about guns...didn't care anything about them..and only wanted one to defend yourself and your family...what advise would you want to hear ?...and what would you want to end up getting ? :nod:
If I didn't know anything about guns how would I know what advice I would want to hear?
If I didn't care about guns how do I know what I would want to end up getting? :insane:
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Originally posted by Tc300mag1 probley a 1911 45 they been around for ever or a 357 mag in either a smith ot ruger
I would never recommend the 1911A1 which is difficult to fieldstrip...not to mention a sidearm that needs so much gunsmithing before it will reliably feed hollowpoints
hum i never had a problem fiield stripping one .and the supposingly needing so much work to make them reliable never had a problem with my 2 and no they werent the top $$ kimbers either ..my first was a plain jane colt and never had any probs with it
I am led to believe that the "didn't know anything....didn't care about them......" statement means that I was just not gun savy and didn't want to be.....I would recommend pepper spray to such a person.
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OK,
Off the original subject. I can field strip a 1911, at least have the slide off just as fast if not faster than just about any auto loader. (with ease) Oh, about 2 seconds. If ya want to know how I can tell ya. Otherwise I'll be wasting typing time. It takes more effort to figure out how to program the average VCR.
Originally posted by Tc300mag1 hum i never had a problem fiield stripping one .and the supposingly needing so much work to make them reliable never had a problem with my 2 and no they werent the top $$ kimbers either ..my first was a plain jane colt and never had any probs with it
still not the best choice for a beginner...I'm not a beginner and I still wouldn't have one.:nod:
Given the stated limitations - no gun knowledge and no desire or care about them - I'd probably let the clerk sell me a Glock or some such.
Knowing what I do know, I'll stick with my Colt 1991A1 - easy field stripping and dead reliable, even with hollow-points.
Seventy plus years of military service has proven the design.
Taking a 1911/1911A1 apart is easy. Getting them back together is much more difficult and time-consuming than many other semi-autos. I've owned a 1911A1 for a number of years, and you won't convince me otherwise.
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Originally posted by jerry OK,
Off the original subject. I can field strip a 1911, at least have the slide off just as fast if not faster than just about any auto loader. (with ease) Oh, about 2 seconds. If ya want to know how I can tell ya. Otherwise I'll be wasting typing time. It takes more effort to figure out how to program the average VCR.
most people aren't combat veterans....you're kinda overqualified ! :nod:
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ok guys we all know by now that I'm gona say a 1911 right. well not this time.
we get alot of first time gun buyers in the shop and the story is just like posted here know nothing don't care about anything but will I be able to defend myself with it.
we end up showing them how a gun works, you know basic firearms 101 we call it.
after all is said and done we know they heard only half and will reatin maybe one third on a good day, if they have kids we sell them a revolver with 38 special +P federal hydroshocks, if no kids they get the glock in 9mm same federal hydroshocks.
less recoil so they won't be scared of it if they ever practice with it and still stoping power in close quarters. both simple to use and maintain.
as for the coments on 1911's I'm not even gona bother anymore we all know they are the best handgun out there in the best caliber. but some guys will just find any reason to put something down no matter how good it is or how long its been unchanged becuase it doesn't need to be.
logansdad
just has a hard on for putting the 1911 down, its no use trying to change his mind.
but in this case I agree with him its not a first timers gun(even if it was mine) most first times can't handle it and yes they are more dificult to strip than a glock.
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OK,
I appologize. I may have gotten a bit over zealous. The 1911 may not be the "perfect" pistol for the beginner. I'm flattered logansdad, but I only have combat experience turning wrenches. I came in in '84 so technically I missed the 1911 militarily by 1 yr., if I had to qualify on a sidearm as a primary or secondary duty weapon.
The gun is still easy to field strip IMO. Mabe not harder just different.
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I can still strip it and reassemble blindfolded, (just tried it to be sure.)
but like it has been said Its not a beginers gun.
by the way JERRY I can still do the 1911 and the M16 take down and reassemble in under a min.(not blindfolded)
you never lose it budy, but only us vets had someone screaming down our necks to get us to do it in the first place. and someone has to turn them wrenches so keep up the good work and keep em runnin.
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"If guns cause crime, all of mine are defective."
- Ted Nugent
"Self-defense is Nature's eldest law."
-John Dryden
if you didn't know anything 
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Local dealer has a Weatherby Mark V with Weatherby scope in 270 Weatherby magnum for $1025 and I want it, so I guess I know nothing. 
