01-09-2004, 05:41 PM
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#21 | | Retired Moderator
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Nor anywhere else on the web. How dare you do this to me, Max! A high velocity 308 caliber cartridge named Battlestar and I can't find ANY info on it ANYWHERE!!! Man, you're askin for it.
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01-09-2004, 08:27 PM
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#22 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Sorry G3, I've even looked around to see if I could help you find more info. The Battlestar is the newest hypermagnum out of Lazzeroni's laboratory but I thought the Lazz websire would have some small mention about it? There's a sidebar in the October 03 American Rifleman that gives the basics on the Battlestar, but your right - nothing on the information superhighway that I can find either?
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01-09-2004, 08:34 PM
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It's a conspiracy!
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01-20-2010, 10:01 AM
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| Barnes and .35
See if I can answer both of your questions here gentlemen...
Max, I've seen great results with the Barnes Bullets given they are properly matched to game, and velocities perfected. Not saying burn up rounds in ballistics gel, just don't over or underload these guys too much. They are "built" to expand properly at near factory velocities, so underloading or overloading can give issues of not reaching full expansion, or not retaining weight optimally. Given proper loads (including federal premium factory with Barnes TSX) They've provided massive wound channels with minimal weight loss in deer and elk.
Battlerifle, I've had great luck with the .35 and 150 or 200 grainiers on deer and hog, and a fellow gun-guy co-worker of mine swears by his for black bear, especially with the new hornady leverevolution loads.
I'd also add this for the .35:
I own one in a marlin 336, it's a sidekick to my .17hmr on prairie-dog towns around here. No I don't blast away at 'dogs with the .35 (though now that I've said that I'm definitely going to try it out this spring!). The .35 is a defensive rifle I keep handy on the town. It stays loaded with Hornady leverevolution for my arch-enemy... Badgers! The town I most often frequest has a number of the angry devels around and there's nothing in this world that scares me like a momma badger charging to mawl me after I've dispatched one of her little ones with the .17.
Could I kill said badger with the .17, of course, but I've also seen a badger take 4 rounds of .30-06 to the body and not be impressed.
The .35 with an aperture rear sight on the reciever, and a brass bead front (or fiber-optic as is my preference) comes up quick, allows quick follow up-shots, and can be re-loaded with the gun cocked with one in the chamber when approaching a downed animal. (Why i use it for this purpose, and my buddy does for bear). Not to mention the additional "thump!" from a .358!
As a defensive gun even in the lever action platform it is effective, and in my neck-of-the-woods draws no attention hanging in the back window of my truck.
Hope that provides som insight.
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01-20-2010, 10:43 AM
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#25 | | Firearm Zealot
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the 308 far out powers the 35 Rem. but they both have their place the 35 Remington can be put in a nice lever action for the woods where as the 308 has to have a very strong action. (yes I know Browning makes a 308 lever but its made much stronger than a standard lever) the 35 is a good brush gun the 308 will reach out farther for longer range. Both are fine cartridges but for different situations.
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01-20-2010, 04:11 PM
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#26 | | Firearm Aficionado
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The 35 rem will kill just about anything in North America with the right bullet. 357 pistol bullets are good for punching paper, and speer provides load data with their .357 pistol bullets. The 220gr. speer will take game up onto elk and other stuff, and the 180gr. speer, 200gr hornady JSP, or the rem core-lokt will take care of the other stuff.
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01-20-2010, 10:15 PM
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#27 | | Firearm Aficionado
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This thread is six years old, by the way.
Just thinking of being able buy 1,200 rounds of .308 surplus for only $120 makes me want to CRY....
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01-21-2010, 06:27 AM
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#28 | | Firearm Zealot
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| Well,
the .308 case has several variants of which my favorite applicable to what I feel are your purposes is the 7mm/08.
Federal has a .338/08 their promo material gives you the feeling they invented although wildcatters had this cartridge before Federal came out with it.
Of course, there is the .35 Remington.
I rather suspect the .308 is most in line with your needs and desires due to wide availability.
If you take a gun such as a .35 remington and load it with lower weight bullets driven to a higher velocity you can become very inaccurate as the rifling twist can no longer stabilize the bullet. This is something many shooters fail to realize. The standard rate of rifling twist for any cartridge will stabilize bullets from that caliber within certain bullet weights and velocities. Going beyond this point will result in ever increasing inaccuracy.
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