[h1humma]

i was wonderin what yall had to say bout this. i was in mi local knife shop and ive become friends with tha manager and talk bout guns with him sometimes. he owns a H&K USP in .40S&W and i was tellin him bout my plans of getting a beretta 96 and he said that they r crap and if i wanted a "real gun" get a USP. o and his other sugestion for a "real gun" was a glock

his arguement: "berettas weigh 11 tons"
"cheep frame"
"under powerd"
"TOO big"



but this is what im thinking
"cheep frame"?????? his is PLASTIC
"11 tons"?? only 33.2 oz. to his 26
"under powerd" same round as his
"TOO big"beretta=8.5 USP=7.64 in

not much differnce bout 6oz. and 1 inch and he has a PLASTIC frame so that is most of the reason for the weight difference

i would like to know what yall think bout this

[BattleRifleG3]

You brought up very good points.

There are good plastic framed pistols and bad ones. Comfortwise HK is good, constructionwise I have no idea. I'd have to see the inerts.

Good polymer pistols have a metal frame inside that connects all mechanical parts. No major moving parts against polymer. My Steyr M40 is such a pistol.

I honestly can't say exactly which is better, but the factors he said matter not in my book unless the Beretta is too big to conceal and the USP is just right. If you want a substantial pistol that is compact, the Steyr M40 beats all. If you must have metal frame (though the part of the Steyr that matters IS metal) Beretta makes a more compact series called the Cougar in 45, 40, and 9mm.

[Shaun]

I have concealed a 92 FS BRG so a 96 is not a problem the guns don't jam thats the good thing about Beretta but USP's are nice guns and you can currently order LEO trade ins from CDNN for 350 to 400 and they are very nice a coworker just got one.

[Roy Collins]

Sounds like your "manager" doesn't know Squat about Beretta 96s. Like was said above, the HK are nice. But I told you before a 96 is as good as anything anyone else makes in .40.

[h1humma]

i went back and talked to him.... he said that the slide rails r steel and the trigger assembly is steel but the actual trigger is plastic other than that the gun is ploymer

[oneastrix]

They are both excellent guns. I am more familiar with Beretta however.

[PghDrake]

I'm so new to this I probably don't even have a right to respond to something like this question - but My only experience with a Baretta was with a 9000S .40 and it was horrible.

You can see My comments on it in this thread if you'd like to have a look.

-Drake

[MikeC]

I wish I had not sold my USP in .40 It was a very nice gun. The only "child" that I am upset I got rid of.

and didn't like it..too whippy for me..topheavy..but I like shooting Berettas :target:

[azguy]

I carry a Beretta 96D as a duty weapon I am forced to carry. It is terrible. The trigger is too heavey. The gun is too heavy. The fraim is too weak at points and are notorious in developing fractures. All of the firearms instructors I know from my agency who have gone to the firearms instructor course do not like it at all. Anyone who can chooses to cary the H&K USP. I do not know anything at all about Berettas other pistols but the 96D is not a weapon I would recomend.

[hollowpointt]

I have both the USP 9 and 40, and a friend has the 96. The HK has been flawless and the Beretta has been ok. He has FTE once in awhile.