fair trade ???

tommy · 09-28-2003, 07:16 PM

i am looking to trade this gun for a .243 or a .308 i was wondering what would be a good deal to ask for .it's a remington model 700 30.06 with a busnel 3x9x40 scope. the gun shoots great just kickes to hard for the kids .or i would like to go to the gun shop and sell it out right but was wondering what you guy's would ask for if it was you'er gun.

tommy · 09-28-2003, 07:18 PM

another view

tommy · 09-28-2003, 07:19 PM

last one

BattleRifleG3 · 09-28-2003, 09:19 PM

Just a thought, maybe I'm wrong, but I think you'd be better off separating out the scope and putting it on your next rifle, since you're used to it and it'll work as well on the next rifle, while if someone wants a different scope they wouldn't want to pay for yours. Savages can be had new for the mid 300s, Rems are a lil higher, say the higher Rem value compensates for used depreciation and guess $300-350? If you sell to a dealer, he has to consider what people will buy it for, then subtract from that to have a markup that keeps him in business.

tommy · 09-28-2003, 09:47 PM

it's my brother's gun he dropped it off to me today and asked me to sell it or trade it for a .243 or .308 . i asked him if i was to sell it what would he want me to give him for it he said 250 dolldar's with the scope and all.but if i trade or sell it i will take the scope off and keep it for myself and sell the gun for 250 i guess.but he really wants a .243 for trade.what would be a good brand.or would a .308 be less kick ?a kid will be shooting this gun in fack a 12 year old girl

Oxford · 09-28-2003, 10:41 PM

Tommy,

Don't know your answer, but just wanted to make a comment about your gun.

I spent all afternoon shooting one exactly like the one you've shown...Rem 700,BDL, in 30-06 except mine has a Leupold 3x9x40 scope and both were "new out of the box" before today's initiation. Today was the maiden voyage for this baby. Been waiting for several months for the right chance to zero in the sights after Cabelas gunsmith bore-sighted it in the store.

And yes, I have to admit there's some kick in this beauty but I enjoyed every time the target got peppered a little closer to the bulls eye. Finally got it set just right for some unsuspecting deer which I plan to harvest :assult:
in mid December.

I wouldn't trade my Rem 700 for anything. :nod: However good luck in your attempt to selling it. I can understand why your brother may want a different gun for a 12 yr old marksman.

BattleRifleG3 · 09-28-2003, 10:57 PM

The Savage bolt actions with detachable and internal magazines are well priced and known for their accuracy. 308 and 243 have many models available. My gut suggestion is to go for the detachable mag, so you can keep a couple loaded and ready to put in without having the gun loaded. Also you can unload the gun instantly without feeding the cartridges out one by one. It can still be loaded from the top for those who wish to do so. I think it's pretty neat, as it releases by a button on the side of the stock. A friend of mine has one, and it's a very nice gun. That 3-9x40 scope should work nicely on it. Rings can be found affordably.

whirlwind · 09-28-2003, 11:06 PM

250-300 depending on the bore and how smooth the action still is

tommy · 09-28-2003, 11:07 PM

thanks will look for one tomorrow .i'll let you guy's know how it go's.i wouldn't mind buying the gun but i can't shoot it .

. not with my neck

7mmag6 · 09-28-2003, 11:23 PM

I thought that was an adl at first glance, but it is a bdl but somebody removed the protective cap from the end of the stock, the furniture is weathered and a bit dinged up, my guess is about 200 bucks

7mmag6 · 09-28-2003, 11:39 PM

I also agree with battle rifle about the scope, it will not add much to the value of the rifle, thats a good scope keep it, just looking at it, it seems to have a hard life, if the bore is shiny, and the bolt unpitted you could bring about 200 bucks for it

Rufus Rhastus J · 09-29-2003, 08:13 AM

I agree, the gun is worth around 400. I'd give brother the 250 and add it to my collection. I know it's recoil is a bit stiff but, hey what do you expect? There is a conversion, which I have for my Springfield'07 (Remington made). It is reported to work just fine in bolt actions but, autos are unknown. It is a collor which is place in the chamber and a 308 is shoved in behind it. After the first shot, should you want to remove it, a broken shell extractor is supposed to work. I have not installed the conversion but, my goal was to have the ability to use 308 if 30-06 was not available. Just little ole paranoid me. :nod:

tommy · 09-29-2003, 10:32 AM

what's a adl and a bdl??

BattleRifleG3 · 09-29-2003, 10:37 AM

BDL has a hinged floorplate on the bottom. ADL is totally internal, with the wood stock reaching beneath the action.

Right?

Oxford · 09-29-2003, 11:43 AM

...and a little more. The BDL, considered by some people to be the premium model, has checkering on the solid walnut butt and fore stock, has a white laminate stripe on the front end of the forestock with a black capped plastic end, as well as what you've previously mentioned.

I've never seen the BDL with anything but solid walnut butt and forestock as compared to the synthetic material. Some ADL's have walnut appearing butt and fore stock but may actually be a laminate. And, the BDL has a breech release hinge on the bottom of the receiver for quick removal of cartridges.

As far as function, there's no reason that an ADL wouldn't be equal to the BDL. In fact, the synthetic materials used on the ADL for the butt and forestock should be better for absorbing the rougher uses encountered while hunting.

jerry · 09-29-2003, 11:57 AM

Model 7 in 7mm-08
Would be my personal recomendation for the youngster.

http://www.remington.com/firearms/youth/m7youth.htm

Don't let the list price scare ya too bad, that's is normally the very high end. I soppose 243 would be the 2nd choice for caliber.

BattleRifleG3 · 09-29-2003, 01:35 PM

Here are a few Savages, which would be my recommendation:

The 11F, full sized, synthetic stock:

The 11FC, full sized, synthetic stock, and detachable magazine:

The 11G, full sized, wood stock:

The 16FSS, full sized, synth stock, stainless steel:

The 16BSS, full sized, wood stock, stainless steel:

And the 10GY, wood stocked youth model:

All are available in 243 and 308. If you decide to let the old scope go, you can get a package with a scope and no iron sites. Not my taste though. My thoughts are if you want ammo variety and the ability to use cheap stuff, and she can take the recoil comfortably, use 308. If you plan to use only regular factory ammo, like sticking to a certain Remington load, 243 is fine, sufficient for a lot of game, as affordable as most calibers, low recoil, and straight shooting (lower drop due to higher velocity).

BattleRifleG3 · 09-29-2003, 01:38 PM

MSRP is $436 to $668. I got the 111G, whose MSRP is $436, for $385 or so out the door.

tommy · 09-29-2003, 02:56 PM

really good lookin guns right there .gonna try to sell it out right then go lookin for a new one for my brother .

thanks for the info on the adl and the bdl. would have never new that.

09-28-2003, 09:19 PM	#4
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	Just a thought, maybe I'm wrong, but I think you'd be better off separating out the scope and putting it on your next rifle, since you're used to it and it'll work as well on the next rifle, while if someone wants a different scope they wouldn't want to pay for yours. Savages can be had new for the mid 300s, Rems are a lil higher, say the higher Rem value compensates for used depreciation and guess $300-350? If you sell to a dealer, he has to consider what people will buy it for, then subtract from that to have a markup that keeps him in business. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

09-28-2003, 10:41 PM	#6
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,023 Blog Entries: 4	Tommy, Don't know your answer, but just wanted to make a comment about your gun. I spent all afternoon shooting one exactly like the one you've shown...Rem 700,BDL, in 30-06 except mine has a Leupold 3x9x40 scope and both were "new out of the box" before today's initiation. Today was the maiden voyage for this baby. Been waiting for several months for the right chance to zero in the sights after Cabelas gunsmith bore-sighted it in the store. And yes, I have to admit there's some kick in this beauty but I enjoyed every time the target got peppered a little closer to the bulls eye. Finally got it set just right for some unsuspecting deer which I plan to harvest :assult: in mid December. I wouldn't trade my Rem 700 for anything. :nod: However good luck in your attempt to selling it. I can understand why your brother may want a different gun for a 12 yr old marksman. __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

09-28-2003, 10:57 PM	#7
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	The Savage bolt actions with detachable and internal magazines are well priced and known for their accuracy. 308 and 243 have many models available. My gut suggestion is to go for the detachable mag, so you can keep a couple loaded and ready to put in without having the gun loaded. Also you can unload the gun instantly without feeding the cartridges out one by one. It can still be loaded from the top for those who wish to do so. I think it's pretty neat, as it releases by a button on the side of the stock. A friend of mine has one, and it's a very nice gun. That 3-9x40 scope should work nicely on it. Rings can be found affordably. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

09-28-2003, 11:06 PM	#8
whirlwind Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: oklahoma Posts: 3,737 Images: 1	250-300 depending on the bore and how smooth the action still is __________________ De oppresso liber !

09-28-2003, 11:23 PM	#10
7mmag6 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 337 Images: 1	I thought that was an adl at first glance, but it is a bdl but somebody removed the protective cap from the end of the stock, the furniture is weathered and a bit dinged up, my guess is about 200 bucks __________________ This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine Last edited by 7mmag6; 09-28-2003 at 11:28 PM.

09-28-2003, 09:47 PM	#5
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 4,027 Images: 6	it's my brother's gun he dropped it off to me today and asked me to sell it or trade it for a .243 or .308 . i asked him if i was to sell it what would he want me to give him for it he said 250 dolldar's with the scope and all.but if i trade or sell it i will take the scope off and keep it for myself and sell the gun for 250 i guess.but he really wants a .243 for trade.what would be a good brand.or would a .308 be less kick ?a kid will be shooting this gun in fack a 12 year old girl

09-28-2003, 11:07 PM	#9
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 4,027 Images: 6	thanks will look for one tomorrow .i'll let you guy's know how it go's.i wouldn't mind buying the gun but i can't shoot it . . not with my neck

09-28-2003, 11:39 PM	#11
7mmag6 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 337 Images: 1	I also agree with battle rifle about the scope, it will not add much to the value of the rifle, thats a good scope keep it, just looking at it, it seems to have a hard life, if the bore is shiny, and the bolt unpitted you could bring about 200 bucks for it __________________ This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine

09-29-2003, 08:13 AM	#12
Rufus Rhastus J Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: West, Central Florida, Third World America Posts: 6,339 Images: 1	Very nice toy! I agree, the gun is worth around 400. I'd give brother the 250 and add it to my collection. I know it's recoil is a bit stiff but, hey what do you expect? There is a conversion, which I have for my Springfield'07 (Remington made). It is reported to work just fine in bolt actions but, autos are unknown. It is a collor which is place in the chamber and a 308 is shoved in behind it. After the first shot, should you want to remove it, a broken shell extractor is supposed to work. I have not installed the conversion but, my goal was to have the ability to use 308 if 30-06 was not available. Just little ole paranoid me. :nod: __________________ "They cannot be trusted.....The Romulans (our politicos) are without honor." Worf

09-29-2003, 10:32 AM	#13
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 4,027 Images: 6	what's a adl and a bdl??

09-29-2003, 10:37 AM	#14
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	BDL has a hinged floorplate on the bottom. ADL is totally internal, with the wood stock reaching beneath the action. Right? __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

09-29-2003, 11:43 AM	#15
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,023 Blog Entries: 4	...and a little more. The BDL, considered by some people to be the premium model, has checkering on the solid walnut butt and fore stock, has a white laminate stripe on the front end of the forestock with a black capped plastic end, as well as what you've previously mentioned. I've never seen the BDL with anything but solid walnut butt and forestock as compared to the synthetic material. Some ADL's have walnut appearing butt and fore stock but may actually be a laminate. And, the BDL has a breech release hinge on the bottom of the receiver for quick removal of cartridges. As far as function, there's no reason that an ADL wouldn't be equal to the BDL. In fact, the synthetic materials used on the ADL for the butt and forestock should be better for absorbing the rougher uses encountered while hunting. __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

09-29-2003, 11:57 AM	#16
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10,875 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 1	Model 7 in 7mm-08 Would be my personal recomendation for the youngster. http://www.remington.com/firearms/youth/m7youth.htm Don't let the list price scare ya too bad, that's is normally the very high end. I soppose 243 would be the 2nd choice for caliber. __________________ I'm a down home back woods redneck Last edited by jerry; 09-29-2003 at 12:00 PM.

09-29-2003, 01:35 PM	#17
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	Here are a few Savages, which would be my recommendation: The 11F, full sized, synthetic stock: The 11FC, full sized, synthetic stock, and detachable magazine: The 11G, full sized, wood stock: The 16FSS, full sized, synth stock, stainless steel: The 16BSS, full sized, wood stock, stainless steel: And the 10GY, wood stocked youth model: All are available in 243 and 308. If you decide to let the old scope go, you can get a package with a scope and no iron sites. Not my taste though. My thoughts are if you want ammo variety and the ability to use cheap stuff, and she can take the recoil comfortably, use 308. If you plan to use only regular factory ammo, like sticking to a certain Remington load, 243 is fine, sufficient for a lot of game, as affordable as most calibers, low recoil, and straight shooting (lower drop due to higher velocity). __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

09-29-2003, 01:38 PM	#18
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	MSRP is $436 to $668. I got the 111G, whose MSRP is $436, for $385 or so out the door. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

09-29-2003, 02:56 PM	#19
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 4,027 Images: 6	really good lookin guns right there .gonna try to sell it out right then go lookin for a new one for my brother . thanks for the info on the adl and the bdl. would have never new that.