Federal Firearms License

thor · 01-25-2004, 12:25 PM

I very seriously considering getting my FFL. Any information on this topic would be greatly appreciated.:

assult:

Thanks,

Les

Oxford · 01-25-2004, 12:29 PM

Les, the closest I'll ever get to that is my car license plate which reads FFL 258.

thor · 01-25-2004, 12:29 PM

I am very seriously considering (brain cramp)

PAPA G · 01-25-2004, 12:42 PM

so much to do, before you can apply you need a shop, that meets code for the area, and has protection, i.e. sturdy barred windows, reinforced entry ways. you need to also meet what ever NY state, County and Local requires.

the old days of just getting the FFL and working out of the home are over. but good luck if you do it.

NRAJOE · 01-25-2004, 01:07 PM

Sure you don't wanna just get a C&R license? Alot easier, alot cheaper (well until the BBT starts coming to your door everyday)

Shaun · 01-25-2004, 01:26 PM

Thor I hope you have plenty of money to spend for safes and extra security -- also a regular FFL requires commecial zoning from what I found out several years ago and then you are also subject to spot inspections on your door step

if you go the C&R root you are a lot safer.

Doglips · 01-25-2004, 01:31 PM

MY understanding is that you have too also have all nesscessary tax permits..and occupational lic BEFORE you apply...belive it is a $300 fee per Lic period....Have regular business hours...Im sure the local police have some say if you get one too...Of course you need a nice set of comfortable chairs for the AFT agents that will be spendign a lot of quality time with you

PAPA G · 01-25-2004, 01:32 PM

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Originally posted by NRAJOE
Sure you don't wanna just get a C&R license? Alot easier, alot cheaper (well until the BBT starts coming to your door everyday)

i'm going on the assumption that Thor is looking to have a gunshop.

NRAJOE · 01-25-2004, 01:35 PM

When you !!!ume, you make an !!! out of u AND me !

Oxford · 01-25-2004, 01:48 PM

Clean that up Joe. !!! isn't allowed here.

NRAJOE · 01-25-2004, 01:51 PM

Evidently....lets see, a donkey is a "Jackass"..testing, testing...

Sniper[MI] · 01-25-2004, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NRAJOE
Evidently....lets see, a donkey is a "Jackass"..testing, testing...

And so is Sen McCain!

NRAJOE · 01-25-2004, 02:21 PM

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Originally posted by Sniper[MI]
And so is Sen McCain!

:right:

NRAJOE · 01-25-2004, 02:22 PM

And "Dashole" and "Billary"and......

thor · 01-25-2004, 03:27 PM

What is a C&R License?

Not interested in opening a gun shop. Strike that! I am but lack of time and money prohibits it. The reason I wanted an FFL is for buying my own guns (better prices) and supplying enough to my friends and hunting companions to support my own firearm habits.
From what I have read today, it may not be feasable. It seems they have made it allot rougher than years ago. Thanks for the input.

Les

NRAJOE · 01-25-2004, 03:28 PM

http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/sho...threadid=16879 (FFL vs C&R)

SPOCAHP ANAR · 01-25-2004, 06:41 PM

I looked at getting an FFL about 4yrs ago. Several things stopped me at one time or another school shootings, politics, etc...

But the rumors abound. I asked several dealers (like they were gonna be honest) $1000 dollars and for the fee and they keep it whether you get the license or not etc....

Its $200 dollars for the fee, you have to have a business permit from the county (occupational permit). I know a Gunsmith with an FFL who works out of his house in a residential neighborhood. I have bought from him myself. He does order for a processing fee and specializes in sporterizing mausers to quality hunting rifles. No bars on his house that I can recall. Keeps his inventory in his house and has a shop outback. Alot of misinformation out there. If you have any questions just call ATF. They will answer them in full....(right after they put you on a list of gun owners in which you will be the first to be visited when they confiscate) .... seriously, get a C&R and find yourself a dealer that orders for a small processing fee and be happy.

01-25-2004, 12:25 PM	#1
thor Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Western Upstate New York Posts: 6	Federal Firearms License I very seriously considering getting my FFL. Any information on this topic would be greatly appreciated.: assult: Thanks, Les

01-25-2004, 12:29 PM	#2
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,110 Blog Entries: 4	Les, the closest I'll ever get to that is my car license plate which reads FFL 258. __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right". Last edited by Oxford; 01-25-2004 at 12:52 PM.

01-25-2004, 12:42 PM	#4
PAPA G Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 11	ITS A NIGHTMARE......................... so much to do, before you can apply you need a shop, that meets code for the area, and has protection, i.e. sturdy barred windows, reinforced entry ways. you need to also meet what ever NY state, County and Local requires. the old days of just getting the FFL and working out of the home are over. but good luck if you do it.

01-25-2004, 01:07 PM	#5
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,255 Images: 3	Sure you don't wanna just get a C&R license? Alot easier, alot cheaper (well until the BBT starts coming to your door everyday) __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

01-25-2004, 01:26 PM	#6
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,620 Images: 1	Thor I hope you have plenty of money to spend for safes and extra security -- also a regular FFL requires commecial zoning from what I found out several years ago and then you are also subject to spot inspections on your door step if you go the C&R root you are a lot safer. __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

01-25-2004, 01:31 PM	#7
Doglips Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cocoa Florida Posts: 9,088	MY understanding is that you have too also have all nesscessary tax permits..and occupational lic BEFORE you apply...belive it is a $300 fee per Lic period....Have regular business hours...Im sure the local police have some say if you get one too...Of course you need a nice set of comfortable chairs for the AFT agents that will be spendign a lot of quality time with you

01-25-2004, 01:35 PM	#9
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,255 Images: 3	When you !!!ume, you make an !!! out of u AND me ! __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

01-25-2004, 01:48 PM	#10
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,110 Blog Entries: 4	Clean that up Joe. !!! isn't allowed here. __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

01-25-2004, 01:51 PM	#11
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,255 Images: 3	Evidently....lets see, a donkey is a "Jackass"..testing, testing... __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

01-25-2004, 02:22 PM	#14
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,255 Images: 3	And "Dashole" and "Billary"and...... __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

01-25-2004, 03:27 PM	#15
thor Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Western Upstate New York Posts: 6	C R license What is a C&R License? Not interested in opening a gun shop. Strike that! I am but lack of time and money prohibits it. The reason I wanted an FFL is for buying my own guns (better prices) and supplying enough to my friends and hunting companions to support my own firearm habits. From what I have read today, it may not be feasable. It seems they have made it allot rougher than years ago. Thanks for the input. Les

01-25-2004, 03:28 PM	#16
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,255 Images: 3	http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/sho...threadid=16879 (FFL vs C&R) __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

01-25-2004, 06:41 PM	#17
SPOCAHP ANAR Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SC-upstate Posts: 4,192 Images: 1 Blog Entries: 6	I looked at getting an FFL about 4yrs ago. Several things stopped me at one time or another school shootings, politics, etc... But the rumors abound. I asked several dealers (like they were gonna be honest) $1000 dollars and for the fee and they keep it whether you get the license or not etc.... Its $200 dollars for the fee, you have to have a business permit from the county (occupational permit). I know a Gunsmith with an FFL who works out of his house in a residential neighborhood. I have bought from him myself. He does order for a processing fee and specializes in sporterizing mausers to quality hunting rifles. No bars on his house that I can recall. Keeps his inventory in his house and has a shop outback. Alot of misinformation out there. If you have any questions just call ATF. They will answer them in full....(right after they put you on a list of gun owners in which you will be the first to be visited when they confiscate) .... seriously, get a C&R and find yourself a dealer that orders for a small processing fee and be happy. __________________ Spocrest Out!..........