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Old 06-04-2004, 09:16 PM   #21
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Well, aren't they so cute? We should put a bow on them. Scumbags.....! Go catch a real criminal! Oh, yeah, real bad guys fight back! GGGGGgggggrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!


You will think that way until someone is speeding and puts you in a wheelchair, or maybe kills your family or a friend. Then you will be screaming because the Cops arn't chasing people who are driving like idiots.
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Old 06-04-2004, 09:32 PM   #22
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TScottW99...your point is well taken. In my post it was not meant as a complaint. Yes, I appreciate that those troopers are trying to make the roads safer for us. Might add...I never received a ticket that I didn't deserve. :right:
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Old 06-05-2004, 02:43 AM   #23
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There is a difference from people of people driving like idiots and speeding. I confess I have a lead foot, and when I get caught, I pay the fine, but that does not slow me down. I guess I learned my driving habit from my father, a retired CHP officer, I have never known an off duty officer whom obeyed the speed limit.
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Old 06-05-2004, 03:44 AM   #24
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Welp...you've met one now. I'd rather do 70 and get there safely with my wife and kids in the car, rather than do 80 and blow a tire. I drive the same alone in the car as well. Cleaned up too many bodies. One of them was a personal friend. Gave the notice to her parents. Never again. Speed if you want to. One way or another you'll lose.
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Old 06-05-2004, 09:29 AM   #25
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Ruf just remember that several of us here on the board either have been cops or are currently cops and we all protect one another.

We all have heard about the "brotherhood" and are well versed in thier actions both legal and otherwise.
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Old 06-05-2004, 09:34 AM   #26
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You will think that way until someone is speeding and puts you in a wheelchair, or maybe kills your family or a friend. Then you will be screaming because the Cops arn't chasing people who are driving like idiots.
I mentioned speeders, not those who are driveing in a manner which endangers anyone. Speeding is not, in itself, dangerous...provided one is not exceeding the speed of others by a great amount. :ballons:
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Old 06-05-2004, 12:05 PM   #27
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I drive Interstate 80 to get back and forth from school. There are pplenty of places to park cars on the side of the road and monitor speed. This hiding in the woods thing is really dumb. If someone sees a "gun" pointing at them, what do you think they're going to do? Call the police.
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Old 06-05-2004, 02:01 PM   #28
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MIxed feelings on this. To say that speeding enforcement is not about revenue is not really true. We all know a big ole slice of every ticket you guys write go to your own departments. Now obviously we need some kind of regulation on the highways or it would be a blood bath. Most of the limits are a little low. As long as officers are handing out tickets to people who are going 15 to 20 miles over the limit in a area with reasonable speed limits I don't have a problem. However when you have interstates with multiple speed limits on the low end and officers are strategically placed to catch you before you slow down its definately about revenue. Don't tell it doesn't go on because I have seen it plenty of times with my own eyes. The Milwaukee Sherrifs department used to love sitting in the wooded medain right before Racine county ended and Milwaukee started on I94. Why? Because the speed limit used to go from 65 to 55 for no apparent reason. Fortunately Milwaukee got a new sheriff one that the police union despised. (which is all the reason i needed to vote for him) He had the limits upped until you actually start to reach the city and put a end to the excessive predatory speed enforcement practices of his department. You wanna know what the main complaint he got from board members was about that? The loss of revenue to the department. Now there still out there from time to time in the accdient prone areas of the freeway but for the most part there back on the streets and in the community where they belong. Speeding is something that has to be enforced but it is certainly not the worst of our social problems that the police could and should be dealin with. As for these guys with cammo I don't really see how its any differnet than hidding under a overpass or behind a bridge.
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Old 06-05-2004, 02:11 PM   #29
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See you are also familar with the split in the highway there Lord. Smile. Milwaukee county is just awful the way patrol I94. Spend more time watching out for them, espcially with such bad road design for traffic around the airport there.
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As a fellow Law Enforcement Officer (grammer, spelling, PC), I know what it feels like to not be liked for doing your job. Still, making the information superhighway safe and legible for all travellers is what I do. I do-do it well.

Speeding is a public safety issue. Also, you burn more gas the faster you go.

The Mass turnpike is bumper to bumper at 75 mph.
Boston drivers are insane. I've learned to just go with it.

Also, don't try to fight a speeding ticket in Rhode Island. The state troopers will show up to defend it, even on appeal. You will lose everytime. Trust me.
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Yah I believe you will lose everytime because the judge will allways believe a police officer over a civilan. Yah I know you poor sob's from Illniose really get it from our cops. I am sure you are aware of the current scandal involving the Racine county sherrif department.
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Old 06-05-2004, 06:39 PM   #32
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Not a revenue maker.....

Nothing says we can't hide......if you're breaking the law you are breaking the law. I'll get ya on radar in plain view just as easy as hidden. Radar detectors, while only about half effective are designed to get a person around the law.....they rarely work.

Welcome to the boards....from TX.
Don't use the blasted things...don't speed. :-)
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Old 06-05-2004, 06:50 PM   #33
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Ruf just remember that several of us here on the board either have been cops or are currently cops and we all protect one another.
I agree Shaun, but many people do have a problem with too much political intrusion, much of it obtained by deceitful or unconstitutional means.
I also agree that one of these guys may become a "targer" I know in this state that it could be a possibility. (Oh look a "terrorist" with a gun LOL
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Old 06-05-2004, 08:06 PM   #34
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current scandal involving the Racine county sherrif department.
LS I haven't heard. It would be nice to hear what those crooks have gotten themselves into up there.
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Old 06-06-2004, 01:15 AM   #35
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Welp...you've met one now. I'd rather do 70 and get there safely with my wife and kids in the car, rather than do 80 and blow a tire. I drive the same alone in the car as well. Cleaned up too many bodies. One of them was a personal friend. Gave the notice to her parents. Never again. Speed if you want to. One way or another you'll lose.
1*, good for you, I have always wondered how an officer can enforce the law when they do not follow the law themselves. BTW, I have no idea of the speed limit in Texas, but for the most part here in Ca the speed limits on the major highways are 55 to 65, and traffic travels around 75.
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Suprised you haven't heard about ScottD. Well I am sure you are familar with the Racine County Sherrifs Departments patrolling of I94. Its really even more pecular than the Milwaukee County Sheriffs Dept. In Milwaukee the Sheriffs are the actual legal entity in charge of patroling the freeway. Everywhere else its a job left to the State Troopers. Well that doens't stop the RSD. Anyways a columnist for the Chicago Sun Times was on her way to a bridal shower in Wisconsin. As she was driving through Racine County she is stopped. Now she does not dispute the fact that she was speeding what happens next though is really fishy. As many of you I am sure know if you are a member of AAA you get a AAA bond card good for any traffic violation short of DD. Well this woman was a AAA member. When the officer infromed her she would have to post bond or go to jail she gave him the bond card. He says this is no good and only cash will do. This is particulary troublesome since state law in Wisconsin and I belive most other states dictates that a officer must accept the bond card in leu of fine payment. This guy refuses. Well she doesn't have the money so off to jail she goes. She has to call her son who than has to get the cash and bail his mom out of jail for speeding. Needless to say upon her return she has written up a column on the incident and is also insunuating that she was only pulled over because she was from Illnoise. (you know how we love all you FIB's) Now the entire department is under investigation by the state since this screams extortion. She also is debateing a law suit.
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Walworth County also patrols I94.
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AllenT....the speed limits in TX are between 55mph and 75 on interstates......

Also, kinda along with what with Shrikes posts, we don't have bond cards per se in TX, but signing the citation issued by the officer is considered the bond. I have had people refuse to sign the citation, and the law allows us to instanter them (which isn't putting them in jail BTW), but I usually just write "refusal to sign" on it and send them on their way.

The Supreme Court (within the last couple of years) upheld than an officer can jail someone over a traffic infraction. I don't remember the name of the case, but it stemmed from a woman here in TX being jailed over a traffic infraction. I believe it was Mansfield, TX. It's been during the last six years if I believe. But IMHO it's too dang much trouble to do so. I don't see many reasons where I would make a custodial arrest over a traffic infraction.
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GGGGGGGGggggggrrrrrrrr!!!!!! But, some folks are just special.
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I don't follow ya Ruf?????
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