Old 08-14-2003, 07:00 PM   #1
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Troops in Iraq face pay cut
Pentagon says tough duty bonuses are budget-buster

Edward Epstein, Chronicle Washington Bureau Thursday, August 14, 2003

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Washington -- The Pentagon wants to cut the pay of its 148,000 U.S. troops in Iraq, who are already contending with guerrilla-style attacks, homesickness and 120- degree-plus heat.

Unless Congress and President Bush take quick action when Congress returns after Labor Day, the uniformed Americans in Iraq and the 9,000 in Afghanistan will lose a pay increase approved last April of $75 a month in "imminent danger pay" and $150 a month in "family separation allowances."

The Defense Department supports the cuts, saying its budget can't sustain the higher payments amid a host of other priorities. But the proposed cuts have stirred anger among military families and veterans' groups and even prompted an editorial attack in the Army Times, a weekly newspaper for military personnel and their families that is seldom so outspoken.

Congress made the April pay increases retroactive to Oct. 1, 2002, but they are set to expire when the federal fiscal year ends Sept. 30 unless Congress votes to keep them as part of its annual defense appropriations legislation.

Imminent danger pay, given to Army, Navy, Marine and Air Force members in combat zones, was raised to $225 from $150 a month. The family separation allowance, which goes to help military families pay rent, child care or other expenses while soldiers are away, was raised from $100 a month to $250.

Last month, the Pentagon sent Congress an interim budget report saying the extra $225 monthly for the two pay categories was costing about $25 million more a month, or $300 million for a full year. In its "appeals package" laying out its requests for cuts in pending congressional spending legislation, Pentagon officials recommended returning to the old, lower rates of special pay and said military experts would study the question of combat pay in coming months.


WHITE HOUSE DUCKS ISSUE
A White House spokesman referred questions about the administration's view on the pay cut to the Pentagon report.

Military families have started hearing about the looming pay reductions, and many aren't happy.

They say duty in Iraq is dangerous -- 60 Americans have died in combat- related incidents since President Bush declared an end to major combat operations in Iraq on May 1. Another 69 have been killed by disease, the heat or in accidents.

"Every person they see is a threat. They have no idea who is an enemy or who is a friend," said Larry Syverson, 54, of Richmond, Va., whose two sons, Brandon, 31, and Bryce, 25, are serving in Iraq. Syverson appeared with other military families at a Washington, D.C., news conference to publicize efforts to bring the troops home.

"You can get shot in the head when you go to buy a Coke," added Syverson, referring to an incident at a Baghdad University cafeteria on July 6 when an Army sergeant was shot and killed after buying a soda.


AFRAID FOR HER SON
Susan Schuman of Shelburne Falls, Mass., said her son, Army National Guard Sgt. Justin Schuman, had told her "it's really scary" serving in Samarra, a town about 20 miles from Saddam Hussein's ancestral hometown of Tikrit.

Schuman, who like Syverson has become active in a group of military families that want service personnel pulled out of Iraq, said the pay cut possibility didn't surprise her.

"It's all part of the lie of the Bush administration, that they say they support our troops," she said.

It's rare for the independent Army Times, which is distributed widely among Army personnel, to blast the Pentagon, the White House and the Congress. But in this instance, the paper has said in recent editorials that Congress was wrong to make the pay raises temporary, and the Pentagon is wrong to call for a rollback.

"The bottom line: If the Bush administration felt in April that conditions in Iraq and Afghanistan warranted increases in danger pay and family separation allowances, it cannot plausibly argue that the higher rates are not still warranted today," the paper said in an editorial in its current edition.

On Capitol Hill, members say the issue will be taken up quickly after the summer recess when a conference committee meets to negotiate conflicting versions of the $369 billion defense appropriations bill.

"You can't put a price tag on their service and sacrifice, but one of the priorities of this bill has got to be ensuring our servicemen and women in imminent danger are compensated for it," said Rep. Ellen Tauscher, D-Walnut Creek, a member of the House Armed Services Committee.

"Since President Bush declared 'mission accomplished' on May 1, 126 American soldiers have died in Iraq, and we are losing more every day," Tauscher said. "If that's not imminent danger, I don't know what is."

The Senate bill calls for making permanent the increases in combat pay -- the first in more than a decade -- for service in Iraq and Afghanistan. The House wants to pay more for service in those two countries than for such duties as peacekeeping in the Balkans. With the money saved, the House wants to increase the size of the active military by 6,200 troops.

What won't be clear until Congress returns is whether the Pentagon will lobby against keeping the increase.

The Pentagon reiterated Wednesday that its goal was for service personnel to rotate out of Iraq after a maximum of a year in that country. Units of the Army's 3rd Infantry Division, which played a major role in last March's invasion, have already come home.



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By the numbers
U.S. troops in Iraq: 148,000

U.S. troops in Afghanistan: 9,000

Imminent danger pay: $225 per month, but is scheduled to drop to $150 a month

Family separation allowances: $250 per month, but scheduled to drop to $100 per month

E-mail Edward Epstein at eepstein@sfchronicle.com.
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Old 08-14-2003, 08:27 PM   #2
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The pay is tax exempt too. They will probably revoke that as well.
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Old 08-15-2003, 01:16 AM   #3
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Here is a stupid idea!

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Ya lets cut the GI's pay. No let's not dock the fat *** Bureaucrats pay, let's not take some of the millions away from the lazy bastages in the Senate or House! God forbid!
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Old 08-15-2003, 01:49 PM   #4
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Yeah,they don't mind sending our troops off on these wild goose chases(war on terrorism),but now they want to cut their legs out from under them cause it's a budget buster,man we haven't even got started yet on that war and they are reneging already,even Herr Klinton had better sense than that!
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Old 08-15-2003, 02:25 PM   #5
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Oh c'mon...their just getting shot at all the time and could get killed by some radical towelhead...what more do they want? :full: :nod:
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Old 08-15-2003, 02:27 PM   #6
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Ya JOE's Right...they have time to hang out away from the wife and kids...shoot guns (and dont even have to pay for the ammo)....I think the should send every other paycheck to a congress member who is stuck in the hi cost of liveing area of DC trying to make ends meet
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Again I will reference my idea for a washington congressman party!
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Old 08-15-2003, 03:11 PM   #8
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Blanket party???
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Old 08-15-2003, 03:15 PM   #9
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No we need to charge our replace our milatary trooms with congress criters...senators....mayors and govanors......then charge them goverment types room/board...travle....and put them on a post and say they cant have a rifle until their background check comes back.

Off Iraq citizens $50 per congress critter they kill
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Old 08-15-2003, 11:15 PM   #10
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i think we been lied to enough by bush .he lied to us to get us in this war now he is puting us in so much dept that we can't even pay our own soldiers in the field. tax cuts and war spending .well war spending ain't bad but when you spend it on a war with some one that was not a threat to you in the first place i think that is waisted money . he stood before us on tv and said all this stuff about the weapons and how much it will cost now look .we haven't found any weapons and the cost went from 90 billion to 600 billion with no end in sight so we really can't put a total on it .at all this money is for a guy who really couldn't do anything to us they had other people we could have gone after
like we could have put alittle more effort into finding osama.
to me bush is a lier and nuthin but a lier.and he should answer for it.

we have soldiers dieing over there and they want to cut thier pay now.thats a big slap in the face.maybe we wouldn't have to be thinkin about cutting pay if he would watch how he spends money
bush tends to throw money around like it's nuthin tax cuts here .send a few million to this country and a few million to that country.start a war here and start a war there .next thing you know we broke. but i bet he got his nice bank accout to retire to
i think all former pres. get a nice pay check from the goverment for the rest of thier life just for being pres. could be wrong
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Old 08-16-2003, 12:38 AM   #11
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yep down right shetty !
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