Wednesday, May 18, 1927

12-13-2003, 08:26 AM

Consolidated School of Bath, Bath, Michigan

Farmer Andrew Kehoe went out for revenge when his farm mortgage was foreclosed upon and the taxes he was paying went to a new school building. Andrew was the treasurer on the school board, but he quickly became disgruntled and demented when his taxes started going to the school. This morning, he planted dynamite in the school's basement and left the doomed children and school behind. At 9:40 a.m., ten minutes after school had started for the day, school violence became a part of American history. The north wing of the school exploded, killing nearly 40 students and teachers. The fuses in the south wing were smoldering, but timely discovery of the dynamite allowed it to be defused, or else up to 260 students and all the teachers would have died. As parents rushed toward the blast, Andrew drove back into the school yard. He waved over Emory E. Huyk, the school superintendent, then fired a shot into the back seat of his car that was filled with more dynamite. By noon, the two explosions had killed 38 students; two teachers; Emory Huyk, the superintendent; Glenn Smith, the village postmaster; a retired farmer, Nelson McFarhen and the demented Andrew. 58 students and teachers were injured in the blast. The next morning, his wife's body was found in an outbuilding on their farm with her skull crushed. Andrew had dynamited his home, barn and wagon shed, all were still on fire when villagers arrived. Bath is eight miles northeast of Lansing.

12-13-2003, 08:27 AM

http://www.columbine-angels.com/other_shootings.htm

12-13-2003, 08:31 AM

University of Texas, Austin, Texas

Monday, August 1, 1966

University of Texas junior Charles Joseph Whitman was an architectural engineer student with B average. Charles's spring and summer semesters were overfilled with credit hours. Sometime between 9:30 p.m. July 31, and 3 a.m. August 1, Charles drove to his mother's home, Margaret, on West 13th and Guadalupe and stabbed her in the chest with a bayonet, then he shot and killed her. He then drove back to his home on Jewel and stabbed his sleeping wife, Kathy Whitman, with the same bayonet. In the morning, before 10:30 a.m., Charles bought a .30-calibur rifle, clips and ammunition from a nearby hardware store. Then he continued his shopping at Sears in the Hancock shopping center where he bought a 12-guage shotgun on credit. During the next 45 minutes, Charles packed up an alarm clock, Spam, cans of peaches and sausage, deodorant, a knife, a canteen of water, a machete, 700 rounds of ammunition, a rifle he had already owned, two handguns and his two new guns into his Marine issued footlocker. At 11:25 a.m. he arrived at the ground floor of the Tower at Texas University and told the guard that he needed to unload equipment at the Experimental Science Building. He was issued a parking permit. Charles carried his trunk to the elevator, road it up to the 27th floor, then carried the trunk up a flight of stairs to the 28th floor, where he began the nation's worst school shooting ever by killing Edna Townsley. Edna worked at the Tower by greeting guests and asking them to sign into the register. Charles hid Edna's body. Unaware of the danger they were walking into, the Gabour and Lamport families arrived to see the campus from atop the Tower. He killed Marguerite Lampert and her nephew Mark Gabour, and wounded two others inside the Tower's tight confines. At 11:45 a.m., Charles began shooting from atop the Tower to the people below. He killed a youth on a bicycle and shot police officer Billy Speed in the shoulder, however, Billy's wound proved to be fatal. Patrolmen Ramiro Martinez and Houston McCoy stormed the top of the Tower and Ramiro was able to end the shootings with a six pistol slugs and a shotgun blast to kill Charles Whitman. Charles killed a total of 13 people and wounded 29 others in the 90 minute attack. During the autopsy, doctors found a pecan size tumor in his brain, which caused Charles to have headaches, but was ruled not the overriding factor that led him to the massacre. On Monday, November 12, 2001, survivor David Gunby, 58, died in Fort Worth, Texas. He was shot in the back by Charles on August 1, 1966. The medical examiner ruled his death a homicide in conjunction with the shootings on the UT campus.

Oxford · 12-13-2003, 08:42 AM

I'm not sure what your point was, but to me they were all senseless murders. Didn't matter how they died whether it was by guns, dynamite, or some other method. Those were actions by people who were mentally sick. Guns were not at fault. No sane person could subject other humans to such horror. They used whatever killing tools they could find.

It's hard for me to understand how any human can take another person's life, other than in war or in self defense.

Ox

12-13-2003, 08:48 AM

just illustrating that school violence isn't new..video games aren't at fault..sometimes kids aren't even at fault

Oxford · 12-13-2003, 09:15 AM

This list of slaughters in the educational field started many years earlier when some Greek and Roman scholars were murdered by people who were threatened by their teachings. The fear of new ideas severely threatened some people.

The Chinese Red Guard repeated this in more modern times.

However, in most of the cases sited in your first post, the motives were probably revenge, hate, or simply mental illness.

12-13-2003, 01:27 PM

I used to live in a town bordering Bath, MI. The horrible memory still lingers there. If the guy had known how to wire that bomb better, it would have destroyed the entire school, and everyone in it. Thank god he screwed up...

Oxford · 12-13-2003, 05:42 PM

Bath, MI has a link to Bath, UK and even to the Roman Empire era...possibly even to the ancient Greek civililization.

Here's more.
Ox
-------------------

Community Information (Bath MI)

The first settler in the area was Ira Cushman and his family in 1836. Because he came from Canada, it is believed he named the township after Bath, England. The land of the village itself was first entered and settled by a Mexican War veteran, Dustin Marr. He sold out to Charles Thompkins, and when the Michigan Central Railroad came through, Mr. Thompkins gave land for dept and yard purposes, and the village began. Given a post
office on June 7, 1858. Platted in 1864.

Informational excerpts from Michigan Place Names, by Walter Romig, L.H.D.

12-13-2003, 08:26 AM	#1
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	Wednesday, May 18, 1927 Consolidated School of Bath, Bath, Michigan Farmer Andrew Kehoe went out for revenge when his farm mortgage was foreclosed upon and the taxes he was paying went to a new school building. Andrew was the treasurer on the school board, but he quickly became disgruntled and demented when his taxes started going to the school. This morning, he planted dynamite in the school's basement and left the doomed children and school behind. At 9:40 a.m., ten minutes after school had started for the day, school violence became a part of American history. The north wing of the school exploded, killing nearly 40 students and teachers. The fuses in the south wing were smoldering, but timely discovery of the dynamite allowed it to be defused, or else up to 260 students and all the teachers would have died. As parents rushed toward the blast, Andrew drove back into the school yard. He waved over Emory E. Huyk, the school superintendent, then fired a shot into the back seat of his car that was filled with more dynamite. By noon, the two explosions had killed 38 students; two teachers; Emory Huyk, the superintendent; Glenn Smith, the village postmaster; a retired farmer, Nelson McFarhen and the demented Andrew. 58 students and teachers were injured in the blast. The next morning, his wife's body was found in an outbuilding on their farm with her skull crushed. Andrew had dynamited his home, barn and wagon shed, all were still on fire when villagers arrived. Bath is eight miles northeast of Lansing.

12-13-2003, 08:27 AM	#2
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	source here http://www.columbine-angels.com/other_shootings.htm

12-13-2003, 08:42 AM	#4
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,023 Blog Entries: 4	I'm not sure what your point was, but to me they were all senseless murders. Didn't matter how they died whether it was by guns, dynamite, or some other method. Those were actions by people who were mentally sick. Guns were not at fault. No sane person could subject other humans to such horror. They used whatever killing tools they could find. It's hard for me to understand how any human can take another person's life, other than in war or in self defense. Ox __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

12-13-2003, 09:15 AM	#6
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,023 Blog Entries: 4	This list of slaughters in the educational field started many years earlier when some Greek and Roman scholars were murdered by people who were threatened by their teachings. The fear of new ideas severely threatened some people. The Chinese Red Guard repeated this in more modern times. However, in most of the cases sited in your first post, the motives were probably revenge, hate, or simply mental illness. __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

12-13-2003, 05:42 PM	#8
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,023 Blog Entries: 4	Bath, MI has a link to Bath, UK and even to the Roman Empire era...possibly even to the ancient Greek civililization. Here's more. Ox ------------------- Community Information (Bath MI) The first settler in the area was Ira Cushman and his family in 1836. Because he came from Canada, it is believed he named the township after Bath, England. The land of the village itself was first entered and settled by a Mexican War veteran, Dustin Marr. He sold out to Charles Thompkins, and when the Michigan Central Railroad came through, Mr. Thompkins gave land for dept and yard purposes, and the village began. Given a post office on June 7, 1858. Platted in 1864. Informational excerpts from Michigan Place Names, by Walter Romig, L.H.D. __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

12-13-2003, 08:31 AM	#3
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	University of Texas, Austin, Texas Monday, August 1, 1966 University of Texas junior Charles Joseph Whitman was an architectural engineer student with B average. Charles's spring and summer semesters were overfilled with credit hours. Sometime between 9:30 p.m. July 31, and 3 a.m. August 1, Charles drove to his mother's home, Margaret, on West 13th and Guadalupe and stabbed her in the chest with a bayonet, then he shot and killed her. He then drove back to his home on Jewel and stabbed his sleeping wife, Kathy Whitman, with the same bayonet. In the morning, before 10:30 a.m., Charles bought a .30-calibur rifle, clips and ammunition from a nearby hardware store. Then he continued his shopping at Sears in the Hancock shopping center where he bought a 12-guage shotgun on credit. During the next 45 minutes, Charles packed up an alarm clock, Spam, cans of peaches and sausage, deodorant, a knife, a canteen of water, a machete, 700 rounds of ammunition, a rifle he had already owned, two handguns and his two new guns into his Marine issued footlocker. At 11:25 a.m. he arrived at the ground floor of the Tower at Texas University and told the guard that he needed to unload equipment at the Experimental Science Building. He was issued a parking permit. Charles carried his trunk to the elevator, road it up to the 27th floor, then carried the trunk up a flight of stairs to the 28th floor, where he began the nation's worst school shooting ever by killing Edna Townsley. Edna worked at the Tower by greeting guests and asking them to sign into the register. Charles hid Edna's body. Unaware of the danger they were walking into, the Gabour and Lamport families arrived to see the campus from atop the Tower. He killed Marguerite Lampert and her nephew Mark Gabour, and wounded two others inside the Tower's tight confines. At 11:45 a.m., Charles began shooting from atop the Tower to the people below. He killed a youth on a bicycle and shot police officer Billy Speed in the shoulder, however, Billy's wound proved to be fatal. Patrolmen Ramiro Martinez and Houston McCoy stormed the top of the Tower and Ramiro was able to end the shootings with a six pistol slugs and a shotgun blast to kill Charles Whitman. Charles killed a total of 13 people and wounded 29 others in the 90 minute attack. During the autopsy, doctors found a pecan size tumor in his brain, which caused Charles to have headaches, but was ruled not the overriding factor that led him to the massacre. On Monday, November 12, 2001, survivor David Gunby, 58, died in Fort Worth, Texas. He was shot in the back by Charles on August 1, 1966. The medical examiner ruled his death a homicide in conjunction with the shootings on the UT campus.

12-13-2003, 08:48 AM	#5
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	just illustrating that school violence isn't new..video games aren't at fault..sometimes kids aren't even at fault

12-13-2003, 01:27 PM	#7
Lenny2 Guest Posts: n/a	I used to live in a town bordering Bath, MI. The horrible memory still lingers there. If the guy had known how to wire that bomb better, it would have destroyed the entire school, and everyone in it. Thank god he screwed up...