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Old 08-31-2003, 11:25 AM   #21
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It is becoming more and more obvious that the rest of the world takes priority over the simpleminded taxpaying citizens of this country.
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Old 08-31-2003, 11:33 AM   #22
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yea it sure does Rave.:nod:
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Old 08-31-2003, 09:01 PM   #23
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LOL,just remember this, When Clinton lied, nobody died.
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Old 08-31-2003, 10:55 PM   #24
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yea tell me about it we just had to pay a dry cleaning bill . take that back she didn't even get the dress cleaned.

hell we could have taken some of that money from the war in iraq and put up a double fence with about a 6 hundred yard clearance and then put up sniper towers where ever the sniper's felt they could take accurate shots .give them one warning shot and then the next one is a kill shot .put up warning signs on the fence writin in spanish so there would be no exscuses as to why they was in that zone of U.S.A land. sounds like a good border to me.
make it a military taining area being we are fighting most of our battles in the desert why not train there.and while we are trianing there we are protecting our border.make the whole border a live fire zone for the military.let them train out there.
what about that idea.or would that cost to much?

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Old 09-01-2003, 08:43 PM   #25
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There have been so many dumb things said here I don't even now where to start. I guess I will just sum things up from the begining again. Why did we care about the middle east? Well for one thing yah there is a buttload of oil over there. We need oil even if we all got little hybid pieces of **** that got 70 miles to the gallon and explored and drilled our land to death we would still need there oil. Without it we would suffer a total economic collapse. So yes what happens there does affect us in the most basic of ways. Next up why did we go to Iraq? Well after 9/11 and after wompin on the Talaban we uncovered documents that indicated they were seeking significant amount of Chemical, Biological, and Nuclear materilials for even more dreaded weapons and devastating attacks. Well who did we know that had those weapons, used em before, hated us and refused to disarm............................. Thats right Saddam Insanes Iraq. We had all seen what the wait till they attack us approach that Clinton cherished so much got us(9/11) so Bush and company wisely decided thats enough of that shite. Iraq was allready in violation of numerous U.N. Resolutions regarding his weapons. All we did was ask the UN to enforce there resolutions. At anytime during those months leading up to the War if Saddam would have said hey you win here they are destroy em or showed us that they were destroyed and let as many inspectors in as needed to verify that there would have been no war. He didn't, he clearly had something to hide, something we could not afford to let slip into the hands of terroists. We have found numerous peices of evedence supporting that there was infact a weapons program still functioning in Iraq. We have found mobile labs, artilery shells equiped to deliver wmd, uranium pureification equipment, samples of nerve agents, traces of mustard gas and sarin in the Tigris River. Than there were all those bio/chem warsuits we found as we overan Iraqi lines why were those there? All these things get ignored by the mainstream press because of there hatred for GWB and the GOP. They are on a obvious mission to discredit him anyway possible so no I don't waste my time listening to or watching liars. I watch Fox News and get my internet news form World Net Daily. There are way more informative than anything CBS, NBC, ABC or CNN puts out there. As for the blackout do you have any proof I mean any, a shred of proof that would suggest that it was a terroist attack? I am unaware of any such evedence. I'm still not sorry about calling you a nimrod either. Your comment about the blackout is still retarded. Last time I checked there are plenty of big cities in the south to. While a blackout in Winter wouldn't be so bad in Atlanta or New Orleans I bet one in the midddle of summer would really suck. You like to taunt me and rile me with statements like that and than through your hands up when I fire back. I got the inference that since I was a northerner I would be screwed since were all just helpless city folk. You can claim otherwise but I think your full of crap anyways so I don't really care. Your shot at me about siging up for the military was just as juvinile. I have a wife who I am obligated to and who didn't enter her marriage with me with the expectations that the military was in my future. If I was single when 9/11 happened I think there is a very good chance I would be in uniform right now. If things get bad enough that we need a draft thats a diferent situation until that happens I know my priorities and responsibilities. You can hide behind your disability and throw stones all you want but thats what your doing hiding. As for your ideas of closing off the border. You really think that we could build a 6 foot fence all the way along the 2000 some odd mile long border with Mexico and the 4000 some odd mile long border with Canada and man it sufficently year round? And you think the war with Iraq is expensive yikes man now that would be expensive. Not to mention it leaves out all the coastal land of the US. I mean wouldn't be to hard to take a boat in either would it? The best weapons we have against another 9/11 is good intel, good security at likely targets, good law enforcement and a good counter offensive in there backyard. In closing I have repeatedly looked up and posted articles and stats to back me up on all of my arguments. With the occasional exception of Lenny I have yet to see anyone else who is critical of my stances be able to do the same. All I get is abunch of rederick. No stats, no numbers, nuthin just abunch of armchair generalin. I have done my darndest to be restrained Tommy but after your last few comments I'm done tryin. Someone may wanna lock this thread before things get real ugly because if you think I have been mean and rude in the past you ain't seen nuthin!
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Old 09-01-2003, 11:46 PM   #26
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we still ain't found no wmd's in iraq yet .!!!!! case closed
my point proved.and until he finds something to bad.

you said we uncovered documents about them (trying) to buy these chemicals and nuclear material to use against us . well what arab country ain't trying to buy some of it.and the nuclear ducuments turned out to be false.so i wonder what else is false.

and why do you have to get so madd when people don't see thing's you'er way huh?this war was based on false statements that is why i'm against it !!!!and that's why alot of americans are against it because of the same reason.we just want the trueth. what's wrong with that huh?just think if they find blair guilty .they gonna come after bush next!!and if he did lie to the people he should pay for it.

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Old 09-02-2003, 11:51 AM   #27
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:target: Yup! I don't care about them camal ridin', rag warein', foul smellin' third worlders! Let's get America back to her rightful place in the world! TOP DOG!!!:nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:
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Old 09-02-2003, 03:59 PM   #28
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and i ain't hiding behind my disability .i have a real disability.
but all you have to say for you'er self is you'er married well duh!!
alot of them soldiers over there are married too and they have kids. and they are over there not here .married is not a disablity . that's just an escuse not to go.. lmao. and with that i'm out of here. have fun!!!
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