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Old 08-29-2012, 08:43 PM   #41
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And this is the way you would leave a buddy? Spend the $15.00 and help your friend see the light , first and formost this will require safety goggles and alota of tactical training, with the $15.00 , purchase a lever action daisy BB-gun ( cheaper version of the Red Ryder) , you then set you and your buddy aprox 60' apart you with the BB-gun and him with his sword (some kinda Greek name , spelled like an eyechart).Tell him to get ready and at the count of three your going to shoot him center mass, right twixed the nipples,and he's to block or deflect the shot, and when the count gets to almost to three shoot him in the sack( thats right, right in the old twig and berries) and as he's roll'n round on the ground hurt'n tell him to stop watch'n them Jackie Chan movies and last stand of the 300, real bullits are much bigger and faster. I doubt he'll take the offer, as I much better to trust the gun than the people we sometimes call friends. PS. don't shoot at anybody , this was simply said in jest .
waterdog, there for a minute I was thinkin you played army using BB guns as a kid . Then ya had to go and spoil it all by sayin in jest. Ya know readin this I was drinkin some water, and about shot it out my nose. Do you know that is more dangerous than gettin shot with a BB gun? And the headache you get when it's over .

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Old 08-29-2012, 08:45 PM   #42
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Use less than lethal rubber bullets, or the primer powered plastic target ones.
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Old 08-30-2012, 10:05 AM   #43
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It reminded me of an old 80's movie, called "The Last Dragon"...

Probably the funniest line in the movie is uttered by Sho'Nuff, Shogun of Harlem (Julius Carry III) is "Catches Bullets in his TEETH??" at around 1:40 on this clip...


The movie is remarkable for its Soundtrack, which featured a lot of great Motown 80's artists...
and some of the campyest martial arts action ever shot...

For those who remember him, JC III was also in Doctor, Doctor, an early 2000's sitcom...
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Old 08-30-2012, 10:17 AM   #44
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....... and when the count gets to almost to three shoot him in the sack( thats right, right in the old twig and berries) and as he's roll'n round on the ground hurt'n tell him to stop watch'n them Jackie Chan movies and last stand of the 300, real bullits are much bigger and faster.......


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Old 08-30-2012, 10:39 AM   #45
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MidwayUSA sponsor a program called "Incredible Shots," or something like that. I've seen precision trick shooters split a bullet on an axe blade and pop balloons set off at about a 30 degree angle 15 feet behind the axe with the pieces. Even at short range, it is apparently a difficult shot to make, though Annie Oakley did it regularly when she was with Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show.
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Old 08-30-2012, 11:56 AM   #46
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Ten Man, i'm sorry but i have read you're post on this friend over several times and all i can do is laugh. I've laughed so hard i actually hurt. I can't imagine any such training, let alone a graduating class.
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Old 08-31-2012, 12:54 AM   #47
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I have a friend who is just like that too, but with Katanas & anime. He does it in jest though. I'm going to have to assume your friend meant it that way too, but if he didn't then I have to warn you that he'll be one of the first to perish in flame when the great Lord Gozer comes.*

*Ghostbusters reference.
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Old 09-02-2012, 12:26 PM   #48
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I have a friend who is just like that too, but with Katanas & anime. He does it in jest though. I'm going to have to assume your friend meant it that way too, but if he didn't then I have to warn you that he'll be one of the first to perish in flame when the great Lord Gozer comes.*

*Ghostbusters reference.
regretfully I do believe there is only minimal joking here... He is definitely one of those people that has watched a few to many animes and played one to many video games
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Old 09-02-2012, 02:01 PM   #49
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So I'm working third shift tonight and texting a friend since hes between semesters for school and up all night. And we get on the topic of firearms and why I bought a rifle and why I am obtaining my permit to purchase and carry handguns (for the record the reasons are mainly personal protection but also for use in a shtf scenario and because my friends and I are looking for something to do together that we all enjoy).

And he comes out with "I don't trust guns" and I think ok fair enough he has an opinion that has been influenced by anti-gun propaganda. So I get really into detail about how I feel they are an excellent tool for self defense and that even though I carry a pocket knife it will not help me in a scenario where an attacker has gun and/or is several yards away.

Again I get "I don't trust guns" so I quote the concealed carry creed that someone posted from a blog a little ways back

"My weapon is for the protection of my life and the lives of others. That is its sole purpose. It does not confer rights, responsibilities or authority greater than that of other citizens. It merely allows me to protect life.

I will seek never to have to use my weapon. If I can avoid conflict, I will. If I can resolve conflict, I will. If I can escape danger, I will. If I am forced to bring my weapon to bear and use it, I will.

I will acquire superior training with my weapon. It is not the weapon that saves lives, but my effective use of the weapon. I will ensure my training is sound, my knowledge is current, and my mind is prepared.

I will know, understand, and obey all laws and ordinances concerning my weapon no matter where I happen to be. Failure to do so harms all who seek to legally carry an effective means of self protection.

I will know and follow the Four Rules of safe gun handling. I am a member of a growing community that must foster and teach safe and responsible gun handling if the community is to survive."

And again "I don't trust guns". So I try one more argument. A gun has no conscience or consciousness. It is an inanimate object. You are not supposed to trust an inanimate object you are supposed to trust or distrust the person wielding it. So after a final time of I don't trust guns I asked him to explain.

His argument was that he could cut and/or deflect a bullet with his sword (specifically a Greek xiphos) or the even better one to catch it with his hand with enough training. Now it has been tested and proven that in a scientific realm that a bullet fired directly into the blade of an axe/sword will cut the bullet. But that is a stationary weapon fired into a mounted blade at an angle designed to see if the bullet would be cut. In a real world situation something like that would never happen. By dumb luck I'm sure that a bladed weapon could deflect or cut a bullet but I do not believe it possible as matter of skill. And there's certainly no way you would be grabbing bullets out the air. There's not enough adrenaline in your body to create that much of a perceived slowdown of time is there (considering a 9mm 124gr should have a rough muzzle velocity of 1150-1200f/s)?

We decided to admit that we were at an impasse in that argument and move on...
I am very sorry, but this post is really not funny. I say that because the person who holds this belief is a danger to himself or others.

I'll tell you what. Tell your friend that you have someone that will assist him in proving or disproving his theory.

Here's the scenario: We will stand 10 feet apart. He will have his sword, sheathed to at least attempt to duplicate a "normal" carry situation. I will have a Simunitions gun, holstered.

I will draw and fire--without warning--two shots (double tap). If he can catch ONE Sim round on his sword, I will pay him on the spot one thousand dollars in cash.

If he fails, well then--he fails.

I was going to offer to give this guy a full two or three days of instruction on basic firearms handling and safety--but I'm sorry. I don't think that this guy is emotionally ready--or mature enough--to have a loaded firearm.

Please let me know when he accepts or declines my offer.
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I am very sorry, but this post is really not funny. I say that because the person who holds this belief is a danger to himself or others.

I'll tell you what. Tell your friend that you have someone that will assist him in proving or disproving his theory.

Here's the scenario: We will stand 10 feet apart. He will have his sword, sheathed to at least attempt to duplicate a "normal" carry situation. I will have a Simunitions gun, holstered.

I will draw and fire--without warning--two shots (double tap). If he can catch ONE Sim round on his sword, I will pay him on the spot one thousand dollars in cash.

If he fails, well then--he fails.

I was going to offer to give this guy a full two or three days of instruction on basic firearms handling and safety--but I'm sorry. I don't think that this guy is emotionally ready--or mature enough--to have a loaded firearm.

Please let me know when he accepts or declines my offer.
Give him a fighting chance and make it 20 ft and I'll pass it on to him.
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Old 09-02-2012, 06:53 PM   #51
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i'll do it at 100.
i'll even give him a slow motion glue boolit to cut....
or supply some if given a caliber to make them for.
all i want is to see the video.......... go viral.
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Old 09-02-2012, 07:39 PM   #52
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If y'all weren't so far away I'd be more than happy to tape every one of you taking your crack at him.
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Old 09-02-2012, 11:55 PM   #53
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I once saw an interview with bruce lee. I forget the exact wording but he essentially said, a gun beats martial arts every time. I believe the context was that the interviewer asked him if he ever gets in fights out on the street, and his response was all the training in the world doesn't work against a gun.
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Old 09-02-2012, 11:59 PM   #54
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MidwayUSA sponsor a program called "Incredible Shots," or something like that. I've seen precision trick shooters split a bullet on an axe blade and pop balloons set off at about a 30 degree angle 15 feet behind the axe with the pieces. Even at short range, it is apparently a difficult shot to make, though Annie Oakley did it regularly when she was with Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show.
The blade has to be fixed and the bullet fired at it at a precise angle. No human has the reflex speed necessary to move a blade into position. You would have to be able to move faster than the speed of sound. On that note, if he's reacting to the sound of the gunshot, he's already been hit.
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