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Old 08-26-2003, 11:22 PM   #1
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what do y'all think of more taxes like this ?

http://www.betteralabama.org/news.shtml

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Old 08-26-2003, 11:54 PM   #2
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Angry I THINK YOUR SCREWED!!!

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Old 08-27-2003, 12:55 PM   #3
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Old 08-27-2003, 07:37 PM   #4
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The article was a bit "Busy" to follow. But dosen't sound unlike the typical thing going around nowadays.

Too bad more voters don't read this stuff.
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Old 08-27-2003, 08:16 PM   #5
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MAYBE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS BATTLE

was just to provide cover and concealment for the tax!!!
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Old 08-27-2003, 08:21 PM   #6
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My son is doing his history homework (fresman yr high) he says taxes started around 3000 BC, the copper age. Priest and rulers were the most powerfull.

Hmmm. not much has changed, Eh?
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Yes. They were ruthless and hated then and nothing has changed now except their methods.:nod:

Hey you young guys...I'm an old geezer but not that old! I read about their system in one of my history classes, too.

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I'm having fun with my son's history class. I get to brush up & he gets quized at the same time.
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Old 08-28-2003, 10:14 AM   #9
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Jerry, you're not only studying history...you're making history. Hope your boy appreciates what you've been doing.:nod:
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I don't know Ox,
When I was gone Mom (my wife) had a lot of issues. There were things I asked to get done that didn't. Mainly help Mom. Iv'e tried to explain the sacrifices made without sounding self rightous about it, but can't seen to get through. People tell me he's a typical 15 year old. I have a hard time buying that. I am still gathering up rusted, mistreated tools from all around the house or yard. Some I made him clean and lube, some just need replaced. My Camillus AF survival knife I carried in Korea to cut pilots out of thier straps in the event thier aircraft caught fire ended up in the back yard rusted. (I never even cut anything with it) It's not just about material things, but about attitude. I love my son, but today's youth is severely out of touch. This exempts a few individuals who will become Eagle Scouts, Valedictorians, etc... I get to listen to plenty of thier stories.

The rumor now is we go back out at the end of Sep. (for another 6 mo.)This worries me sick. My job is probably allready gone and my family life is in shambles. Were keeping it together but it's not easy or fun. Gosh, I'm babbling! Not good, need to buck it up and press on.

Sorry to vent, but I'm only human.

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Old 08-28-2003, 10:53 PM   #11
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i think he's about normal as far as i can see. of course he needs to grow up and be the man in your abscence. is there an Uncle or any older man in the family that could give him direction and guidance when your away???
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my brother helped out a lot, but he lives in the next town over and has a pretty busy life. the kid has a heart of gold, but needs to accept a bit more responsibility. This means not only helping to pull the load, but stopping the silly crap like lying about things he gets busted at. reckon I'll just have to hope for the best.
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Jerry: You're in a tough situation. Trying to do the responsible thing in the reserves, trying to keep moma happy, trying to be a father when you have to be away so much. I don't know the answer for sure.

In WWII my dad was away on Navy duty while my mom tried to raise us three kids, ages 4,5,&6 at the start of 1942. When he came back on leave, which was very seldom, he seemed like a stranger. After his discharge in '45 our family tried to carry on. This caused some tensions between mom and dad because of the changing roles they faced in our family. Dad always seemed very strict from that point on, wouldn't tolerate much, and as a result our relationship wasn't close till after I left home at 17 yrs old and moved into adulthood. Then I began to understand what he'd been through, what effects it had on his personality, and this caused me to become much more understanding of who he was.

As the years rolled by I learned more and more about him changed my attitude about him from an almost dislike to one of pride in what he stood for and had gone through. Wish I had been more tolerant of him when I was a teenager. Didn't happen though. We tangled constantly. We didn't give up, though, and kept on working on our relationship. In his final years I had changed my viewpoints 100% to the point that I can honestly say that I was proud of who he was, what he had done and how he had tried to raise us three kids.

Found out that I needed to be more patient with my own kids, not give up on them when they didn't do as I thought they should do, and eventually, in adulthood, they have shown that they absorbed and believed more of what I hoped they would learn about living than I would ever have thought possible.

Here's what I learned...be patient with your kids, develop an understanding of what they need and want, and don't waiver from your beliefs. In the end your kids will likely reflect most of both you and your wife's beliefs.

Jerry...sorry about sounding preachy...didn't know how else to say it.

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Words of wisdom Ox,
Sorry about getting off on a tangent on LD's taxes post. I share pretty much the same views you do on the subject. My wife is having the harder time with it than I am. I can handle the boy. It hurts me to see the deterioration of my wifes will to keep trying to fight the situation. I can give a pep talk and offer advice, but when it comes down to it, I'm not there.

I'm glad you and your dad eventually became close.
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welcome to the world of teenagers jerry hhehehe
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Old 08-29-2003, 11:33 PM   #16
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Just kidding jerry, I cant believe they will send you back, its not military doctrine to pull some one out of combat, and send them back in, you did your hitch, ill be very surprised if you go back, if you do id be very pissed, the family situation, these kind of things are normal for folks that have been away in stressful situations, the spouses feel more stress than you do when you are placed in a combat zone, been there done that,that also plays upon the mind of your kids, be gentle and understanding, that knife doesnt mean that much in the overall scheme of things, or rusted tools, it dont mean nothing not a dam thing, the health and well bieng of your family comes first--7mmag
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Old 08-30-2003, 08:25 PM   #17
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I want to vote No because of how much more I will have to pay (delays my retirement) but I also want to vote Yes because of our Public Schools...
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LogansDad...:right: I'm with you 100% on that statement. I hate taxes! Our forefathers hated taxes! And I'm sure you hate taxes! I've paid my fair share of taxes and I've spent plenty of tax revenue in my former career.

Many times our legislators and governmental agencies have been unfair in who they taxed and how much they taxed. However, I believe that the majority of our citizens want public services which are paid for out of taxes. And they have a right to expect an efficiently run government spending unit.

The problem is that too many things like fraud, poor spending habits, poor planning, over budgeting, and poor credibility have soured people who normally support worthwhile needs.

As you know, I was once part of that beauracy in public education. I tried my best to be accountable for all spending, but there were too many people who could block my best efforts at times.:nod:
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one of the reasons they cite for wanting to raise taxes was mismanagement of funds by previous administrations.
what really kills it for me though is a little bomb hidden in it where 30 years from now when I project my house to have been paid off for 16 years. if it could rent for $2500 (arbitrary amount pulled out of the ether) a month I will have to pay taxes on that amount
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I think anyone that votes for more taxes is an idiot! We will have far too many taxes forced on us soon enough to satisfy the idiots craving to let gummint run their life with out asking for it!
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