Need Information About Which Rifle to Choose!!

HoLLow PoiNt · 10-13-2003, 05:43 PM

On Sunday, "Doglips" and I went to the local gun range.... I'm in the process of buying a rifle and am not sure which one to get. He brought an Ak-47, .223, .308, Sks among others (about 40) but anyway... Did I mention he just got out of a Mental Hospital?!? (j/k) What I am looking for is an accurate (100-200 yard) affordable ($100-500) rifle. I like the AK because it can hold up to 90 rounds and I like the look. Well, any help will do... Thanks

Pumpkinheaver · 10-13-2003, 05:55 PM

If you like the AK then get one, ammo is fairly cheap.

Snakebite · 10-13-2003, 05:56 PM

You didnt narrow your choices down much!!
My vote is for the mighty Hakim! WAY more accurate and powerful than an AK or SKS...or any other one you mentioned. Its in your price range if you can find one.
But then, I'm kinda partial to my Hakim.

jerry · 10-13-2003, 06:35 PM

Thyat's a pretty wide price range. Do you want a shooter, or something to hunt with. If so, what type of hunting? Varmit, big game?

HoLLow PoiNt · 10-13-2003, 06:47 PM

What is a HAKIM? I want just to use for Target practice at about 100-200 yards...

Big Dog · 10-13-2003, 07:22 PM

The CETME in 7.62X51 NATO is well within your price range, and far outranges the AK. When my Spanish Lady speaks, people listen!

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PAPA G · 10-13-2003, 07:27 PM

i vote CMP M1 Garand.

BattleRifleG3 · 10-13-2003, 08:55 PM

You want to use scope or iron sites?

practical · 10-13-2003, 09:36 PM

I'd say a used Rem 700 or ruger 77 in 223 or 308. These are good rifles in cheap accurate calibers. If you want to go a a little more and get a better all around gun, look for a used post-ban AR15. Lots of them in the upper end of that price range. And its a good starter gun. I'd definitely stay with 223 or 308. These are cheap to shoot and relatively accurate calibers. For my bucks, I'd get the used postban AR.

Dale · 10-13-2003, 10:15 PM

I didn't see a preferrence for bolt action over semi, etc.

If's its a bolt action may I suggest the Yugo M48 or 48A 8MM for around $100-120. Most are still in very reasonable condition. They are great rifles with very good-great accuracy.

For about the same price I could take ya out and make ya cream yer jeans with the Schmidt-Rubin K-31 or the Steyr M95 but..but...ammo is kinda hard to find and if you do find it...well, it's a tad on the high side.

For about $250-$300 the ONLY choice is the 6.5 x 55 Swede mauser...pure and simply the best action in the mauser line.

If it's relatively inexpensive and accurate semi rifle I vote for the HK3 or, even slightly less in price, the Cetme.

For a little less, or, in some cases about the same price, you can get the AK variants (SAR, etc.) but they are fair to good (at best) in accuracy. But, then again, those types were made for the amount of lead they can lay down...not their accuracy.

As the price range goes up...so does the suggestions but that would take too much room.

NRAJOE · 10-13-2003, 10:17 PM

Any 7.62x39...SKS...AK...Rasheed.

lefty o · 10-13-2003, 10:52 PM

if you want an ex military rifle, the swedish mauser is the choice. if you want new, id suggest a savage bolt action in .308.

whirlwind · 10-14-2003, 12:58 AM

ruger ranch rifle/mini-14! i just always thought they looked cool! they would be more accurate than the ak and ammo is relatively cheap...less power though

Dennis · 10-14-2003, 04:08 AM

What about Mosin Nagants? Those are great and at a great price and the Ammo is cheap and Much more powerful than .223 7.62x39 or even .308
(in some loadings)
the longer rifles are as accurate as anything out there

The most important thing is to get the one YOU like.
if it doesnt work out you can get something else
Get All you want
They will make more

jerry · 10-14-2003, 05:18 AM

Mil surp may be the way to go for sure.

dhermesc · 10-14-2003, 07:41 AM

I would go with two, a SKS and a good old Savage in .308 or .243. Might just be me, but a .243 seems to be a lot easier on the shoulder when you put a hundred rounds through it in an afternoon.

HoLLow PoiNt · 10-14-2003, 09:20 AM

Well, I appreciate all the suggestions. I will update in a week or two and let you all know the out come. If you have any more suggestions I will sure listen. Thankx

Rufus Rhastus J · 10-14-2003, 09:32 AM

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Originally posted by Snakebite
You didnt narrow your choices down much!!
My vote is for the mighty Hakim! WAY more accurate and powerful than an AK or SKS...or any other one you mentioned. Its in your price range if you can find one.
But then, I'm kinda partial to my Hakim.

As I recall, many years ago (5), the mags were in very short supply and, the ones you could find, were outragously priced. is this still true?:nod:

Rufus Rhastus J · 10-14-2003, 09:42 AM

Speaking just from experiance, I have an ak, sks, mini-14 and Mosin-Nagant. I like mil-surp for several reasons. If you like to shoot differant stuff, where else can you sample so much for so little? And, if you like to shoot, how else can you affors to shoot unless you buy surplus? So, all that being said, for the semi auto, SKS and, for the bolt M91 Mosin-Nagant! The M91 i got cost 40 bucks. you can hit a dime with open sites at 50 yards (that was the max at the range)! My experiance shows me that just about any sks will be more accurate than any ak, for some reason and, excludeing all the high dollor ones. Jusy my thoguhts, for what they are worth. Good luck in choosing. But, i fear you will end up with about three for that 500 you mention if you are choosey!

Snakebite · 10-14-2003, 05:00 PM

Rufus,
I guess the mags are still in short supply. I saw one in Shotgun News and it was $79.95! Thats 1/4 the price I paid for the whole gun.

Hollow Point,
The Hakim is an Egyptian gas operated semi auto in 7.92 Nato. (8mm) It has a 10 round mag but can be adapted for a 20 round...or so I've read. Very accurate and powerful. It just looks cool because its so dang big! It also has a very effective muzzle break/flash suppressor. Ammo isnt as cheap as the 7.62x39 but its every bit as much fun to shoot...especially when its the only one at the range and people are always coming over and asking...what IS that thing??

10-13-2003, 05:43 PM	#1
HoLLow PoiNt Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Space Coast Posts: 16	Need Information About Which Rifle to Choose!! On Sunday, "Doglips" and I went to the local gun range.... I'm in the process of buying a rifle and am not sure which one to get. He brought an Ak-47, .223, .308, Sks among others (about 40) but anyway... Did I mention he just got out of a Mental Hospital?!? (j/k) What I am looking for is an accurate (100-200 yard) affordable ($100-500) rifle. I like the AK because it can hold up to 90 rounds and I like the look. Well, any help will do... Thanks

10-13-2003, 05:55 PM	#2
Pumpkinheaver Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,340	If you like the AK then get one, ammo is fairly cheap. __________________ Just because your paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you!

10-13-2003, 06:35 PM	#4
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10,884 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 1	Thyat's a pretty wide price range. Do you want a shooter, or something to hunt with. If so, what type of hunting? Varmit, big game? __________________ I'm a down home back woods redneck

10-13-2003, 07:22 PM	#6
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,219	The CETME in 7.62X51 NATO is well within your price range, and far outranges the AK. When my Spanish Lady speaks, people listen! http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-...deloC_Pic2.jpg :assult: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

10-13-2003, 08:55 PM	#8
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	You want to use scope or iron sites? __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

10-13-2003, 05:56 PM	#3
Snakebite Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tucson, Mexico Posts: 1,839	You didnt narrow your choices down much!! My vote is for the mighty Hakim! WAY more accurate and powerful than an AK or SKS...or any other one you mentioned. Its in your price range if you can find one. But then, I'm kinda partial to my Hakim.

10-13-2003, 06:47 PM	#5
HoLLow PoiNt Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Space Coast Posts: 16	What is a HAKIM? I want just to use for Target practice at about 100-200 yards...

10-13-2003, 07:27 PM	#7
PAPA G Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 12	i vote CMP M1 Garand.

10-13-2003, 09:36 PM	#9
practical Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baton Rouge, LA/Casper, WY Posts: 736	I'd say a used Rem 700 or ruger 77 in 223 or 308. These are good rifles in cheap accurate calibers. If you want to go a a little more and get a better all around gun, look for a used post-ban AR15. Lots of them in the upper end of that price range. And its a good starter gun. I'd definitely stay with 223 or 308. These are cheap to shoot and relatively accurate calibers. For my bucks, I'd get the used postban AR. __________________ Eric "The secret to life is honesty and fair dealing, if you can fake that you've got it made"

10-13-2003, 10:15 PM	#10
Dale Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Too Dang Hot, Arizona Posts: 4,284	I didn't see a preferrence for bolt action over semi, etc. If's its a bolt action may I suggest the Yugo M48 or 48A 8MM for around $100-120. Most are still in very reasonable condition. They are great rifles with very good-great accuracy. For about the same price I could take ya out and make ya cream yer jeans with the Schmidt-Rubin K-31 or the Steyr M95 but..but...ammo is kinda hard to find and if you do find it...well, it's a tad on the high side. For about $250-$300 the ONLY choice is the 6.5 x 55 Swede mauser...pure and simply the best action in the mauser line. If it's relatively inexpensive and accurate semi rifle I vote for the HK3 or, even slightly less in price, the Cetme. For a little less, or, in some cases about the same price, you can get the AK variants (SAR, etc.) but they are fair to good (at best) in accuracy. But, then again, those types were made for the amount of lead they can lay down...not their accuracy. As the price range goes up...so does the suggestions but that would take too much room. __________________ "It confuses me how some people can vigorously go against the 2nd. Amendment and still call themselves patriotic"-me

10-13-2003, 10:17 PM	#11
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,052 Images: 3	Any 7.62x39...SKS...AK...Rasheed. __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

10-13-2003, 10:52 PM	#12
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,807	if you want an ex military rifle, the swedish mauser is the choice. if you want new, id suggest a savage bolt action in .308.

10-14-2003, 12:58 AM	#13
whirlwind Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: oklahoma Posts: 3,739 Images: 1	ruger ranch rifle/mini-14! i just always thought they looked cool! they would be more accurate than the ak and ammo is relatively cheap...less power though __________________ De oppresso liber !

10-14-2003, 04:08 AM	#14
Dennis Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,877	What about Mosin Nagants? Those are great and at a great price and the Ammo is cheap and Much more powerful than .223 7.62x39 or even .308 (in some loadings) the longer rifles are as accurate as anything out there The most important thing is to get the one YOU like. if it doesnt work out you can get something else Get All you want They will make more __________________ Submitted with respect to all

10-14-2003, 05:18 AM	#15
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10,884 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 1	Mil surp may be the way to go for sure. __________________ I'm a down home back woods redneck

10-14-2003, 07:41 AM	#16
dhermesc Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: East Central Kansas Posts: 1,762	I would go with two, a SKS and a good old Savage in .308 or .243. Might just be me, but a .243 seems to be a lot easier on the shoulder when you put a hundred rounds through it in an afternoon. __________________ Liberty is for those that claim it.

10-14-2003, 09:20 AM	#17
HoLLow PoiNt Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Space Coast Posts: 16	Well, I appreciate all the suggestions. I will update in a week or two and let you all know the out come. If you have any more suggestions I will sure listen. Thankx __________________ 'Gun control means using both hands'

10-14-2003, 09:42 AM	#19
Rufus Rhastus J Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: West, Central Florida, Third World America Posts: 6,339 Images: 1	OOOoopppppssss!!!! Speaking just from experiance, I have an ak, sks, mini-14 and Mosin-Nagant. I like mil-surp for several reasons. If you like to shoot differant stuff, where else can you sample so much for so little? And, if you like to shoot, how else can you affors to shoot unless you buy surplus? So, all that being said, for the semi auto, SKS and, for the bolt M91 Mosin-Nagant! The M91 i got cost 40 bucks. you can hit a dime with open sites at 50 yards (that was the max at the range)! My experiance shows me that just about any sks will be more accurate than any ak, for some reason and, excludeing all the high dollor ones. Jusy my thoguhts, for what they are worth. Good luck in choosing. But, i fear you will end up with about three for that 500 you mention if you are choosey! __________________ "They cannot be trusted.....The Romulans (our politicos) are without honor." Worf

10-14-2003, 05:00 PM	#20
Snakebite Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tucson, Mexico Posts: 1,839	Rufus, I guess the mags are still in short supply. I saw one in Shotgun News and it was $79.95! Thats 1/4 the price I paid for the whole gun. Hollow Point, The Hakim is an Egyptian gas operated semi auto in 7.92 Nato. (8mm) It has a 10 round mag but can be adapted for a 20 round...or so I've read. Very accurate and powerful. It just looks cool because its so dang big! It also has a very effective muzzle break/flash suppressor. Ammo isnt as cheap as the 7.62x39 but its every bit as much fun to shoot...especially when its the only one at the range and people are always coming over and asking...what IS that thing??