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| Super Moderator ![]() | PRK Ammo tax is back .10 per round or component Be glad most of us live in the free country Assemblyman Mark Ridley-Thomas (D-48, a real dirtbag crybaby liberal) of West Los Angeles has taken AB 992 off the inactive list, and it could be heard before the Assembley as early as next Monday, January 26th!!! This is the ammo tax that would add 10 cents per round, or component for reloading (e.g., primers, wads, hulls, cases), to any ammunition purchased in the state, or purchased outside of the state for use or storage in the state. Opposition was so strong that it was taken off the table last June. But it has been lurking the the background, and now it is back. Bill below BILL NUMBER: AB 992 AMENDED BILL TEXT AMENDED IN ASSEMBLY JUNE 2, 2003 AMENDED IN ASSEMBLY MAY 5, 2003 AMENDED IN ASSEMBLY APRIL 22, 2003 INTRODUCED BY Assembly Members Ridley-Thomas and Koretz (Coauthors: Assembly Members Goldberg and Nunez , Hancock, Lieber, Nunez, and Steinberg ) (Coauthor: Senator Soto) FEBRUARY 20, 2003 An act to add Chapter 2.8 (commencing with Section 12330) to Title 2 of Part 4 of the Penal Code, relating to ammunition , and making an appropriation therefor . LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST AB 992, as amended, Ridley-Thomas. Ammunition: Firearm Victims' Reimbursement Fund. Existing law generally regulates the sale of ammunition. This bill would impose a fee of 10 on every munition, as defined, sold at retail. The fees would be paid to the State Board of Equalization, and deposited in the Firearm Victims' Reimbursement Fund , a continuously appropriated fund that would be established by the bill . The Firearm Victims' Reimbursement Fund would be used , upon appropriation, to pay firearm-injury victims for uncompensated pecuniary losses and to pay for related administrative costs , as specified. a By establishing a continuously appropriated fund, this bill would make an appropriation. The bill would require the Board of Equalization, on an annual basis beginning January 1, 2005, to adjust the fee for inflation. Vote: majority. Appropriation: yes no . Fiscal committee: yes. State-mandated local program: no. THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS: SECTION 1. Chapter 2.8 (commencing with Section 12330) is added to Title 2 of Part 4 of the Penal Code, to read: CHAPTER 2.8. FIREARM VICTIMS' REIMBURSEMENT FUND 12330. (a) (1) There shall be imposed a fee upon all munitions sold at retail at the rate of 10 cents ($0.10) for each munition sold at retail in this state on or after January 1, 2004. (2) Except as provided in paragraph (1), the fee shall also be imposed upon and paid by the purchaser of munitions for munitions purchased outside of the state and that are intended to be stored or used in the state. (3) The fee imposed pursuant to this section shall not exceed the costs authorized for expenditure pursuant to subdivisions (f) and (g). (b) The fees imposed by this section shall be administered and enforced by the State Board of Equalization. (c) For purposes of this section, "munition" means either a finished munition product consisting of a projectile with its fuse, propelling charge, or primer, or a primer component, as applicable. "Munition" does not include a BB or a pellet commonly used in an air rifle or pistol , or "blank" munitions which lack a projectile . (d) The fee provided for in this section may not be imposed upon any munition or primer component purchased by any peace officer required to carry a firearm while on duty, or by any governmental law enforcement agency employing that officer, for use in the normal course of employment. (e) All amounts required to be paid to the state under this section shall be paid to the State Board of Equalization in the form of remittances that are payable to that board and are separate from the remittance of any other fee. The board shall transmit the payments to the Treasurer to be deposited in the State Treasury to the credit of the Firearm Victims' Reimbursement Fund, which is hereby created. (f) Notwithstanding Section 13340 of the Government Code, the Firearm Victims' Reimbursement Fund is continuously appropriated, without regard to fiscal years, as follows: (1) To the State Board of Equalization the to pay for the board's (f) The Victims' Reimbursement Fund may be used, upon appropriation by the Legislature, for the following purposes: (1) To pay the State Board of Equalization for the board's cost of implementation and administration of this section, which cost in any fiscal year may not exceed 5 percent of the total amount of moneys deposited in the fund in that fiscal year. (2) The fund shall be administered by the California Victims Compensation and Government Claims Board in a similar manner and for similar purposes as the board administers the Restitution Fund except that it shall not be limited to victims of crime. (3) The fund shall (2) To pay the California Victims Compensation and Government Claims Board for the board's cost of implementation and administration of this section, which cost in any fiscal year may not exceed 5 percent of the total amount of moneys deposited in the fund in that fiscal year. (3) To compensate those persons who are injured by firearms and who suffer uncompensated pecuniary loss. (g) The fund shall be administered by the California Victims Compensation and Government Claims Board in a similar manner and for similar purposes as the board administers the Restitution Fund, except that it shall not be limited to victims of crime. (h) If the amount credited to the Firearm Victims' Reimbursement Fund exceeds the amount necessary to fully cover reimbursable costs pursuant to subdivision (f), the State Board of Equalization shall temporarily adjust, for the following one-year period, the fee to be charged pursuant to subdivision (a) to an amount estimated to deplete any surplus in the fund during the next calendar year. (h) Except as provided in subdivision (g), the fee imposed pursuant to subdivision (a) shall be increased by one cent every two years, commencing January 1, 2006, provided however, that fee imposed pursuant to this section shall not exceed the costs authorized for expenditure pursuant to subdivision (f). (i) Except as provided in subdivision (h), the Board of Equalization shall, on an annual basis beginning on January 1, 2005, adjust the fee imposed pursuant to subdivision (a) for inflation based upon the California Consumer Price Index provided by the California Department of Industrial Relations, rounded to the nearest whole cent. (j) The Board of Equalization and the California Victims Compensation and Government Claims Board shall adopt regulations necessary to implement this chapter.
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| whats the Govenator's position on this??? |
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| Super Moderator ![]() | I think we will need someone in PRK to tell us -- I found this on another forum
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| But firearms are not allowed in Calf...so why do they need ammo???????? |
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| Super Moderator ![]() | just imagine if we had to pay 10 cents extra for every round we have reloaded or fired. --- I can see people stockpiling high quantities if this were to pass. Just imagine what the taxes would be on a $8 carton of 525 22lr's = $52.50 = 525x.10
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| FAVORITE ANTI'S PLOY if they cannot out right ban guns, just tax and regulate everything else associated with it |
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| Unfortunately the Govenator does support gun control, I am not sure of his exact position but I know that he is not a big time 2nd amendment supporter. Last year when this came up there seemed to be a lot of resistance to this bill, but I have not heard anything on this time around, so maybe they are trying to sneak it pass us this timeā¦. |
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| Super Moderator ![]() | Allen are you going to volunteer to be our inside person on the tracking of this bill
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| ...an add in one of my old RNA magazines featuring Joe Leiberman suggesting just that,taxing ammo out of reach of the American citizens and this included having to sign for the ammo so the tax would be accurite. Sounds a bit like the background check,when it first started folks that had concealed carry permits were exempt,but soon all had to submit to the check,so it could be stored in the gummint records. I wouldn't object to a backgroud check if that's all it was,I know the Fed is going to destroy the records,yeah,right. As far as I am concerned they worked too hard and have too much tied up in their high priority records to destroy them. By the way,for all you Ashes series fans,I read the latest issue,Escape from the ashes and Ben Raines died and a new series will start,seems like a bit biological warfare did it to most of the world.
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| Super Moderator ![]() | I did some looking over the weekend regarding this guy and he is behind several of these ridiculous bills. One he proposed would have required a serial number on every bullet and then the registration of each round
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| I can already see the huge blackmarket for ammo. Raising the price wont do anything except to slow legal sales and increase the illegal sales. I'm sure bad guys have already figured this out. Buy the ammo or components elsewhere and smuggle them to PRK. A whole new market will open up. |
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| Super Moderator ![]() | Ammo Tax Update (PRK) The bill went to vote this afternoon and here are the results AB 992 (Ridley-Thomas) - Ammo Tax - After being defeated in 2003, the NRA Members' Councils of California learned late Friday, 1/23/2004, that this outrageous attack on the law-abiding shooting community had re-appeared in a surprise move on the Assembly floor. AB 992 would levy a tax on the sale of ammunition of 10 cents on every cartridge sold at retail to fund a "Victims Reimbursement Fund." During today's Assembly floor session, file item 67, known to us as AB992 (ammo tax) was moved back onto the "Inactive file." Legislators, and their staffs, report that a heavy volume of calls, faxes, and emails were waiting for them when they arrived at their offices this morning. It seems that your activities this past weekend have had the desired affect. Thank you.
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| sounds like a page out of Moynihan's book.. S. 152: Introduced by Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan (NY-D)- would increase the tax on handgun ammunition and impose special occupational tax and registration requirements on importers and manufactures of handgun ammunition. To the Committee on Finance. S. 153: Introduced by Sen. Moynihan- would prohibit the use of certain ammunition. To the Committee on the Judiciary. S. 154: Introduced by Sen. Moynihan- A bill to amend title 18, US Code, with respect to the licensing of - ammunition manufacturers, and for other purposes; To the Committee on the Judiciary. S. 155: Introduced by Sen. Moynihan- would require the collection and dissemination of information on injuries, death and family dissolution due to bullet-related violence; require the keeping of records with respect to dispositions of ammunition, and increase taxes on certain bullets. To the Committee on Finance. S. 156: Introduced by Sen. Moynihan- would prohibit the manufacture, transfer or importation of .25 cal., .32 cal. and 9 mm ammunition. To the Committee on the Judiciary. S. 157 Sen. Moynihan- would tax 9 mm, .25 cal. and .32 cal. bullets at 1,000%. To the Committee on Finance. S. 158: Introduced by Sen. Moynihan (D-NY)- would regulate the manufacture, importation and sale of ammunition capable of piercing police body armor. To the Committee on the Judiciary. S. 193: Introduced by Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA)- would apply the same quality and safety standards to domestically manufactured handguns that are currently applied to imported handguns. To the Committee on the Judiciary. S. 319: Introduced by Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ)- A bill to provide for childproof handguns, and for other purposes; to the Committee on the Judiciary. S. 407: Introduced by Sen. Lautenberg (D-NJ)- A bill to reduce gun trafficking by prohibiting bulk - purchases of handguns; to the Committee on the Judiciary. S. 443: Introduced by Sen. Lautenberg (D-NJ)- A bill to regulate the sale of firearms at gun shows; to the Committee on the Judiciary. S. 457: Introduced by Sen. Durbin (D-IL)- A bill to amend section 922(t) of title 18, US Code, to require the reporting of information to the chief law enforcement officer of the buyer's residence and to require a minimum 72-hour waiting period before the purchase of a handgun, and for other purposes; to the Committee on the Judiciary. S. 534: Introduced by Sen. Torricelli (D-NJ)- A bill to expand the powers of the Secretary of the Treasury to regulate the manufacture, distribution, and sale of firearms and ammunition, and to expand the jurisdiction of the Secretary to include firearm products and non-powder firearms; to the Committee on the Judiciary. S. 560: Introduced by Sen. Lautenberg (D-NJ)- A bill to reform the manner in which firearms are manufactured and distributed by providing an incentive to State and local governments to bring claims for the rising costs of gun violence in their communities; to the Committee on the Judiciary. S. 594: Introduced by Sen. Feinstein (D-CA)- A bill to ban the importation of large capacity ammunition feeding devices; to the Committee on the Judiciary. S. 637: Introduced by Sen. Schumer (D-NY)- A bill to amend title 18, United States Code, to regulate the transfer of firearms over the Internet, and for other purposes; to the Committee on the Judiciary. S. 891: Introduced by Sen. Schumer (D-NY) - Juvenile Gun Loophole Closure Act. A bill to amend section 922(x) of title 18, U.S. Code, to prohibit the transfer to and possession of handguns, semi-automatic assault weapons, and large capacity ammunition feeding devices by individuals who are less than 21 years of age, and for other purposes; to the Committee on the Judiciary. |
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| Holy crap Shaun, I never even heard anything about it. Thanks for the info, your was the first. The !!!!!!!s were trying to sneak it by us..... |
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