Ahnold say, STOP!

Sniper[MI] · 02-20-2004, 10:49 PM

Schwarzenegger orders attorney general to halt gay marriages
BETH FOUHY, Associated Press Writer
Friday, February 20, 2004
©2004 Associated Press

URL: sfgate.com/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/02/20/state2325EST0245.DTL

(02-20) 20:43 PST BURLINGAME, Calif. (AP) --

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger ordered California's attorney general Friday to take legal action to stop San Francisco from granting marriage licenses to gay couples.

In a letter to Attorney General Bill Lockyer, Schwarzenegger directed the state's top lawyer "to take immediate steps" to get a definitive court ruling declaring what the city is doing to be illegal.

"Our civilized society and legal system is based upon a respect for and adherence to the rule of law. The City and County of San Francisco's unfortunate choice to disregard state law and grant marriage certificates to gay couples directly undermines this fundamental guarantee," Schwarzenegger wrote. "As Attorney General, you have the authority to take legal action to require the City and County of San Francisco to comply with the laws of the State."

Schwarzenegger was scheduled to appear at the California Republican Party's convention Friday night, and his spokesman said the governor planned to touch on the recent events in San Francisco in his speech to party members.

"You have, at this point, nearly two weeks of flouting of state law. The governor feels that we've come to a point where we're starting down a dangerous path and it leads to anarchy at some point," said Rob Stutzman, Schwarzenegger's communications director. "It's time for this to end."

Stutzman said that Schwarzenegger's directive to the attorney general was prompted in part by a Superior Court judge's decision Friday not to impose a temporary restraining order on the city that would have halted the weeklong parade of 3,175 same-sex weddings.

Lockyer, an elected Democrat who is a potential candidate in the 2006 governor's race, already has said that he plans to vigorously defend the state in the lawsuit San Francisco's city attorney brought Thursday that challenged California's marriage laws on constitutional grounds.

"By virtue of the city and county of San Francisco having sued the state of California, we need to respond to that lawsuit in the next 30 days," said Nathan Barankin, a spokesman for Lockyer said Friday. "It will be squarely before the courts."

San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom, who directed the county clerk to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples last week, has defended his actions by saying California's Constitution prohibits discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.

The mayor's spokesman, Peter Ragone, scoffed at Schwarzenegger's directive to the attorney general, noting that two judges have already declined to grant emergency orders sought by two conservative opponents of marriage rights for gays and lesbians.

"The truth is, thousands of people are involved in loving relationships and having them recognized for the first time," Ragone said. "We urge the governor to meet with some of the couples because what's happening is both lawful and loving."

Oxford · 02-20-2004, 11:23 PM

Schwarzenegger's on the right track but about 3,100 gay marriages too late.

:jaw:

They're nuts in the ROK.:insane:

Despoiler · 02-21-2004, 12:07 AM

Swartzenegger should have had the mayor arrested. After all he is breaking California law.

Big Dog · 02-21-2004, 05:04 AM

Steps the Terminator should be following:

1) Arrest the Mayor of SF and all his cronies involved in this travesty.

2) Anull all illegal "marriages" immediately.

3) Levy a stiff financial penalty on all guilty parties - hey, California still needs money, right?

colt45 · 02-21-2004, 06:49 AM

send them all from across the country to kali to get thier marige lisences then give them all a free weekend on catalina island, now we get the airforce some practice and knock the island back under the sea.
this idiot mayor calls it loveing going on, i call it sick, imoral, and just plain wrong.

SPOCAHP ANAR · 02-21-2004, 10:33 AM

Colt;

To disagree with one's lifestyle is one thing, but to wish them death and destruction is another. Stop the bashing!

Hate is the tool of the weak minded... it weakens your argument and discredits your belief.

To the point at hand; Bush has expressed dismay about this topic but stopped short of saying if he would do anything about it.

Stats from Rush: Ca has 36% republican registration, yet 61% passed this Marriage protection bill.

I think this could actually hurt the Dem party and cost them a few middle of the road votes.........

Lord Shrike · 02-21-2004, 02:10 PM

Hate the sin love the sinner right. I think the repubs can bludgeon the dems repeatedly with this issue. If judges continue to think that they have the right to rule us from the bench than a ammendmant is needed to stop this.

Rufus Rhastus J · 02-22-2004, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oxford
Schwarzenegger's on the right track but about 3,100 gay marriages too late.

:jaw: They're nuts in the ROK.:insane:

I guess it's okay to agree?:nod:

Oxford · 02-22-2004, 04:03 PM

No offense Rufus. Anytime you agree with me don't worry about offending me.

I can handle it. Got thick skin because at 66+ yrs old my skin is old, wrinkled and crusty. Can't be damaged much now.

Yesiree! I like it when you agree with me. Thank you for telling me.

(Barf has been removed VIA request. It was meant as strictly a friendly barf)

P.S. Regardless of the above...I'm not gonna become a politician.:jaw: :right:

Rufus Rhastus J · 02-23-2004, 09:35 AM

Guess I'm stupid, and i read the words...But, i see the

So, I have to ask, why say you like it when i agree but, display the vomit? No hard feelings, if you prefer I not comment useing your posts. Believe me, i do understand.

EOD Guy · 02-23-2004, 12:16 PM

Pure political BS. The California governor has absolutely no authority over the attorney general, who is an elected official, and he cannot "order" him to do anything.

Rave · 02-23-2004, 12:23 PM

Ox,I too see the barfing on the two buds and I am disappointed in you,I expected a bit more class,guess I will just have to lower my expectations a bit.

Oxford · 02-23-2004, 04:17 PM

Rufus and Rave...You're taking my posts too seriously. Ok...I'll remove the barf and the rest is sincere. As usual I was just trying to be a wise arse.

Regarding Swarzenegger and being too late banning the 3,100 gay marriages...that's true the way I think. Apparently, across the country, that's clearly not a one sided opinion. So be it but I'm opposed to gay marriages and you're entitled to your opinions, too.

Now that's a serious post.

Hang loose...Aloha!

Ox:nod:

NRAJOE · 02-23-2004, 04:21 PM

Homos make me sick...

Oxford · 02-23-2004, 04:25 PM

Joe...I agree with your barf. I just got repriminded for using it incorrectly.

NRAJOE · 02-23-2004, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oxford
Joe...I agree with your barf. I just got repriminded for using it incorrectly.

As long as you don't get reprimanded by who counts...it don't matter!

Rave · 02-24-2004, 08:37 AM

Ox,we be cool,and Joe's barf was good.

Oxford · 02-24-2004, 09:07 AM

That's good Rave...now to get Rufus to lower his hostility at my sick barfing. I meant no offense to either of you two.

:right:

Bottom line, though, is that I think all three of us, and a whole lot of other G&G members, are all on the same wave length regarding the point of the original post in this thread. Marriage of Homo's still make me barf.

colt45 · 02-24-2004, 09:40 AM

ox, i would have loved to come to your rescue here bud but i too have had me pee pee knocked in the dirt om this for for "bashing" witch in my opinion is a new politicly correct term for speaking your mind.
homos are a freek of nature, there are male and female for a reason, the joining of the two is natural and correct the un-natural act of homosexuality is is not only moroly wrong, phisicaly wrong and needs stoped. not encoraged or ignored and certianly not protected by the law or by the new P.C. terms like bashing.
this is my last post on this subject so you homo sympathisers can now take all the pot shots at me you would like, just remember before you do you will be hetero bashing.

Oxford · 02-24-2004, 09:46 AM

Colt 45...I laughed all the way through your thread. Good one! Especially I liked your last phrase"

..."so you homo sympathisers can now take all the pot shots at me you would like, just remember before you do you will be hetero bashing."

Yep...we have rights, too.:right:

02-20-2004, 10:49 PM	#1
Sniper[MI] Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Future 51st state, "New Hope" Posts: 3,796	Ahnold say, STOP! Schwarzenegger orders attorney general to halt gay marriages BETH FOUHY, Associated Press Writer Friday, February 20, 2004 ©2004 Associated Press URL: sfgate.com/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/02/20/state2325EST0245.DTL (02-20) 20:43 PST BURLINGAME, Calif. (AP) -- Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger ordered California's attorney general Friday to take legal action to stop San Francisco from granting marriage licenses to gay couples. In a letter to Attorney General Bill Lockyer, Schwarzenegger directed the state's top lawyer "to take immediate steps" to get a definitive court ruling declaring what the city is doing to be illegal. "Our civilized society and legal system is based upon a respect for and adherence to the rule of law. The City and County of San Francisco's unfortunate choice to disregard state law and grant marriage certificates to gay couples directly undermines this fundamental guarantee," Schwarzenegger wrote. "As Attorney General, you have the authority to take legal action to require the City and County of San Francisco to comply with the laws of the State." Schwarzenegger was scheduled to appear at the California Republican Party's convention Friday night, and his spokesman said the governor planned to touch on the recent events in San Francisco in his speech to party members. "You have, at this point, nearly two weeks of flouting of state law. The governor feels that we've come to a point where we're starting down a dangerous path and it leads to anarchy at some point," said Rob Stutzman, Schwarzenegger's communications director. "It's time for this to end." Stutzman said that Schwarzenegger's directive to the attorney general was prompted in part by a Superior Court judge's decision Friday not to impose a temporary restraining order on the city that would have halted the weeklong parade of 3,175 same-sex weddings. Lockyer, an elected Democrat who is a potential candidate in the 2006 governor's race, already has said that he plans to vigorously defend the state in the lawsuit San Francisco's city attorney brought Thursday that challenged California's marriage laws on constitutional grounds. "By virtue of the city and county of San Francisco having sued the state of California, we need to respond to that lawsuit in the next 30 days," said Nathan Barankin, a spokesman for Lockyer said Friday. "It will be squarely before the courts." San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom, who directed the county clerk to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples last week, has defended his actions by saying California's Constitution prohibits discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. The mayor's spokesman, Peter Ragone, scoffed at Schwarzenegger's directive to the attorney general, noting that two judges have already declined to grant emergency orders sought by two conservative opponents of marriage rights for gays and lesbians. "The truth is, thousands of people are involved in loving relationships and having them recognized for the first time," Ragone said. "We urge the governor to meet with some of the couples because what's happening is both lawful and loving." __________________ FNUH!

02-20-2004, 11:23 PM	#2
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,023 Blog Entries: 4	Schwarzenegger's on the right track but about 3,100 gay marriages too late. :jaw: They're nuts in the ROK.:insane: __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right". Last edited by Oxford; 02-21-2004 at 08:59 AM.

02-21-2004, 05:04 AM	#4
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,219	Steps the Terminator should be following: 1) Arrest the Mayor of SF and all his cronies involved in this travesty. 2) Anull all illegal "marriages" immediately. 3) Levy a stiff financial penalty on all guilty parties - hey, California still needs money, right? __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

02-21-2004, 06:49 AM	#5
colt45 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Occupied Territories of New York (Buffalo) Posts: 2,898	send them all from across the country to kali to get thier marige lisences then give them all a free weekend on catalina island, now we get the airforce some practice and knock the island back under the sea. this idiot mayor calls it loveing going on, i call it sick, imoral, and just plain wrong. __________________ "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity" -Sigmund Freud, General Introduction to Psychoanalysis "If guns cause crime, all of mine are defective." - Ted Nugent "Self-defense is Nature's eldest law." -John Dryden

02-21-2004, 10:33 AM	#6
SPOCAHP ANAR Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SC-upstate Posts: 4,097 Images: 3 Blog Entries: 4	Colt; To disagree with one's lifestyle is one thing, but to wish them death and destruction is another. Stop the bashing! Hate is the tool of the weak minded... it weakens your argument and discredits your belief. To the point at hand; Bush has expressed dismay about this topic but stopped short of saying if he would do anything about it. Stats from Rush: Ca has 36% republican registration, yet 61% passed this Marriage protection bill. I think this could actually hurt the Dem party and cost them a few middle of the road votes......... __________________ Spocrest Out!.......... Last edited by SPOCAHP ANAR; 02-21-2004 at 10:37 AM.

02-21-2004, 12:07 AM	#3
Despoiler Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Occupied Territory of California Posts: 2,232	Swartzenegger should have had the mayor arrested. After all he is breaking California law.

02-21-2004, 02:10 PM	#7
Lord Shrike Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: MOOOOOOOOOOO land also known as Wisconsin Posts: 1,103	Hate the sin love the sinner right. I think the repubs can bludgeon the dems repeatedly with this issue. If judges continue to think that they have the right to rule us from the bench than a ammendmant is needed to stop this. __________________ Taint nuthin a 12 gauge wont solve

02-22-2004, 04:03 PM	#9
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,023 Blog Entries: 4	No offense Rufus. Anytime you agree with me don't worry about offending me. I can handle it. Got thick skin because at 66+ yrs old my skin is old, wrinkled and crusty. Can't be damaged much now. Yesiree! I like it when you agree with me. Thank you for telling me. (Barf has been removed VIA request. It was meant as strictly a friendly barf) P.S. Regardless of the above...I'm not gonna become a politician.:jaw: :right: __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right". Last edited by Oxford; 02-23-2004 at 04:20 PM.

02-23-2004, 09:35 AM	#10
Rufus Rhastus J Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: West, Central Florida, Third World America Posts: 6,339 Images: 1	I see your post but, .......... Guess I'm stupid, and i read the words...But, i see the So, I have to ask, why say you like it when i agree but, display the vomit? No hard feelings, if you prefer I not comment useing your posts. Believe me, i do understand. __________________ "They cannot be trusted.....The Romulans (our politicos) are without honor." Worf

02-23-2004, 12:16 PM	#11
EOD Guy Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Concord, CA Posts: 34	Pure political BS. The California governor has absolutely no authority over the attorney general, who is an elected official, and he cannot "order" him to do anything.

02-23-2004, 12:23 PM	#12
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 6,877	Ox,I too see the barfing on the two buds and I am disappointed in you,I expected a bit more class,guess I will just have to lower my expectations a bit. __________________ USAF '62-'66 .

02-23-2004, 04:17 PM	#13
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,023 Blog Entries: 4	Rufus and Rave...You're taking my posts too seriously. Ok...I'll remove the barf and the rest is sincere. As usual I was just trying to be a wise arse. Regarding Swarzenegger and being too late banning the 3,100 gay marriages...that's true the way I think. Apparently, across the country, that's clearly not a one sided opinion. So be it but I'm opposed to gay marriages and you're entitled to your opinions, too. Now that's a serious post. Hang loose...Aloha! Ox:nod: __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right". Last edited by Oxford; 02-23-2004 at 04:21 PM.

02-23-2004, 04:21 PM	#14
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,052 Images: 3	Homos make me sick... __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

02-23-2004, 04:25 PM	#15
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,023 Blog Entries: 4	Joe...I agree with your barf. I just got repriminded for using it incorrectly. __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

02-24-2004, 08:37 AM	#17
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 6,877	Ox,we be cool,and Joe's barf was good. __________________ USAF '62-'66 .

02-24-2004, 09:07 AM	#18
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,023 Blog Entries: 4	That's good Rave...now to get Rufus to lower his hostility at my sick barfing. I meant no offense to either of you two. :right: Bottom line, though, is that I think all three of us, and a whole lot of other G&G members, are all on the same wave length regarding the point of the original post in this thread. Marriage of Homo's still make me barf. __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

02-24-2004, 09:40 AM	#19
colt45 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Occupied Territories of New York (Buffalo) Posts: 2,898	ox, i would have loved to come to your rescue here bud but i too have had me pee pee knocked in the dirt om this for for "bashing" witch in my opinion is a new politicly correct term for speaking your mind. homos are a freek of nature, there are male and female for a reason, the joining of the two is natural and correct the un-natural act of homosexuality is is not only moroly wrong, phisicaly wrong and needs stoped. not encoraged or ignored and certianly not protected by the law or by the new P.C. terms like bashing. this is my last post on this subject so you homo sympathisers can now take all the pot shots at me you would like, just remember before you do you will be hetero bashing. __________________ "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity" -Sigmund Freud, General Introduction to Psychoanalysis "If guns cause crime, all of mine are defective." - Ted Nugent "Self-defense is Nature's eldest law." -John Dryden

02-24-2004, 09:46 AM	#20
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,023 Blog Entries: 4	Colt 45...I laughed all the way through your thread. Good one! Especially I liked your last phrase" ..."so you homo sympathisers can now take all the pot shots at me you would like, just remember before you do you will be hetero bashing." Yep...we have rights, too.:right: __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".