The G&G Admin Shoots in Neighborhood

Chris · 05-26-2003, 05:31 PM

Well...here is a gun story about our own Jesse.

My driveway is a bit long and on a hill, so Jesse pulled to the top of it. I started to walk out, when he noticed somethign moving along the weeds near a tree. He told me to come quick, yet slow. There was what looked like a copperhead with its head locked on Jesse.

I quickly asked Jesse if he was carrying a piece...which is a no brainer...he checked his surroundings and then took less than 2 seconds shooting the snake's head off. The snake was approx. 3 feet long with some of the tightest muscles I have ever seen on a snake.

He shot it with a Gov. Model 45, (he can give you better details), with a winchester cartridge....man the bullet started to dig a hole in the ground.

Well I just have to say, very nice shooting today Jesse and and many thanks for taking care of this problem.

Oxford · 05-26-2003, 05:50 PM

Does, "...it's head locked on Jesse..." mean that the snakes head and fangs were locked in, or that it was looking straight at Jessee ready to attack?

Hope that it was just looking seriously at Jesse and that was all. Of course that's plenty for any person deal with in one day.

Those copperheads are definitely poisonous and are aggressive. Good shooting Jesse. Thank God you were carrying. Hope your nerves are settled down enough to enjoy the rest of the day.(ha)

Ox:nod:

Chris · 05-26-2003, 06:36 PM

It was just looking at him...too far to attack...but I think after close examination it wasn't a copperhead.

toolman · 05-26-2003, 07:08 PM

Oh well, IMO the only good snake's a dead snake, good shootin' Jesse!

PAPA G · 05-26-2003, 07:48 PM

thats why i don't go camping anymore, copperheads a plenty around here.

Jesse · 05-26-2003, 09:08 PM

Thanks guys! I don't normally go around shooting in people's front yards, but Chris insisted that the snake had to go... personally I thought it was a Cottonmouth Moccasin, a highly poisonous snake in our parts. He was in the shrubs around a tree to the right of Chris' driveway when I got out of my car and reared up at me when I got about 7-10 yards from him. He was extremely agressive, which fueled my thoughts of "moccasin!".
The main thing I wanted to make sure of was that if I took a shot it would be safe. The snake just happened to be in the shrubs in front of a dirt mound when he reared up...

Here's a link to the 1911 Colt Series 80 I shot him with...

http://www.geocities.com/incrediheel/Colt80.html

Calvin · 05-26-2003, 09:19 PM

Hopefully it wasn't any relative of Joe's.....

NRAJOE · 05-26-2003, 10:46 PM

You killed Uncle Slimey!!!!!

7mmag6 · 05-27-2003, 12:14 AM

snakes are actually pretty good eatin, well at least rattlers are, send me the hide and ill make a nice belt for you

Klaus · 05-27-2003, 10:02 AM

Everyone keeps talking about how aggressive cottonmouths are, but I have NEVER seen an aggressive one. I have run into several copperheads that tried to bite me, but cottonmouth moccasins always try to flee from me. They are common here, north of Houston, but moccasin bites are very rare. People often get the snakes trapped in swimming pools after heavy rains. The Sheriff's department catches the snakes and the releases them in the woods. From what I have seen, cottonmouths are not aggressive, but very curious. If they see something unusual, especially in the water, they will check it out. This is not an attack.

Jesse · 05-27-2003, 10:58 AM

Back in 1984, I saw a Cottonmouth swimming across a river. Logs and debris were scattered due to a storm. As he approached the first log in his path, he made contact with his nose, retracted and struck the log before going around it. I don't think they are overly agressive except when they are carrying their young. Regardless, one would do well to steer clear of them. What scares me is children getting bit by Cottonmouths, as well as Copperheads. My yard has TONS of snakes. We recently landscaped and in the period of 2 days, 11 snakes were killed. Of those 11, 3 were Cottonmouths and 2 were Copperheads. I plan on getting some King Snakes in the future to control the population of the poisonous variety in my yard.

ltcboy · 05-28-2003, 11:15 AM

When I was in in Ft Benning for infantry school and we were on manuevers. We were making our way thru a swamp and we camped out there for about three hours to get some rest. I was sleeping up against a lod when I felt something manuver across my legs and waist. I woke up to this and I discovered it was a water moccasin. I never had a scare like that before. To this day, I still get nightmares about that. Any time I see one now, I roll over them with my lawn mower. God I hate them.

MIKe

Klaus · 05-28-2003, 03:28 PM

So, Itcboy, you are attacking creatures that did no harm to you because you were once scared by a non threatoning snake? That is a very Democrat thing to do.

alan c. · 05-28-2003, 04:42 PM

Cottonmouths are dangerous. They are common to the Houston-Pasadena area. I had one drop in a canoe from a low limb of a tree. He was very agressive -- darn near tipped the canoe over hitting him with a paddle.

Oxford · 05-28-2003, 05:57 PM

Alan I had a similar experience once when fishing with a buddy using a flat bottom fishing boat. We'd tied it up to a low hanging limb along the shore and were fishing when we saw this moccasin heading for us aggressively.

He made several attempts to climb up and over the side to get inside but we beat him off with our spare oar and untied so we could find what we considered a safer place to drink our beer.(ha) We were fishing at Table Rock Lake which is in southern Missouri nearly on the Arkansas border.

Ox

:nod:

7mmag6 · 05-28-2003, 11:22 PM

jesse check out this rattler i have never seen one this big its huge

Oxford · 05-29-2003, 09:49 AM

7mmag6: Is that a lawyer snake? Or is it related to the politician clan?(ha) Da mn! That's one big rattler.

Ox

:nod:

Shaun · 06-06-2003, 07:45 AM

I still say the only good snake is a dead snake -- yes I know black snakes like we have here are harmless ( I shot two while they were mating in my front yard one morning). and that they keep the poisioness ones away but I don't want to take a chance at getting bit by something I can't recognize

05-26-2003, 05:31 PM	#1
Chris HMFIC Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,834,165 Images: 19 Blog Entries: 18	The G&G Admin Shoots in Neighborhood Well...here is a gun story about our own Jesse. My driveway is a bit long and on a hill, so Jesse pulled to the top of it. I started to walk out, when he noticed somethign moving along the weeds near a tree. He told me to come quick, yet slow. There was what looked like a copperhead with its head locked on Jesse. I quickly asked Jesse if he was carrying a piece...which is a no brainer...he checked his surroundings and then took less than 2 seconds shooting the snake's head off. The snake was approx. 3 feet long with some of the tightest muscles I have ever seen on a snake. He shot it with a Gov. Model 45, (he can give you better details), with a winchester cartridge....man the bullet started to dig a hole in the ground. Well I just have to say, very nice shooting today Jesse and and many thanks for taking care of this problem. __________________ Rules \| Contributing Members No one has the right to deny my personal safety Please be descriptive in your thread titles!

05-26-2003, 05:50 PM	#2
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,022 Blog Entries: 4	Does, "...it's head locked on Jesse..." mean that the snakes head and fangs were locked in, or that it was looking straight at Jessee ready to attack? Hope that it was just looking seriously at Jesse and that was all. Of course that's plenty for any person deal with in one day. Those copperheads are definitely poisonous and are aggressive. Good shooting Jesse. Thank God you were carrying. Hope your nerves are settled down enough to enjoy the rest of the day.(ha) Ox:nod: __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

05-26-2003, 06:36 PM	#3
Chris HMFIC Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,834,165 Images: 19 Blog Entries: 18	It was just looking at him...too far to attack...but I think after close examination it wasn't a copperhead. __________________ Rules \| Contributing Members No one has the right to deny my personal safety Please be descriptive in your thread titles!

05-26-2003, 07:08 PM	#4
toolman Mr. Fixit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: abilene,tx Posts: 5,566 Blog Entries: 22	Oh well, IMO the only good snake's a dead snake, good shootin' Jesse! __________________ Don't be messin' with my gun!

05-26-2003, 07:48 PM	#5
PAPA G Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 12	GLAD IT WORKED OUT thats why i don't go camping anymore, copperheads a plenty around here.

05-26-2003, 09:08 PM	#6
Jesse Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,945 Images: 2	Thanks guys! I don't normally go around shooting in people's front yards, but Chris insisted that the snake had to go... personally I thought it was a Cottonmouth Moccasin, a highly poisonous snake in our parts. He was in the shrubs around a tree to the right of Chris' driveway when I got out of my car and reared up at me when I got about 7-10 yards from him. He was extremely agressive, which fueled my thoughts of "moccasin!". The main thing I wanted to make sure of was that if I took a shot it would be safe. The snake just happened to be in the shrubs in front of a dirt mound when he reared up... Here's a link to the 1911 Colt Series 80 I shot him with... http://www.geocities.com/incrediheel/Colt80.html __________________ Jesse www.gunandgame.com

05-26-2003, 09:19 PM	#7
Calvin Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 1,996	Hopefully it wasn't any relative of Joe's..... __________________ I've gone to look for myself. If I should return before I get back, please ask me to wait.

05-26-2003, 10:46 PM	#8
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,043 Images: 3	You killed Uncle Slimey!!!!! __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

05-27-2003, 12:14 AM	#9
7mmag6 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 337 Images: 1	snakes are actually pretty good eatin, well at least rattlers are, send me the hide and ill make a nice belt for you

05-27-2003, 10:02 AM	#10
Klaus Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 2,383	Everyone keeps talking about how aggressive cottonmouths are, but I have NEVER seen an aggressive one. I have run into several copperheads that tried to bite me, but cottonmouth moccasins always try to flee from me. They are common here, north of Houston, but moccasin bites are very rare. People often get the snakes trapped in swimming pools after heavy rains. The Sheriff's department catches the snakes and the releases them in the woods. From what I have seen, cottonmouths are not aggressive, but very curious. If they see something unusual, especially in the water, they will check it out. This is not an attack. __________________ "Gee, Wally, Eddie Haskel's mom puts out!"

05-27-2003, 10:58 AM	#11
Jesse Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,945 Images: 2	Back in 1984, I saw a Cottonmouth swimming across a river. Logs and debris were scattered due to a storm. As he approached the first log in his path, he made contact with his nose, retracted and struck the log before going around it. I don't think they are overly agressive except when they are carrying their young. Regardless, one would do well to steer clear of them. What scares me is children getting bit by Cottonmouths, as well as Copperheads. My yard has TONS of snakes. We recently landscaped and in the period of 2 days, 11 snakes were killed. Of those 11, 3 were Cottonmouths and 2 were Copperheads. I plan on getting some King Snakes in the future to control the population of the poisonous variety in my yard. __________________ Jesse www.gunandgame.com

05-28-2003, 11:15 AM	#12
ltcboy Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Chicagoland area Posts: 496	When I was in in Ft Benning for infantry school and we were on manuevers. We were making our way thru a swamp and we camped out there for about three hours to get some rest. I was sleeping up against a lod when I felt something manuver across my legs and waist. I woke up to this and I discovered it was a water moccasin. I never had a scare like that before. To this day, I still get nightmares about that. Any time I see one now, I roll over them with my lawn mower. God I hate them. MIKe __________________ Up Bin Laden's ***!

05-28-2003, 03:28 PM	#13
Klaus Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 2,383	So, Itcboy, you are attacking creatures that did no harm to you because you were once scared by a non threatoning snake? That is a very Democrat thing to do. __________________ "Gee, Wally, Eddie Haskel's mom puts out!"

05-28-2003, 04:42 PM	#14
alan c. Banned Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pasadena,Tejas - also known as Texas Posts: 3,767 Images: 15	Cottonmouths are dangerous. They are common to the Houston-Pasadena area. I had one drop in a canoe from a low limb of a tree. He was very agressive -- darn near tipped the canoe over hitting him with a paddle.

05-28-2003, 05:57 PM	#15
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,022 Blog Entries: 4	Alan I had a similar experience once when fishing with a buddy using a flat bottom fishing boat. We'd tied it up to a low hanging limb along the shore and were fishing when we saw this moccasin heading for us aggressively. He made several attempts to climb up and over the side to get inside but we beat him off with our spare oar and untied so we could find what we considered a safer place to drink our beer.(ha) We were fishing at Table Rock Lake which is in southern Missouri nearly on the Arkansas border. Ox :nod: __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right". Last edited by Oxford; 05-29-2003 at 09:33 AM.

05-28-2003, 11:22 PM	#16
7mmag6 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 337 Images: 1	jesse check out this rattler i have never seen one this big its huge

05-29-2003, 09:49 AM	#17
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,022 Blog Entries: 4	7mmag6: Is that a lawyer snake? Or is it related to the politician clan?(ha) Da mn! That's one big rattler. Ox :nod: __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

06-06-2003, 07:45 AM	#18
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,592 Images: 1	I still say the only good snake is a dead snake -- yes I know black snakes like we have here are harmless ( I shot two while they were mating in my front yard one morning). and that they keep the poisioness ones away but I don't want to take a chance at getting bit by something I can't recognize __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/