side and ejected them on the other? It would be the coolest 22 in the world. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

05-03-2003, 07:49 AM	#8
PAPA G Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 12 Trader Rating: (0)	THAT WOULD BE THE DARDICK HANDGUN!!! a 1950's design that went no where, used a triangular shaped cartridge called "trounds". fed from a magazine, cylinder picked up tround carried it to the firing positions, then ejected the case on the side. it was a double action only.

05-03-2003, 10:47 AM	#9
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 3,893 Trader Rating: (0)	did anyone try out those ruger gatlin gun kits yet ?they look pretty cool.twin ruggers hooked up like gatlin guns with twin 100 round clips .the kits sell for a grand i think .but i could make it for about 30 bucks. minus the two ruger's that is

05-03-2003, 12:02 PM	#10
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Trader Rating: (0)	There's a trigger attachment called the Gat trigger, that's available for a variety of guns. It actually works, but you have to crank it so it's hard to hold the gun. Maybe if you mounted it somehow. I could see that working well on an AK. My friend has one for an SKS, but I expect it would wear the rifle out faster. Price is $30ish. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

05-03-2003, 02:23 PM	#11
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 3,893 Trader Rating: (0)	i was a little off on the price but check out these . man i could have fun all day long with one of these. www.gatlingguns.com

05-03-2003, 05:00 PM	#12
PAPA G Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 12 Trader Rating: (0)	FOR SOMETHING MORE AUTHENTIC!!! www.gatlinggun.net

05-03-2003, 09:09 PM	#13
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 3,893 Trader Rating: (0)	nice guns but i bet they come with a nice price tag too .

05-03-2003, 10:49 PM	#14
PAPA G Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 12 Trader Rating: (0)	WHAT THEY SAY................... if you got to ask about the price, than you can't afford it???