Hmm. This is similar to my theory that in the United States, we are unlikely to have a major war until at least 20 years have elapsed since the last one. Let's go back thru history here a bit. (I'm including riots and such.)
1992: Rodney King riots in L.A. Civil disorder that took the LAPD a week to suppress.
1965: Watts riots in L.A. Cvil disorder that required the use of an Army Reserve division and a regiment of Marines to suppress before they could hand the city back to the LAPD and the LAFD.
1932: WWI veterans' "Bonus March" on DC. Not much violence there, though.
1907: Bank Panic of 1907. Not much violence, but lots of cash withdrawals and "banks too big to fail" in fact failing. Led to the formation of the Federal Reserve system.
1893: the Panic of 1893. Causes were varied, but it caused a run on the banks, many of which failed; strikes and riots with attendant violence; and "Coxey's Army," a ragtag group of 6,000 or so laborers who marched on Washington demanding a jobs program to alleviate the financial depression that had lasted a year at that point be created. (The depression ran through 1897.)
1863: Civil War Draft Riots in New York City. Rioting lasted for a week in protest of the way the draft was being handled, which allowed the rich to hire a "substitute" for $300 (a huge sum in those days) to go and fight in the Union Army if their draft number came up. Martial law was imposed on NYC, and hundreds were killed by rioters and soldiers. It is considered the worst civil insurrection in American history.
Well, that's back a century and a half. Let's look at the intervals.
Watts to Rodney King: 27 years.
Bonus Army to Watts: 33 years.
Panic of '07 to Bonus Army:25 years.
Panic of '93 to Panic of '07: 14 years.
Draft Riots to Panic of '93: 30 years.
Ignoring ongoing more-or-less peaceful cultural protests like the Suffragette Movement, the Temperance Movement, the German-American Bund, and the Vietnam-era antiwar movement, all of which had specific, defined goals, I'd say the gap between major urban upheavals is closer to 30 years than 50 years. Or as some authorities define it, once in a generation.
If that standard is used, we are just begining to get into the zone where we may expect a major urban riot, but it is probably a couple of years away yet. Unless, of course, Bobo the Clown does something truly egregious (like refusing to leave office after his ass is beaten in November) and that triggers the event.
One possibility from what I have been reading in the news is that a bunch of white or Asian folks get fed up with the black flash rob mobs, arm themselves, and go gunning for them. Blacks get killed, the young black hotheads (you notice it's not the blacks who have families, who've made it, who have "got their piece of the pie," who are doing the flash rob mob thing) break out their illegal guns,they kill a bunch of non-blacks, things escalate and more people on both sides get killed as neighborhoods become urban war zones, the cops can't handle it, and the Army has to restore order. It could start in one city (I'd wager on Detroit, Chicago or Philadelphia) and then go viral. That could get really ugly.
That's how I see things, anyway. Thoughts, ladies and gentlemen?
One possibility from what I have been reading in the news is that a bunch of white or Asian folks get fed up with the black flash rob mobs, arm themselves, and go gunning for them. Blacks get killed, the young black hotheads (you notice it's not the blacks who have families, who've made it, who have "got their piece of the pie," who are doing the flash rob mob thing) break out their illegal guns,they kill a bunch of non-blacks, things escalate and more people on both sides get killed as neighborhoods become urban war zones, the cops can't handle it, and the Army has to restore order. It could start in one city (I'd wager on Detroit, Chicago or Philadelphia) and then go viral. That could get really ugly.
That's how I see things, anyway. Thoughts, ladies and gentlemen?
I could see a flash mob targeting the wrong store and a few minorities being killed, thus leading to outrage among their community which could result in an ugly violent mess worse than any of the previous riots we've seen, thanks largely to the media and already heightened tensions across the nation.
Heck, a not guilty verdict for Zimmerman could cause a major $h!tstorm too. With the economy, racial tensions, and everything else the way it is right now I will be surprised if something big doesn't happen in the next five years.
I can see major riots in large cities if the idiot in chief loses the election in November.
Of course, the loss will be blamed on "Racism".
If he accidentally wins via massive voter fraud or the continuing stupidity of the electorate, the riots will start when the Treasury runs out of money and the welfare and food stamp programs go belly up.
Good point, but those wars combined have less casualties than Vietnam, much less WWII or previous wars. There are at least half a dozen WWII battles that dwarf Iraq, (both wars) Afghanistan, and Vietnam on the allied side alone. Compare that to what the commies, and Germans did to each other at Stalingrad, Leningrad, Kursk etc. in which casualties reached hundreds of thousands (In each respective battle) the wars with the Muj look like the Falklands.
The current wars are unfortunate, and heartbreaking no doubt, but I can't rightly consider them to be "big" wars. I don't mean to be insensitive or in any way diminish the bravery of our fighting men and women of any war or conflict waged in good conscience but they are nowhere near the level of atrocity and decimation experienced in our recent past.
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It will take only asmall spark to set off the black people, since obummer has continously primed them for racism and rioting. Hell, his private army is the NEW BLACK PANTHERS! You can just imagine what they'll stir up at the bequest of the white house and the lamestream media. Obummer has it set for a MASSIVE race riot, so he can call in the military, and set up martial law across the nation. What easier way to hang onto the white house than to get a race war started, and then cancel the November elections?
To say the North fought the South "circa 1870" really stretches the fact.
What America faces now stems from what the Gallup Poll considers unemployment plus underemployment (jobs not worth having due to low pay, low hours, lack of benefits, etc.). It has been at a fairly consistent 25-26% of the workforce for a very long time.
Through NAFTA and our love China policy we have shipped overseas 4 out of 10 manufacturing jobs.
From the perspective of my life experience America has experienced unrest and chaos since the early 1960's.
To say the North fought the South "circa 1870" really stretches the fact.
What America faces now stems from what the Gallup Poll considers unemployment plus underemployment (jobs not worth having due to low pay, low hours, lack of benefits, etc.). It has been at a fairly consistent 25-26% of the workforce for a very long time.
Through NAFTA and our love China policy we have shipped overseas 4 out of 10 manufacturing jobs.
From the perspective of my life experience America has experienced unrest and chaos since the early 1960's.
Nathangdad, is it really that high? 4 out of 10 jobs? Good Lord. Don't you remember in the early 70s, Nixon hugging that Chinaman, and see what has happened to our manufacturing base?
And back in the 90s, I well remember Billy smugly annoucing on TV that the NAFTA program will be the best thing ever, as "America doesn't need those manufactoring jobs, as we have moved into the tech arena now." Or words to that effect.
Nathangdad, is it really that high? 4 out of 10 jobs? Good Lord. Don't you remember in the early 70s, Nixon hugging that Chinaman, and see what has happened to our manufacturing base?
And back in the 90s, I well remember Billy smugly annoucing on TV that the NAFTA program will be the best thing ever, as "America doesn't need those manufactoring jobs, as we have moved into the tech arena now." Or words to that effect.
Glad that I am an old man.
I seem to remember Bush making comments of a similar nature around the '04 elections, and the commentators like Limbaugh ate it up, and regurgitated it.
Something along the lines of "We have moved beyond the factory, and it's time for the American work force to get back to school and learn to work jobs that require post secondary education".
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Yes, it really is four of ten manufacturing jobs sent overseas. You can check this out on the internet.
Let us examine the loss of factory employment - our reserves of foreign currency are very much diminshed, the value of the dollar is diminished, one of two college grads returns home as they cannot find jobs, and actual investment in America suffers. You may have read about Ford Motor Company building a one billion dollar operation in Brazil.
America has not moved beyond the factory. All the tech sales talk in the world cannot make up for the fact that we do not have a corner on the tech development market.
Now there's an interesting scenario, Barry refusing to leave the White House on January 20, 2013! Hopefully chief injustice roberts will be out sick that day and the rest of SCOTUS will order the military to remove his corrupt ass by force. I don't think there's much love lost between Barry and the military. Let's see: I'm putting my money on Seal Team Six against all the Black Panthers Barry can round up, and I'll spot 'em the first ten shots!
You could spot those morons their entire arsenals. One of the local ranges I visit in the winter gets the gangbanger/black radical types in every so often and they don't know the first thing about Marksmanship. Despite having up to a half dozen NRA Range Officers onsite they don't seem too keen to receive any advice, or instruction. Usually they burn through a couple hundred rounds in under 20 minutes with no need to change targets and leave.
Missing the paper entirely seems to be of little concern, and rapid firing 30rd glock mags seems to be the point of the visit. I don't think I have seen any of those individuals, or groups show up more than once. I only hope if I am ever unfortunate enough to have to defend myself against one of those types they are aiming dead at me because that seems to be about the only place their rounds won't end up.
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Verd ori'shya beskar'gam. - "A warrior is more than his armor"
It will take only asmall spark to set off the black people, since obummer has continously primed them for racism and rioting. Hell, his private army is the NEW BLACK PANTHERS! You can just imagine what they'll stir up at the bequest of the white house and the lamestream media. Obummer has it set for a MASSIVE race riot, so he can call in the military, and set up martial law across the nation. What easier way to hang onto the white house than to get a race war started, and then cancel the November elections?
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if something like this happens. why else is El Presidente polarizing the population so much? his use of the Black Panthers to intimidate voters in the last election is just a prieview of things to come. illegal aliens given citizenship for helping his side will be his re inforcements. if the American voters have the audacity to not re elect him, I firmly believe there will be massive riots giving Obummer the excuse to declare martial law and himself King. then we will really see who stands by their oath to the Constitution and who blindly follows orders. a terrible situation will ensue but after the smoke clears I believe America will be better for it. I hate to say it but a violent revolution is the only way this country will ever get back on the right track. it seems the ballot box does nothing to get rid of the imbedded greed and corruption of our "elected" officials. most are liars who say anything to get elected then do as their handlers command once they get the power. the whole system needs an enema and the first place to stick the needle is Washington D.C. . Thomas Jefferson warned us that the Gov't will grow into an enetity unto itself and we will need a revolution about every 20 years to keep it in check. if no one hears from me anymore it means I was taken away in the night by the Gestapo. God save America!
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