Just can't wait...

Rave · 07-26-2003, 11:31 AM

President Bush has sent 2300 marines to the coast of Liberia,the mission is undefined,(apparently to save them from themselves.)

PAPA G · 07-26-2003, 02:22 PM

you know its not to start a soul food resturant!!!

Rufus Rhastus J · 07-31-2003, 10:23 AM

Well, my dear old, and, departed Pappy used to say (in referance to the Pan-am movement): "Give 'em two generations and they'll be eatin' each other"!

Lord Shrike · 07-31-2003, 10:39 AM

Now Now in all fairness they are siting on that ship and Bush said they ain't going no where until the ECOWAS force is assembled and ready to lead the way. Where supposedly just going to be there till the retards in the Blue hats can come in and try not to screw things up.

Rave · 07-31-2003, 10:46 AM

You got that right! We have heard this same line before!

Lord Shrike · 07-31-2003, 10:54 AM

Where?

Rave · 07-31-2003, 08:19 PM

Viet Nam

NRAJOE · 07-31-2003, 09:30 PM

PLEASE! Everyone get over 'Nam....everytime we go to war, people shake their heads and say, "Gee, its gonna be another Viet Nam"...there will be no more 'Nams. Anyway, we won the Viet Nam War, we just lost the peace.

08-01-2003, 08:41 AM

1. Its hard to "get over" something that left a bitter taste in the mouths of millions of people (that are still alive to remember what happened).

2. There may be many more 'Nams. What, you think our government is too smart to not do that again?

3. We did not win the Vietnam war. There is no such thing as North or South Vietnam. Why? Because we pulled out...i.e. lost!

Rufus Rhastus J · 08-01-2003, 08:45 AM

Hey Lenny, I know that's right. Been there, done that. Many live lost, nothing gained. I fear we plan to do it over again with this bunk in liberia or, possibly, korea. But the way, we lost there too! Now, the list continues to grow. We can add Afgan and iraq, wonder what country will be next.

Rave · 08-01-2003, 02:00 PM

We won in 'Nam????

NRAJOE · 08-01-2003, 03:51 PM

We had them on their heels after the Tet offensive...the hippie creeps and intellectuals and Politicians here in the states lost the war...not the men who served there. We never lost a major skirmish over there.

Stopper · 08-01-2003, 04:19 PM

I don't like the idea of going into Liberia. We have been conned into it - racist America won't help 'em - ex-slaves started the country and all that BS.

What's our interest in liberia anyhow? Keep'n the peace is the U.N.'s job to screw up. Let France and Germany send troops to be killed in that place.

Rave · 08-01-2003, 08:12 PM

"Those that ignore history are destined to repeat it!:nod:

Rufus Rhastus J · 08-02-2003, 07:46 AM

Stopper, another profound statement! We have nothing over ther that's worth one American life. Like all of Africa's recent history, they have been killing each other in the most brutal ways since time started! Imagine, death by machete! My God, those people, at least for the most part, are just savages. Let Mother nature do her work. The strong survive and the weak, well, they are food! After we leave they will just sharpen up thier machetes and go back to what is thier instinct!

Jay rh · 08-02-2003, 08:42 AM

I agree about repeating history. IF there is a good reason for US we can risk American lives. If you haven't, read Blackhawk Down. Many good men killed and wounded for what??? Jay

Rave · 08-03-2003, 12:51 AM

Yup,read the book and saw the movie.I think Liberia would be a thousand times worse!I swear,we never seem to learn from our mistakes!

7mmag6 · 08-03-2003, 01:36 AM

Oh Nam talk, I can tell you all you want about those dinks, joe is right we never lost a battle, tha SVA was to engauged in screwing thier mamasams and letting the fighting fall to grunts and ground pounders, dont get me going, the arvin lost the war, not us, those stinking yellow back cowards arvin lost that war, and put the blame on us, they could not fight thier way out of a paper bag, they were cowards, and got lots of our boys killed, dont get me going, dinky do, and im not a looser lenny, I dont want to talk about it, chris put a lock on this thread before I say something ill regret

08-03-2003, 10:25 AM

7mm,
I was not implying that any soldier was a loser. On the contrary. I know that our men fought well. But our government lost the war. They restricted the generals by using stupid rules and not giving them the resources to move forward and complete the job. Our government pulled out; therefore, we lost the war. I have the utmost respect for every American soldier that went to Vietnam, but that doesn't mean I'm willing to re-write history.

I am truly sorry if I offended you 7mm. I will not comment further on this thread.

oneastrix · 08-03-2003, 10:33 AM

My Dad, a Viet-Vet himself (LRRP), and I were talking about Liberia yesterday or the day before on the phone. We were talking about Mogidishu and the comparisons.

Blackhawk down was by far one of the best modern combat books I have ever read.

07-26-2003, 11:31 AM	#1
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 6,888	Just can't wait... President Bush has sent 2300 marines to the coast of Liberia,the mission is undefined,(apparently to save them from themselves.) __________________ USAF '62-'66 .

07-31-2003, 10:39 AM	#4
Lord Shrike Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: MOOOOOOOOOOO land also known as Wisconsin Posts: 1,103	Now Now in all fairness they are siting on that ship and Bush said they ain't going no where until the ECOWAS force is assembled and ready to lead the way. Where supposedly just going to be there till the retards in the Blue hats can come in and try not to screw things up. __________________ Taint nuthin a 12 gauge wont solve

07-31-2003, 10:46 AM	#5
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 6,888	You got that right! We have heard this same line before! __________________ USAF '62-'66 .

07-31-2003, 10:54 AM	#6
Lord Shrike Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: MOOOOOOOOOOO land also known as Wisconsin Posts: 1,103	Where? __________________ Taint nuthin a 12 gauge wont solve

07-31-2003, 08:19 PM	#7
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 6,888	Viet Nam __________________ USAF '62-'66 .

07-26-2003, 02:22 PM	#2
PAPA G Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 12	you know its not to start a soul food resturant!!!

07-31-2003, 10:23 AM	#3
Rufus Rhastus J Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: West, Central Florida, Third World America Posts: 6,339 Images: 1	Well, my dear old, and, departed Pappy used to say (in referance to the Pan-am movement): "Give 'em two generations and they'll be eatin' each other"!

07-31-2003, 09:30 PM	#8
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,052 Images: 3	PLEASE! Everyone get over 'Nam....everytime we go to war, people shake their heads and say, "Gee, its gonna be another Viet Nam"...there will be no more 'Nams. Anyway, we won the Viet Nam War, we just lost the peace. __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

08-01-2003, 08:41 AM	#9
Lenny2 Guest Posts: n/a	1. Its hard to "get over" something that left a bitter taste in the mouths of millions of people (that are still alive to remember what happened). 2. There may be many more 'Nams. What, you think our government is too smart to not do that again? 3. We did not win the Vietnam war. There is no such thing as North or South Vietnam. Why? Because we pulled out...i.e. lost!

08-01-2003, 08:45 AM	#10
Rufus Rhastus J Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: West, Central Florida, Third World America Posts: 6,339 Images: 1	Hey Lenny, I know that's right. Been there, done that. Many live lost, nothing gained. I fear we plan to do it over again with this bunk in liberia or, possibly, korea. But the way, we lost there too! Now, the list continues to grow. We can add Afgan and iraq, wonder what country will be next.

08-01-2003, 02:00 PM	#11
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 6,888	We won in 'Nam???? __________________ USAF '62-'66 .

08-01-2003, 03:51 PM	#12
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,052 Images: 3	We had them on their heels after the Tet offensive...the hippie creeps and intellectuals and Politicians here in the states lost the war...not the men who served there. We never lost a major skirmish over there. __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

08-01-2003, 04:19 PM	#13
Stopper Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansass Posts: 2,211 Images: 1	I don't like the idea of going into Liberia. We have been conned into it - racist America won't help 'em - ex-slaves started the country and all that BS. What's our interest in liberia anyhow? Keep'n the peace is the U.N.'s job to screw up. Let France and Germany send troops to be killed in that place. __________________ They should have stopped at "Congress shall make no law"

08-01-2003, 08:12 PM	#14
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 6,888	"Those that ignore history are destined to repeat it!:nod: __________________ USAF '62-'66 .

08-02-2003, 07:46 AM	#15
Rufus Rhastus J Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: West, Central Florida, Third World America Posts: 6,339 Images: 1	Stopper, another profound statement! We have nothing over ther that's worth one American life. Like all of Africa's recent history, they have been killing each other in the most brutal ways since time started! Imagine, death by machete! My God, those people, at least for the most part, are just savages. Let Mother nature do her work. The strong survive and the weak, well, they are food! After we leave they will just sharpen up thier machetes and go back to what is thier instinct!

08-02-2003, 08:42 AM	#16
Jay rh Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Raleigh NC Posts: 9	I agree about repeating history. IF there is a good reason for US we can risk American lives. If you haven't, read Blackhawk Down. Many good men killed and wounded for what??? Jay

08-03-2003, 12:51 AM	#17
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 6,888	Yup,read the book and saw the movie.I think Liberia would be a thousand times worse!I swear,we never seem to learn from our mistakes! __________________ USAF '62-'66 .

08-03-2003, 01:36 AM	#18
7mmag6 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 337 Images: 1	Oh Nam talk, I can tell you all you want about those dinks, joe is right we never lost a battle, tha SVA was to engauged in screwing thier mamasams and letting the fighting fall to grunts and ground pounders, dont get me going, the arvin lost the war, not us, those stinking yellow back cowards arvin lost that war, and put the blame on us, they could not fight thier way out of a paper bag, they were cowards, and got lots of our boys killed, dont get me going, dinky do, and im not a looser lenny, I dont want to talk about it, chris put a lock on this thread before I say something ill regret __________________ This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine

08-03-2003, 10:25 AM	#19
Lenny2 Guest Posts: n/a	7mm, I was not implying that any soldier was a loser. On the contrary. I know that our men fought well. But our government lost the war. They restricted the generals by using stupid rules and not giving them the resources to move forward and complete the job. Our government pulled out; therefore, we lost the war. I have the utmost respect for every American soldier that went to Vietnam, but that doesn't mean I'm willing to re-write history. I am truly sorry if I offended you 7mm. I will not comment further on this thread.

08-03-2003, 10:33 AM	#20
oneastrix Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 5,213	My Dad, a Viet-Vet himself (LRRP), and I were talking about Liberia yesterday or the day before on the phone. We were talking about Mogidishu and the comparisons. Blackhawk down was by far one of the best modern combat books I have ever read. __________________ There's no one more thankful to sit at the table, than the one who best remembers hunger's pain.