It's time for a recoil pad

Oxford · 10-01-2003, 12:24 AM

Sunday I went through the process of sighting in my new Rem 700 30-06 rifle. Had a great time and accomplished the task to my satisfaction. Fired around 15 rounds or so before I started consistantly getting in the bulls eye at around 75 yds.

However, today my right shoulder is nearly totally black and blue. Ok...I'll admit that maybe I wasn't holding the rife exactly correct. Regardless, I think for this nearly 66 yr old geezer that I may need a recoil pad. Got any suggestions on type? I was thinking of browsing the offerings at Cabelas.

Hey...this is the same arm that I use with my other weapon...you know...the tennis racquet. Gotta keep it in good shape.

Ox

Sniper[MI] · 10-01-2003, 12:31 AM

I takes 25 shells for my remmington to black and blue my shoulder! LOL!!!

Seriously, I am looking into the new R3 recoil pad that remmington has. It is supposed to be the cats arse and make all other recoil pads feel like concrete. Some kind of air bladder deal that reduces felt recoil dramatically.
http://www.remington.com/accessories...y_parts/r3.htm

I dont think one should have to feel like he lost a fight after shooting a while at the range. One or two shots here and there does not necesitate a recoil pad. But when I put 25 rounds through the Savage and the remmington in the same day, my shoulder tells me it does not like me for the next week!

Oxford · 10-01-2003, 12:41 AM

You're right Sniper...I'm a wimp for sure. However, I'm just a puny 200 lb old blind fart out having more fun than should be legal.

Thanks for the URL link and for suggesting the Remington R3 recoil pad. That's exactly what I'll look for over at Cabelas.

Ox :nod:

Dennis · 10-01-2003, 06:08 AM

Ox and sniper Your problems have been solved forever
Go to
http://www.knoxx.com/
They have recoil reducing stocks for shotguns and rifles and they WORK
what they did was digitally map the recoil of a shot gun and build a recoil reducer,spring/cam mecanism that collapses at the same rate and time as the original recoil so it canceles it out.
It really works. better than Any thing I have ever used.
They now have these stocks for common action rifles (with appropriate recoil cams for your caliber)
If you dont have a rifle that they have a stock for they may be able to make you a custom one but it might be expensive.
Let me know what ya think.

pmspinnerb8 · 10-01-2003, 12:50 PM

I've always liked Pachmayer's Decelerator pad. I've got them on all of my rifles including the .375 Wby. I can shoot it all day long. The muzzle brake helps a lot though. LOL

tommy · 10-01-2003, 01:46 PM

did anyone ever try putting some of those gel shoe inserts into a sock and hanging them over thier shoulder when shooting .put a safety pin to keep the sock in place .i would layer them atleast two or three thick . you could be gellin like a fellin

and it's a cheap and good way to cut down on recoil .

my advise is to use a clean sock being it is gonna be close to yo face

NRAJOE · 10-01-2003, 01:50 PM

Sounds like something that would come with a Hi-Point!

dave375hh · 10-01-2003, 03:39 PM

Tommy,

There is an easier way to do just what you described. It's called a Kickeze recoil pad, they're made of sorbothane and are up to 1.4 inches thick. I used to thump the drum for the Pachmayer decelerator but the Kickeze is better and easier to fit and finish.

Oxford,
Another trick I use is a Past recoil shield when shooting off a bench. They strap on over your shoulder and around your chest. I use mine with anything .308 or larger. After all I'm testing the gun not my testoserone.

Dave375

NRAJOE · 10-01-2003, 05:58 PM

Dave, tommy's a little different than most people....FREAK!

Oxford · 10-01-2003, 06:26 PM

Thanks guys for all your comments and suggestions. This morning my arm was even blacker than yesterday. Hope it doesn't fall off.

Funny, though...it isn't that sore.

Had another guy suggest using the gun case over my shoulder if in a real bind. Even that should help some. During deer season I may get off two or three shots at the most. That probabaly wouldn't merit having any recoil pad...however, as Sniper said, I'm just a wimp so why not take a little precaution. Sniper's suggestion sounds best for me. I'll be heading to Cabelas soon to check out their stock of Rem R3 recoil pads.

Some of you don't know that I had a right shoulder rotator cuff operation 1 1/2 yrs ago, and three years ago I tore the rotator cuff but just waited that one out. Never had any problems like this till I retired and started riding 4-wheelers which I turned over on the sand duns in Oklahoma which resulted in the problem.

This retirement is killing me.

:assult:

Sniper[MI] · 10-01-2003, 08:48 PM

It only takes one wipeout to change a lot of things, just be glad it was your shoulder and not something even more serious.

And if'n you couldnt tell I am a whimp too, I dont like looking like I stopped a truck with my shoulder either.

PAPA G · 10-01-2003, 08:50 PM

they made a hydrolic recoil system for rifles and shotguns.

tommy · 10-01-2003, 10:52 PM

hey you know me!!!! i'm a freak!!!

dat was alittle home remedy fo da bad recoil ifin u don't have da time ta go to da stow jus go take all dem gel pads out dem shoes an go shootin .das a po mans recoil pad.

Oxford · 10-02-2003, 12:33 AM

Tommy...you Cajuns really know how to solve problems. Squashing those bubbles could add to the sound effect, too.

Dale · 10-02-2003, 08:49 AM

For all you younger fellers out there black and blueing after shooting is gonna catch up with y'all too, eventually.

You see, as you age your blood vessels become more fragile and much easier to burst or break. Some later age diseases accelerate of enhance that condition. (Ever know someone that you can lightly grab by the arm and the next day you wonder if you abused them or they bruise easily from the slightest bump?)

For me I also suffer from increasing joint disintergration.

Whenever I shoot one of the 8MMs, 30.06 or the Mosins for a while I can be assured my shoulder will look like I'd been in a serious car accident the next day and feels like it's gonna fall off if I lift my arm.

It just comes with age....sooner for some...later for others but it comes.

Enjoy that 'I can shoot 200 rounds of high power non-semi ammo all day long and ask for more'. It'll change, lol....trust me.

I think some company should put a shock absorber system incorporated in the stock and receiver connection.

Oxford · 10-02-2003, 10:51 AM

Dale you must be right because I used to be able to take a lot of abuse physically and seldom get any bruises. Like you said, it doesn't take much now to look like I've been hit by a train

Now if our body parts would all age the same, we might have less problem. When our minds are still thinking young, but our body feels old, we have a conflict which results in those train wreck looks.

That's why I'm heading to Cabelas ASAP to try to find a Rem R3 recoil pad that Sniper told me about.

:nod:

Oxford · 10-03-2003, 04:25 PM

Today was going to be the day I was going to Cabelas for that new R3 Rem recoil pad. However, I decided that because this weekend is the opening for the Kansas Speedway NASCAR races, that place would be too crowded with racing fans slipping over to Cabelas before/after the races.

Cabelas and the Kansas Speedway are located side by side so I'm staying away till the middle of next week. That's one advantage of being retired. I can usually pick and choose where/when I do my shopping.

Anyway, I dropped by Dick's Sporting Goods store, which is also close to my home and looked for the Rem R3 recoil pad. They only had in stock the R3 for the synthetic stock. Apparantly the synthetic stock is hollow and will receive the R3 mounted inside the rim of the butt. My Rem 700 is solid walnut so I've got to get the R3 made for the BDL. For sure, I'm not wanting to screw up the installation process.

Cabelas will have a huge stock of supplies for nearly any kind of gun a person uses so I'm going there for sure.

:nod:

Oxford · 10-07-2003, 06:04 PM

Ok...here's "The Rest of the Story." Nothing's as simple as it should be. Just learned that lesson again for the "n"th time.

Went to Cabela's (about 20 miles away), bought the Rem R3 recoil pad equivalent (Sim's, which the box said would fit the gun. Got home and prepared to do the mount job. Welllllllll the dang thing didn't fit. My butt stock is arched slightly and the Sim's was flat. Also, the Sim's was too short.

Decided to go back to Dick's Sporting Goods, where my wife had bought the gun, and see if they had a gunsmith who could do the retrofit job. Nope! No gunsmith there. Went to another place about two miles away called Guns Unlimited. Nope! No gunsmith there, either.

Finally went to a place in Claycomo, MO (about 20 minutes away from my home) and told them my story.
They recognized the problem immediately. Also, they had the correct recoil pad available $10 cheaper than the one I bought at Cabela's, and only wanted $20 to mount it. Also, they had gunsmith under contract who came into their shop weekly to pick-up/deliver guns which needed servicing, too. Told them to do the job. It should be completed in about 7-10 days.

Bottom line, Cabela's may be cheaper in lots of items, but their sales staff is not necessarily as trained in the in's and out's of their products as they should be. Let the buyer beware. Those salespeople are definitely not gunsmith's and they don't employ gunsmiths I was told. You're on your own when you need that kind of technical service.

The last thing I did was drive back to Cabela's (another 45 mile Round trip) and returned their recoil pad and got a refund. They're good at giving refunds.

Could have chopped off my butt stock, and screwed the recoil pad on by myself, but thought the Rem 700 BDL deserved a better fate. By having a professional gunsmith do the job I expect to keep up the gun's value.

Ox :nod:

Dennis · 10-07-2003, 06:32 PM

shoulda bought a knoxx stock

Oxford · 10-07-2003, 09:42 PM

Had to look that up on the Web, Dennis, since I hadn't heard of it. Found a lot of detailed information at the following URL.

http://www.knoxx.com/NewStyleKnoxx/T...rt/COPtech.htm

However, that's a little too radical looking for my Rem 700 30-06, but it might have done the job well. I'm satisfied with the Rem R3 recoil pad.

Ox:nod:

10-01-2003, 12:24 AM	#1
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,074 Blog Entries: 4	It's time for a recoil pad Sunday I went through the process of sighting in my new Rem 700 30-06 rifle. Had a great time and accomplished the task to my satisfaction. Fired around 15 rounds or so before I started consistantly getting in the bulls eye at around 75 yds. However, today my right shoulder is nearly totally black and blue. Ok...I'll admit that maybe I wasn't holding the rife exactly correct. Regardless, I think for this nearly 66 yr old geezer that I may need a recoil pad. Got any suggestions on type? I was thinking of browsing the offerings at Cabelas. Hey...this is the same arm that I use with my other weapon...you know...the tennis racquet. Gotta keep it in good shape. Ox __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

10-01-2003, 12:31 AM	#2
Sniper[MI] Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Future 51st state, "New Hope" Posts: 3,796	Whimp! I takes 25 shells for my remmington to black and blue my shoulder! LOL!!! Seriously, I am looking into the new R3 recoil pad that remmington has. It is supposed to be the cats arse and make all other recoil pads feel like concrete. Some kind of air bladder deal that reduces felt recoil dramatically. http://www.remington.com/accessories...y_parts/r3.htm I dont think one should have to feel like he lost a fight after shooting a while at the range. One or two shots here and there does not necesitate a recoil pad. But when I put 25 rounds through the Savage and the remmington in the same day, my shoulder tells me it does not like me for the next week! __________________ FNUH!

10-01-2003, 12:41 AM	#3
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,074 Blog Entries: 4	You're right Sniper...I'm a wimp for sure. However, I'm just a puny 200 lb old blind fart out having more fun than should be legal. Thanks for the URL link and for suggesting the Remington R3 recoil pad. That's exactly what I'll look for over at Cabelas. Ox :nod: __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

10-01-2003, 06:08 AM	#4
Dennis Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,878	Ox and sniper Your problems have been solved forever Go to http://www.knoxx.com/ They have recoil reducing stocks for shotguns and rifles and they WORK what they did was digitally map the recoil of a shot gun and build a recoil reducer,spring/cam mecanism that collapses at the same rate and time as the original recoil so it canceles it out. It really works. better than Any thing I have ever used. They now have these stocks for common action rifles (with appropriate recoil cams for your caliber) If you dont have a rifle that they have a stock for they may be able to make you a custom one but it might be expensive. Let me know what ya think. __________________ Submitted with respect to all

10-01-2003, 12:50 PM	#5
pmspinnerb8 Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lonestar State Posts: 286	I've always liked Pachmayer's Decelerator pad. I've got them on all of my rifles including the .375 Wby. I can shoot it all day long. The muzzle brake helps a lot though. LOL __________________ Two in the chest and one in the head and even the Green Giant falls down dead.

10-01-2003, 01:46 PM	#6
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 4,103 Images: 6	did anyone ever try putting some of those gel shoe inserts into a sock and hanging them over thier shoulder when shooting .put a safety pin to keep the sock in place .i would layer them atleast two or three thick . you could be gellin like a fellin and it's a cheap and good way to cut down on recoil . my advise is to use a clean sock being it is gonna be close to yo face

10-01-2003, 01:50 PM	#7
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,209 Images: 3	Sounds like something that would come with a Hi-Point! __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

10-01-2003, 03:39 PM	#8
dave375hh Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 587	Tommy, There is an easier way to do just what you described. It's called a Kickeze recoil pad, they're made of sorbothane and are up to 1.4 inches thick. I used to thump the drum for the Pachmayer decelerator but the Kickeze is better and easier to fit and finish. Oxford, Another trick I use is a Past recoil shield when shooting off a bench. They strap on over your shoulder and around your chest. I use mine with anything .308 or larger. After all I'm testing the gun not my testoserone. Dave375 __________________ Dave 375 H&H

10-01-2003, 05:58 PM	#9
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,209 Images: 3	Dave, tommy's a little different than most people....FREAK! __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

10-01-2003, 06:26 PM	#10
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,074 Blog Entries: 4	Thanks guys for all your comments and suggestions. This morning my arm was even blacker than yesterday. Hope it doesn't fall off. Funny, though...it isn't that sore. Had another guy suggest using the gun case over my shoulder if in a real bind. Even that should help some. During deer season I may get off two or three shots at the most. That probabaly wouldn't merit having any recoil pad...however, as Sniper said, I'm just a wimp so why not take a little precaution. Sniper's suggestion sounds best for me. I'll be heading to Cabelas soon to check out their stock of Rem R3 recoil pads. Some of you don't know that I had a right shoulder rotator cuff operation 1 1/2 yrs ago, and three years ago I tore the rotator cuff but just waited that one out. Never had any problems like this till I retired and started riding 4-wheelers which I turned over on the sand duns in Oklahoma which resulted in the problem. This retirement is killing me. :assult: __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

10-01-2003, 08:48 PM	#11
Sniper[MI] Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Future 51st state, "New Hope" Posts: 3,796	Yup It only takes one wipeout to change a lot of things, just be glad it was your shoulder and not something even more serious. And if'n you couldnt tell I am a whimp too, I dont like looking like I stopped a truck with my shoulder either. __________________ FNUH!

10-01-2003, 08:50 PM	#12
PAPA G Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 11	IS HYDRO-COIL STILL AROUND??? they made a hydrolic recoil system for rifles and shotguns.

10-01-2003, 10:52 PM	#13
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 4,103 Images: 6	hey you know me!!!! i'm a freak!!! dat was alittle home remedy fo da bad recoil ifin u don't have da time ta go to da stow jus go take all dem gel pads out dem shoes an go shootin .das a po mans recoil pad.

10-02-2003, 12:33 AM	#14
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,074 Blog Entries: 4	Tommy...you Cajuns really know how to solve problems. Squashing those bubbles could add to the sound effect, too. __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

10-02-2003, 08:49 AM	#15
Dale Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Too Dang Hot, Arizona Posts: 4,284	For all you younger fellers out there black and blueing after shooting is gonna catch up with y'all too, eventually. You see, as you age your blood vessels become more fragile and much easier to burst or break. Some later age diseases accelerate of enhance that condition. (Ever know someone that you can lightly grab by the arm and the next day you wonder if you abused them or they bruise easily from the slightest bump?) For me I also suffer from increasing joint disintergration. Whenever I shoot one of the 8MMs, 30.06 or the Mosins for a while I can be assured my shoulder will look like I'd been in a serious car accident the next day and feels like it's gonna fall off if I lift my arm. It just comes with age....sooner for some...later for others but it comes. Enjoy that 'I can shoot 200 rounds of high power non-semi ammo all day long and ask for more'. It'll change, lol....trust me. I think some company should put a shock absorber system incorporated in the stock and receiver connection. __________________ "It confuses me how some people can vigorously go against the 2nd. Amendment and still call themselves patriotic"-me

10-02-2003, 10:51 AM	#16
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,074 Blog Entries: 4	Dale you must be right because I used to be able to take a lot of abuse physically and seldom get any bruises. Like you said, it doesn't take much now to look like I've been hit by a train Now if our body parts would all age the same, we might have less problem. When our minds are still thinking young, but our body feels old, we have a conflict which results in those train wreck looks. That's why I'm heading to Cabelas ASAP to try to find a Rem R3 recoil pad that Sniper told me about. :nod: __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

10-03-2003, 04:25 PM	#17
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,074 Blog Entries: 4	Got to be patient to get exactly what I need Today was going to be the day I was going to Cabelas for that new R3 Rem recoil pad. However, I decided that because this weekend is the opening for the Kansas Speedway NASCAR races, that place would be too crowded with racing fans slipping over to Cabelas before/after the races. Cabelas and the Kansas Speedway are located side by side so I'm staying away till the middle of next week. That's one advantage of being retired. I can usually pick and choose where/when I do my shopping. Anyway, I dropped by Dick's Sporting Goods store, which is also close to my home and looked for the Rem R3 recoil pad. They only had in stock the R3 for the synthetic stock. Apparantly the synthetic stock is hollow and will receive the R3 mounted inside the rim of the butt. My Rem 700 is solid walnut so I've got to get the R3 made for the BDL. For sure, I'm not wanting to screw up the installation process. Cabelas will have a huge stock of supplies for nearly any kind of gun a person uses so I'm going there for sure. :nod: __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

10-07-2003, 06:04 PM	#18
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,074 Blog Entries: 4	Ok...here's "The Rest of the Story." Nothing's as simple as it should be. Just learned that lesson again for the "n"th time. Went to Cabela's (about 20 miles away), bought the Rem R3 recoil pad equivalent (Sim's, which the box said would fit the gun. Got home and prepared to do the mount job. Welllllllll the dang thing didn't fit. My butt stock is arched slightly and the Sim's was flat. Also, the Sim's was too short. Decided to go back to Dick's Sporting Goods, where my wife had bought the gun, and see if they had a gunsmith who could do the retrofit job. Nope! No gunsmith there. Went to another place about two miles away called Guns Unlimited. Nope! No gunsmith there, either. Finally went to a place in Claycomo, MO (about 20 minutes away from my home) and told them my story. They recognized the problem immediately. Also, they had the correct recoil pad available $10 cheaper than the one I bought at Cabela's, and only wanted $20 to mount it. Also, they had gunsmith under contract who came into their shop weekly to pick-up/deliver guns which needed servicing, too. Told them to do the job. It should be completed in about 7-10 days. Bottom line, Cabela's may be cheaper in lots of items, but their sales staff is not necessarily as trained in the in's and out's of their products as they should be. Let the buyer beware. Those salespeople are definitely not gunsmith's and they don't employ gunsmiths I was told. You're on your own when you need that kind of technical service. The last thing I did was drive back to Cabela's (another 45 mile Round trip) and returned their recoil pad and got a refund. They're good at giving refunds. Could have chopped off my butt stock, and screwed the recoil pad on by myself, but thought the Rem 700 BDL deserved a better fate. By having a professional gunsmith do the job I expect to keep up the gun's value. Ox :nod: __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

10-07-2003, 06:32 PM	#19
Dennis Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,878	shoulda bought a knoxx stock __________________ Submitted with respect to all

10-07-2003, 09:42 PM	#20
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,074 Blog Entries: 4	Thanks for the comment Dennis. Had to look that up on the Web, Dennis, since I hadn't heard of it. Found a lot of detailed information at the following URL. http://www.knoxx.com/NewStyleKnoxx/T...rt/COPtech.htm However, that's a little too radical looking for my Rem 700 30-06, but it might have done the job well. I'm satisfied with the Rem R3 recoil pad. Ox:nod: __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".