Privet Security company in Iraq???

Doglips · 04-02-2004, 06:48 AM

The 4 civilians that were killed that worked for the privet security company..what was the name of the company???

The reson I ask is I got offered a job with a company called CSA guading the milatary baeses in Kuaite.....offered $12 per hour and time and 1/4 for ot...so I blew them off......kinda wounder if it was their people.

MAX7.62 · 04-02-2004, 08:44 AM

The guys were from Blackwater Lodge, sad to say one was a buddy.

Sniper[MI] · 04-02-2004, 08:48 AM

I think my life is worth a wee bit more than 12 dollars an hour....I'd tell em to stuff Kuwait..

Shaun · 04-02-2004, 10:08 AM

Private company in a war zone othat calls for at the least $35 a minute unless I got to carry and shoot anyone who even looked like they posed a threat

Rufus Rhastus J · 04-02-2004, 11:26 AM

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Originally posted by MAX7.62
The guys were from Blackwater Lodge, sad to say one was a buddy.

I saw the news (fox) while visiting my brother's home the other day. I can't tell you how angry this makes me. But, our gov. just does'nt seem to get it. Those people hate us! Those security guys were helping to bring food to those starving savages! Talk about biteing the hand that feeds you! I think America needs to make an example of that city. Just nuke it to the ground, everyone and everything totally destroyed. Maybe then, those vile animals will learn to leave the big guys alone! Of course, I know we won't do such a thing but, it's about time we did. Maybe if we got down on thier level, they will see the error of thier ways. Of course, the correct thing to do is to get our troops out of harm's way and let Mother Nature deal with those sad excuses for humans.

We don't belong there!

Dennis · 04-02-2004, 11:47 AM

there are some good companys to work for over here and some bad ones
MPRI seems to be the best one
triple canopy and haliburton, ITT systems are good Black water seem to be an extension of the
special operators community.
since they opened the war up to everybody that wants to go, there are a few fly by nighters.
If ya go make sure you have cash for airfare home stashed. there have been a coupla high and dry incedences that I have heard of.
I would suggest makeing shure ya get connected up with an out fit that is established and up and operating rather than any of the new teams going in now.
that situation is going to be sorting itself out over the next year or two.
and don't sign for more than a six month contract and dont sign an exclusionary clause. They will take you even if you dont.
Try and leave all your options open, well as many as possible.

The 12 dollar an hour gig sounds like a student deal.
They will go and recruite young people that dont know any better
Have fun and be careful.

Doglips · 04-02-2004, 12:59 PM

Here is the link...one of the guys at work found it...so applied about 6 months ago...got this offer...make 60,000.....wow not bad...but then notiecd that was if you worked 18 hours a day..7 days a week...and some other creative math.....yep $12 to go to a war zone...sounds like such a "deal"

I dont know how I was able to refuse

http://www.csakuwait.com/

Rufus Rhastus J · 04-02-2004, 01:30 PM

Slave labor! You need to have normal hours to work. I know that for a fact. It never gets easier and without rest, you are just asking for something very bad to happen.

Big Dog · 04-02-2004, 06:18 PM

Dang, my programming job in sunny Florida works out to about $12 an hour, and I'm not being shot at. Sounds like a bum deal.
Lousy hours, bad food, hot as Hades, Tangos under every rock . . . not conducive to job security.

MAX7.62 · 04-02-2004, 09:39 PM

Trust me, Blackwater pays considerably more than 12 bucks an hour. On average the guys were making more for 60 day tours than most people do for a year.

tommy · 04-03-2004, 02:45 AM

they got peoepl trying to get welder's to go over there . they been askin alot of people i know. i think the pay was 20.00 an hour plus bonus's i guess the bonus is you make it back alive. that is time and 1/2 for over time. plus 45 dollars a day cash for per diem. (food and watt nots). not too bad if i wasn't hurt i would go. das some good money

an a welder/ fitter like i used too be would work atleast 15 too 18 hours a day on them jobs. man got me druuling over here .

Dennis · 04-03-2004, 03:45 AM

Off time? what would you do with your off time? where would you go?
how would you get there?
see thats part of the job there isnt much off time because there isnt anything to Do with off time, so why have any?
they are working 6 days a week
if you can handle the hours and the labor GO DO IT
I would be there right now if I was not in such bad physical shape.
Go and bring back some of that 87 Billion we are spending over there.

OB3 · 04-04-2004, 05:18 AM

I'm sorry to hear about your friend. I worked at Baghdad International Airport for the last year, and just came back from there three weeks ago. Most of the casualties in Iraq came through our airport, and we treated them with as much respect as we could, and sent them on thier way home as fast as possible. Whenever possible, every U.S. casualty was loaded on the plane in a transfer case, with a flag over it, and a short prayer was given after loading.

I would have been happy to get 12.00 an hour. As a specialist (E4), I only took home around 33,000 for my 11 months in Baghdad. I worked 13-14 hour days for two months, in 120 degree heat before my first day off, and even after that I worked 6 days a week. I''m not complaining though, there are plenty of soldiers in Iraq who had it worse that I did.

As far as off time, I slept through most of it. After personal hygiene and chow, I only had an hour or two a day. Our post had a small library, a gym and rec tent with movies playstations. Several soldiers in my unit had thier own playstions, and we had access to a px much of the time we were there. I ordered a lot of stuff from Amazon while I was there, and most of the time they got it to me in less than two weeks.

04-02-2004, 06:48 AM	#1
Doglips Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cocoa Florida Posts: 9,088	Privet Security company in Iraq??? The 4 civilians that were killed that worked for the privet security company..what was the name of the company??? The reson I ask is I got offered a job with a company called CSA guading the milatary baeses in Kuaite.....offered $12 per hour and time and 1/4 for ot...so I blew them off......kinda wounder if it was their people.

04-02-2004, 08:44 AM	#2
MAX7.62 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Classified Posts: 934	The guys were from Blackwater Lodge, sad to say one was a buddy. __________________ The Second Amendment, it ain't about DUCK HUNTING! I feel more like I do now that I did when I first got here!

04-02-2004, 08:48 AM	#3
Sniper[MI] Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Future 51st state, "New Hope" Posts: 3,796	!!! 12 bucks??? I think my life is worth a wee bit more than 12 dollars an hour....I'd tell em to stuff Kuwait.. __________________ FNUH!

04-02-2004, 10:08 AM	#4
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,599 Images: 1	Private company in a war zone othat calls for at the least $35 a minute unless I got to carry and shoot anyone who even looked like they posed a threat __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

04-02-2004, 11:47 AM	#6
Dennis Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,878	there are some good companys to work for over here and some bad ones MPRI seems to be the best one triple canopy and haliburton, ITT systems are good Black water seem to be an extension of the special operators community. since they opened the war up to everybody that wants to go, there are a few fly by nighters. If ya go make sure you have cash for airfare home stashed. there have been a coupla high and dry incedences that I have heard of. I would suggest makeing shure ya get connected up with an out fit that is established and up and operating rather than any of the new teams going in now. that situation is going to be sorting itself out over the next year or two. and don't sign for more than a six month contract and dont sign an exclusionary clause. They will take you even if you dont. Try and leave all your options open, well as many as possible. The 12 dollar an hour gig sounds like a student deal. They will go and recruite young people that dont know any better Have fun and be careful. __________________ Submitted with respect to all

04-02-2004, 12:59 PM	#7
Doglips Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cocoa Florida Posts: 9,088	Here is the link...one of the guys at work found it...so applied about 6 months ago...got this offer...make 60,000.....wow not bad...but then notiecd that was if you worked 18 hours a day..7 days a week...and some other creative math.....yep $12 to go to a war zone...sounds like such a "deal" I dont know how I was able to refuse http://www.csakuwait.com/

04-02-2004, 01:30 PM	#8
Rufus Rhastus J Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: West, Central Florida, Third World America Posts: 6,339 Images: 1	Slave labor here or there is still.... Slave labor! You need to have normal hours to work. I know that for a fact. It never gets easier and without rest, you are just asking for something very bad to happen. __________________ "They cannot be trusted.....The Romulans (our politicos) are without honor." Worf

04-02-2004, 06:18 PM	#9
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,361	Dang, my programming job in sunny Florida works out to about $12 an hour, and I'm not being shot at. Sounds like a bum deal. Lousy hours, bad food, hot as Hades, Tangos under every rock . . . not conducive to job security. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

04-02-2004, 09:39 PM	#10
MAX7.62 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Classified Posts: 934	Trust me, Blackwater pays considerably more than 12 bucks an hour. On average the guys were making more for 60 day tours than most people do for a year. __________________ The Second Amendment, it ain't about DUCK HUNTING! I feel more like I do now that I did when I first got here!

04-03-2004, 02:45 AM	#11
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 4,103 Images: 6	they got peoepl trying to get welder's to go over there . they been askin alot of people i know. i think the pay was 20.00 an hour plus bonus's i guess the bonus is you make it back alive. that is time and 1/2 for over time. plus 45 dollars a day cash for per diem. (food and watt nots). not too bad if i wasn't hurt i would go. das some good money an a welder/ fitter like i used too be would work atleast 15 too 18 hours a day on them jobs. man got me druuling over here .

04-03-2004, 03:45 AM	#12
Dennis Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,878	Off time? what would you do with your off time? where would you go? how would you get there? see thats part of the job there isnt much off time because there isnt anything to Do with off time, so why have any? they are working 6 days a week if you can handle the hours and the labor GO DO IT I would be there right now if I was not in such bad physical shape. Go and bring back some of that 87 Billion we are spending over there. __________________ Submitted with respect to all

04-04-2004, 05:18 AM	#13
OB3 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Near Olympia, WA Posts: 11	I'm sorry to hear about your friend. I worked at Baghdad International Airport for the last year, and just came back from there three weeks ago. Most of the casualties in Iraq came through our airport, and we treated them with as much respect as we could, and sent them on thier way home as fast as possible. Whenever possible, every U.S. casualty was loaded on the plane in a transfer case, with a flag over it, and a short prayer was given after loading. I would have been happy to get 12.00 an hour. As a specialist (E4), I only took home around 33,000 for my 11 months in Baghdad. I worked 13-14 hour days for two months, in 120 degree heat before my first day off, and even after that I worked 6 days a week. I''m not complaining though, there are plenty of soldiers in Iraq who had it worse that I did. As far as off time, I slept through most of it. After personal hygiene and chow, I only had an hour or two a day. Our post had a small library, a gym and rec tent with movies playstations. Several soldiers in my unit had thier own playstions, and we had access to a px much of the time we were there. I ordered a lot of stuff from Amazon while I was there, and most of the time they got it to me in less than two weeks.