Listen to this sh...uh, cr...uh, BS!

[Sniper[MI]]

This friends is how rationally the anti gunners think...this would be good for the humor forum if it wasn't so frightening!

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http://www.opinioneditorials.com/fre..._20040413.html

April 13, 2004


Banning Guns Equals Saving Lives
Lauren Flynn

Two months ago this week a senseless tragedy hit the streets of Detroit. Matthew Bowens and Jennifer Fettig, two Detroit police officers, were gunned down and killed during a routine traffic stop.

Amendment II of the Constitution states a well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. There is a clear public support for enacting stronger gun control legislation to reduce the chance of accidental or deliberate gun violence. Six in ten Americans say there should be stricter gun control laws. Large majorities support mandatory trigger locks, safety courses, backround checks at gun shows and banning assault weapons. Just a third of Americans want to ban handguns entirely because people are less sure about whether these measures would actually curb violent crime.

The current gun policy is wrong for America because so many innocent lives are taken by guns. A backround check for people applying for a carrying a concealed weapon permit (CCW) does not show their mental history or crimes they were acquited of. It is not only criminals who kill. Only thirty percent of murders are commited by robbers and rapists. Handguns annually murder at least fifteen thousand Americans and accidently kill another one hundred thousand. Citizens use the excuse that they need guns to protect themselves from robbers. They should know that 90% of robberies are commited when the person is not at home. There is an estimated one hundred thousand handguns stolen annually from law abiding citizens.

These alarming statistics show how much danger our children are in from guns. Everyday, fourteen American children aged nineteen years and under are killed in gun accidents, suicides, and homicides. Many more are wounded. An estimated 1.2 million elementary aged, latchkey children have access to guns in their homes. Guns are the leading method (60%)used by teenagers to commit suicide. Everyday, sixty-five American men, women and children are killed with handguns. According to the Michigan Department of Public Health, the majority of victims of fatal firearm accidents in Michigan are children and adolescents.

What should be done to protect innocent victims from violent gun crimes? The government has many options to reduce the death rate by firearms.

One option for our administration is to only allow military and police officers to carry and own firearms. Major efforts should be put forth to collect and destroy firearms owned by Americans. The gun industry has been profiting for to long at the expense of people's lives. I understand that the gun manufacturing business has provided employment for many people in this country. To prevent an even greater unemployment rate, the people whose jobs were to make guns can now combine efforts to collect those guns and save lives. It will take many years to complete the job of confiscating firearms so umemployment would not be an issue in banning firearms. We as Americans need to look into our hearts and take control of the problem that is taking lives of our children, friends and family. We all need to come together and vote out the legislators who support the use of guns. Our government should be filled with people who would rather protect our lives than increase their bank account.

A less dramatic approach to eliminating all hand guns would be to limit how many guns individuals can own so they can't illegally distribute them. A more thorough back up check should also be done. Mental history should be looked at to decrease the risk of violent outbreaks and mass killing sprees. I think the process of getting a gun permit should be long and complicated so maybe people would not want to go through the hassle.

A third approach wold be to just eliminate handguns. A person would have to pass the required backround and mental check, have taken a gun safety course, have a hunting license and be able to prove they are using the rifle for hunting purposes only. This would be effective to reduce who is able to recieve a gun permit and rifles are far less easy to conceal.

I believe my policy proposal is better than the current policy because in a society full of hate, eliminating guns would be eliminating one more trigger for evil in the world.

[Despoiler]

Bunch of crap!

[Big Dog]

This Dimbulb should spend a year in the East End of London - no guns equals a safe environment! Right . . .
People like this this are living in a fantasy world in their minds.

[PAPA G]

may be there should be a clear and logical thinking test before getting your internet particapation license

[Rufus Rhastus J]

That women is not like us, the little people. She is a member, I'll bet, of the group we often refer to as the elite! She dos not have to roam the filthy streets of the city at night! And if she did, she would be safe inside a blast proof limo speeding along not required to obey the laws. So, since she will not have to live like us, it's oh so easy to make the rules for us....after all, the rules are for us...not the elite.

[dave375hh]

He cooked the books on his numbers also. !00,000 is bull. Last year I heard about was 23,000, which includes all types like self defence, police shooting bad guys and suicide. There are 25,000+ gun laws in the US. So we have 2,000 more individual laws than we had shootings. I guess their laws arn't working. In fact there hasen't been a recorded case of a gun law that ever stopped or prevented a crime EVER! not once!

Dave375

[Rave]

S.O.S.!:assult:

[Bookman]

Handguns accidently kill 100.000 Americans a year???!!! Pure garbage. CARS don't kill 100,000 American a year.

"Children" aged 19 and under? No one, NO ONE, aged 19 or 18 is a "child" in any state.

"A society full of hate"??? Not where I live. Most folks up here go out of their way to be friendly.

I agree with BigDog. A field trip to the real world could do this writer a whole lot of good.

[Dennis]

It is blatantly obvious that ms Flynn is new to this argument and has not "argued" her points with anyone.
she has just thought it up and not discussed it with anyone who has a different opinion than hers.
The nievete of her point of view and the skewed numbers she is useing to propup her conclusions indicates her lack of experience.
I doubt she could understand the inherent arrogance it is to believe that the government, the society we live in could change ourselves in such a radical fashion.
We Americans Have Guns, in our homes under our pillows in our kitchen drawers, and bed room closets.
hundreds of millions of guns.
they are like silverware just about everyone has or their parents have one.
to try and remove such a common item
would be like going to the beach and telling the waves to stop breaking on the shore.
other cultures are different, some countrys have MORE guns in civilian hands per capita than we do!
and they have LESS crime.
so Her complaints may not be caused by firearm ownership at all.

We all agree that murders and shootings are bad,
to cop out and claim that the presence of firearms are the cause is convient, wrong,
and lazy.

but it sounds like she "Really cares" and that is the real point she is trying to make.

[Despoiler]

Dennis,
This is not a challenge, just a question. I have always heard that we are the most heavily armed nation on the planet, is this not true? What nation(s) has more guns?

[Dennis]

Switzerland.
Every able bodied citizen of switzerland is Required to spent 2 years in military service when they are 18, they are issued a sig assault rifle and they get to keep it when they are done.
Every one in switzerland has a machine gun.................
this is besides all the target rifles pistols and hunting firearms.
Per capita Switzerland has way more guns than we do.
the government encourages shooting sports

[Dennis]

also I understand that Israel has a big civilian market in firearms

[Despoiler]

So you are talking about the number of guns in relation to the population, not the total number of guns in the country, I understand.

[Dennis]

Well yea I guess so.
If you go on the total number of guns in the country we have every one beat hands down. We are such a large country with so many "happy people"
if every one was required to have a firearm and say 50 rounds of the appropriate ammunition...............
kept in the home..........
it would be easy to do.
not to expensive, a "government" rifle in an easy to shoot caliber, when ya turn 18 ya have to qualify with it to continue get your drivers licence.
something like that.............
Mmmmmmm
it would be hard to implement, but worth it....................

[Rave]

Yup,it works in Swizerland,butnot likely in this country with the present anti-gun atmosphere,too bad.