Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 01-03-2011, 08:55 PM   #1
Chief Troll B' Gone
 
Midas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: NW Arkansas
Posts: 4,628
Red face Suspicious Individual

I usually don't post threads regarding matters of law, but I have encountered an individual in the area that might need to be looked into by local authorities. In the handful of instances where I have seen him, he has pulled the same routine, or one similar: he will wait in the parking lot near the entrance of local box stores (I've seen him at Wal Mart and Target) at dusk or after dark, and will solicit people exiting the stores for money, he always uses language that is likely to get a sympathetic reaction, such as his mom being in the hospital, or his wife's car running out of gas. After he obtains money from a few people, he will hastily make his way to the other side of the parking lot, where I have personally seen him get into a car, and drive off. Now, had this been a one time deal, I might not think much of it, but I have seen this guy, on no less than five occasions doing the same thing, in the town that I live in, and in a neighboring town. My question is, would it be possible to have the police look into this guy? I understand that everyone falls onto hard times every once in awhile, but I think that he is manipulating people to get their money, so that he can use it for drugs or booze. Any on how to go about having him investigated would be much appreciated.
__________________
NRA Life Member
God Bless the United States Military
Midas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2011, 09:03 PM   #2
Firearm Aficionado
 
Joe Shmoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: In the desert, on a horse with no name
Posts: 695
I might try to do a little surveillance work myself, but I'm crazy.

One option would be to tell the security of the stores to watch for this dude, and give a description. If it gets bad, you may want to mention it to the authorities.
__________________
All things come to he who waits... but these days, most things suck.
- Lemmy
Joe Shmoe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2011, 09:07 PM   #3
Firearm Zealot
 
XIDshooter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: New Yorzikstan
Posts: 2,429
Contact the store manager,most places have policies against solicitation without prior authorization.
Just explain that this person has done this more than once and is bothering their customers(you are bothered,right?) and let them handle it.
__________________
My 2nd Amendment rights trump your wanting to feel warm and fuzzy
XIDshooter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2011, 09:11 PM   #4
Firearm Zealot
 
Para Cassatt's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 3,807
If it's in the same county I would stop a deputy describe what you've seen and ask if he is breaking any laws. I would think that the businesses would probably like to know too.
Para Cassatt is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2011, 09:17 PM   #5
TGF
Firearm Zealot
 
TGF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Blair, NE
Posts: 5,155
Professional beggar Midas, they make about 50k a year tax free. Its good work if you have no ethics, I would be surprised if he was actually doing anything illegal.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...ore.html?cat=3
__________________
We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. -Aesop
TGF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2011, 09:22 PM   #6
Firearm Aficionado
 
Joe Shmoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: In the desert, on a horse with no name
Posts: 695
Quote:       Originally Posted by TargetGunFan
Its good work if you have no ethics
Or morals. Or self-respect. Or......


I've heard a little about the whole "professional beggar" thing, but wouldn't he be loitering? Or soliciting, or something like that? (Not great with terminology here) Most stores have signs posted prohibiting that. Illegal or not, they could probably throw him off.
__________________
All things come to he who waits... but these days, most things suck.
- Lemmy
Joe Shmoe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2011, 10:35 PM   #7
Firearm Aficionado
 
danf6975's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,149
yes what he is doing is illegal and you can call the police but the problem is that unless the department is bored or the store itself calls more than once and tresspasses him not much will happen.
what you do is anywhere you see him go into the store and tell the manager of the store to call the police and have him tresspassed .
2 times in one parking lot and he is going to jail if he is caught.
danf6975 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2011, 05:40 AM   #8
Firearm Zealot
 
kansascoyote's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 2,469
Blog Entries: 3
I had ran into a fella doing the same thing of sourts he claimed he was stuck here on his way back to colorado . After some time i discovered this joker had a kid in the same private school as my children attend . I cornered him at a school function and ask him if he wanted to give me my $5 back or if he would rather I report him to the priest . I got my $5 back and I never saw him begging again . The ironic part is he payed me back in quarters because all he had was 5 $20 bills in his wallet . What a dirt bag .
__________________
Any given Sunday ............. david vs Goliath ........never give up hope........Wolverines !!
kansascoyote is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2011, 06:06 AM   #9
Firearm Zealot
 
Rambo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Iowa
Posts: 10,402
Confront him and run him out of your neighborhood. Panhandling is illegal in most places. If trouble starts, who are the cops gonna believe? You, a hard working, stable person or this transient? Tell him to push off!
__________________
Getting in shape ain't for sissies.
Rambo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2011, 06:57 AM   #10
Firearm Aficionado
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Henderson, NV
Posts: 660
Midas: Most larger Police Depts. or County Sheriffs have a "Community Relations" designated Officer or even department. Contact the appropriate law enforcement group and ask. Explain the situation and ask them to 'check the guy out'. Sometimes the Chief LEO of an area will go on Talk Radio and be available to be buttonholed about a specific problem. If you have such an opportunity, go for it. Get the guy's license plate number and a good physical description if possible before going to the Police. .......... Big Cholla

Last edited by Big Cholla; 01-04-2011 at 10:41 AM. Reason: "Git" for "Get", jeez, where did that come from? :-)
Big Cholla is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2011, 08:03 AM   #11
Some People's kids....
 
texnmidwest's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: South east Wisconsin
Posts: 14,239
All good advice above. I agree with contacting the store managers. They have a vested interest in seeing that their customers are comfortable shopping in their stores. I have seen this work quite effectively in my community.

But, if that doesn't work...then just bull rush him, B***H slap him, tie him to an ant hill and smear his ears with jam!
__________________
Dedicated to the memory of Ronald "Dad" Knutson Sr. 1936-2013
texnmidwest is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2011, 08:18 AM   #12
Firearm Zealot
 
BunnyWabbit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Jayhawk Country
Posts: 13,724
Blog Entries: 1
Get the tag number on the car and turn him in. I have seen several "beggar" type people and most of the time they walk over to a vehicle and get in and leave. Some of the vehicles were nicer than what I drive.
__________________
Sitting at the corner of awesome and bombdiggity.
BunnyWabbit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2011, 09:51 AM   #13
34th Infantry Div.
 
CopperniX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Your Back Yard.
Posts: 3,177
Blog Entries: 3
That's social engineering at its best ( No I'm not defending the guy). Basically he knows human nature and what to say to get the reaction he is looking for. To better explain social engineering just read up on anything about Kevin Mitnick. He was/is the master of social engineering.
CopperniX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2011, 01:37 PM   #14
Freedom Zealot
 
SwedeSteve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Anchortown, Alaska
Posts: 33,734
I agree with letting the stores know. Most have rules against panhandling on their property.
__________________
I keep tellin ya Doc, I'm in pretty good shape considerin the shape I'm in !!
SwedeSteve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2011, 02:27 PM   #15
Firearm Zealot
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,079
Go tell the store management that he is outside harassing customers, they will probably tell him to leave the property, or just call the police and tell them that some suspicious guy is out harassing people. If you see him again, you could also try to get his plate number too.
__________________
It's not always the size of the dog in the fight. Often it's the size of the fight in the dog.
TACAV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2011, 02:38 PM   #16
Firearm Zealot
 
whirlwind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: oklahoma
Posts: 4,648
no big deal...when ya see him call the cops.... see him again...call the cops again...see him again call em again. panhandling is against the law in most states and enuff complaints pile up he will either move on,stop or spend some time in jail. when in doubt-911
__________________
De oppresso liber !
whirlwind is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2011, 03:47 PM   #17
Firearm Zealot
 
Palladin8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 5,982
They are on almost every street corner here in Las Vegas. Some of them wear suits and ties and hold signs for "charities" others appear to be truely homeless. I have been approached by the same guy in different parts of the valley with him using the same lines. I told him "you used that line on me the other day in the south end of town" and he muttered curse words and walked away. I have also been approached in parking lots where kids and their parents asked for money. Some of them even try and make you feel bad for not giving them any money but I have grown so tired of the begging that it falls on deaf ears most of the time.
Palladin8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2011, 03:49 PM   #18
Firearm Zealot
 
billy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca
Posts: 24,165
i do not give out money.
__________________
"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
billy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2011, 04:07 PM   #19
Firearm Aficionado
 
danf6975's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,149
because you spend it on anti janitor BS muffs and left handed football bats?
danf6975 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2011, 04:20 PM   #20
Firearm Zealot
 
SKS NOOB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Minnesotah
Posts: 3,643
Quote:       Originally Posted by danf6975 View Post
because you spend it on anti janitor BS muffs and left handed football bats?

Don't forget the anti-tax tu tu's. They are his favorite.
SKS NOOB is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Gun and Game - Firearms Forums > General > The Powder Keg

Tags
individual, suspicious

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:00 PM.




Recent Discussions

Proud Sponsors




"It don't cost nuthin' to be nice." -- Mike West