Paul Johnson executed

[Doglips]

Sexy red his adult son lives about 10 miles from me...lots of viguals here as well....off course I work with Lockheed Martin so they are doign the vigual thing as well.

[Dennis]

Ya know
all of you people that carry on so about how you want to get pay back,
You can.

You can do the same thing they are doing

Go find some muslim person, capture him
get out the video camera and begin.

so

ya got the courage to do that? YOU, Your self, NOW!

They Do.

[Oxford]

I believe that's over the line to promote on G&G. Even though I'm upset because of this last victim, I'd settle for an arm, or a leg, or a hand, or an eye, or all of the above to be removed from anyone who commited such acts of terror before doing some real damage to him. :uzi:

[BattleRifleG3]

Atrocities need to be met with justice, not more atrocities. Our nations full technological resources should be deployed in seeking out these people and bringing to justice those who aided them. Nations of the middle east need to be told to let us do our work or there'll be trouble.

So they don't want the US landing troops in their borders and conducting ourt police actions in our ways? Fine. Where's the UN? Yeah, that's what I thought. The accomodators of tyrants and murderers for decades. Screw them, and either take care of the problem ourselves, or get all our guys out and give Israel the go-ahead to nuke them.

[whirlwind]

al jazeera wont condemn this act! heck, they are the ones that probably filmed it! if any one place needs carpet bombed its al jazeera's headquarters!

[whirlwind]

yes dennis, i do have the courage to do it...but i also have the decensy to not give into the dark side of myself. i guess thats what makes us differant than them,we as a people are inheirantly decent,where they are inheirantly indecent

[Shaun]

Same with me whirlwind I could easily do it but I believe in the legal means -- I would only do it in the case that they stepped foot in the USA and were a direct threat to ones safety == of course if I was over there I wouldn;t feel a thing

[Dennis]

Well Ok
it is our deciency and our civililzed culture that keeps the American Muslims safe
its the same thing over there.
Our cultural "calmness" and The vapid blameing press keep our
leaders from persuing the war in a efficient manner
this factor may cause us to fail in Iraq
or at least not keep the country together
we must cast off the civilized conduct and mercilessly persue our enemys
I dont condone doing anything illegal in side the United States
I hope I got you guys think about how they much they are motivated

Is doesnt make any sense for them to hate us so much
But they do

And nothing is going to change that
You cant win hearts and minds You have to eliminate enough of the enemy that the remaining survivors change their minds
We will have to kill Millions of them before we even begin to make any progress.

This has been the truth of winning a victory in war since the beginning of time.
We keep saying we are not conquerers
Well, whats wrong with Conquering Iraq ?
Why Cant we subjucate those people for a coupola years
I dont see any thing wrong with it
We are gonna have to do it any whay

If the press from around the world wasn't bearing witness to what is happening over there, we wouldn't know about it.

A lot of good is being done over there every day. Power is coming back on, schools are being built and, people are getting some kind of freedom after 30 plus years of dictatorship.

Most of the people doing this sort of stuff (Al Queda, Sadr, Hezzbollah) practice a form of Islam not unlike the conservative fundimental Chrisitanity practiced in the US. I don't mean meat and potatoes Baptist but Branch Davidians.
Their basic premise is "The world is coming to an end very soon, so get ready to do battle." In times of cultural stress, this form of religous practice pops up frequently. Also, cults of personality where almost divine power is given to an individual are not uncommon. Osama Bin Laden would be an excellent example.

In their view, we are everything that is wrong with their world. We are a cancer in their land. They have the same sense of being violated as we would if the Chinese invaded our country. What fuels them is a firm belief their whole world is under seige. It's good against evil in their eyes.
We'll never win against them, but we will make than stand out more and more as we improve the conditions for everyone. Iraq has been secular for a long time. Prior to Saddam, they were very western.

I'm sure our tax dollars are being used to find these criminals. Revenge should not be our movtive. That would take the fight to their level and whoever sets the terms for battle has a distinct advantage.

[Rufus Rhastus J]

I guess that's why we keep getting our guys/girls killed. I still say we should have never gone over there. Saddam was not a problem to us nor was there any other reason to be there. But, Bush just has to be the dragon slayer, too bad our troops pay the price. Later, i'm sure, we all will. Since we refuse to deal with the problem, seeking only to circumvent the constitution by hasselling everyone except the right folks, we can expect it to be on our front door. Thankfully, i expect it will be somewhere other than the third world area I reside in. I guess i should count my blessings.

[whirlwind]

dont get me wrong guys, im all for drastic measures to still the waters over there! but beheading is just over the top. like in ww2 i think we should line up every swingin' richard that is suspected of ANY terror activities or any activities against our troops or any of our friends troops and stick a cigarette in there mouths and pull some triggers! but the first step to calming iraq down will be to ship the frickin press out! starting with al jazeera!

[Rufus Rhastus J]

Sounds good! At least we would be doing something! Even if it's wrong.

[savparts]

I still like my PIG idea, streach them out, slice their belly open, let the PIGS eat the guts as the guy watchs with the rest of the Muslim world

[Mandy]

:assult: :assult: :assult: :assult: :assult:

Do someone remeber the movie Swordfish?

Such an agency would be great !!

If it exists, lets put it to work overtime and unlimited resources for them.

If it doesn't exists, the dang politicos can create it and stop buggering around!!!

:uzi: :uzi: :uzi: :uzi:

[SexyRedXterra]

Originally Posted by Mr. Kaneko

If the press from around the world wasn't bearing witness to what is happening over there, we wouldn't know about it.

A lot of good is being done over there every day. Power is coming back on, schools are being built and, people are getting some kind of freedom after 30 plus years of dictatorship.

Most of the people doing this sort of stuff (Al Queda, Sadr, Hezzbollah) practice a form of Islam not unlike the conservative fundimental Chrisitanity practiced in the US. I don't mean meat and potatoes Baptist but Branch Davidians.
Their basic premise is "The world is coming to an end very soon, so get ready to do battle." In times of cultural stress, this form of religous practice pops up frequently. Also, cults of personality where almost divine power is given to an individual are not uncommon. Osama Bin Laden would be an excellent example.

In their view, we are everything that is wrong with their world. We are a cancer in their land. They have the same sense of being violated as we would if the Chinese invaded our country. What fuels them is a firm belief their whole world is under seige. It's good against evil in their eyes.
We'll never win against them, but we will make than stand out more and more as we improve the conditions for everyone. Iraq has been secular for a long time. Prior to Saddam, they were very western.

I'm sure our tax dollars are being used to find these criminals. Revenge should not be our movtive. That would take the fight to their level and whoever sets the terms for battle has a distinct advantage.

This wasn't in Iraq though; this was in Suadi Arabia with Al Queada.

It wasn't in Iraq? Oh, well, nevermind.

[Snakebite]

We have all seen the footage of Iraq and Saudi Arabia. There isnt much there except sand and oil. That means most of the food and raw materials are imported from other countries.
Place an embargo on everything just like we did with Cuba except for one huge difference. There would be NO refugees seeking a better life in another country...especially the US.
Let them figure it out and get a decent government. Other countries cant or shouldnt support them. When their people start dying, it might open their eyes.
When the innocent start to die, action will be taken. No more hand outs from other countries.

[SexyRedXterra]

I really think this is going to blow up into a lot of war. I just hope that we can remain above their level of thinking and not degrade ourselves to the enemy's level.

The dispairity between rich in poor in Saudi Arabia is already terrible. Also, starving the poor will only make more terrorists. In the words of the great warrior Bob Marley "A hungry man is an angry man."

[Lord Shrike]

Thank you Sexy Red for pointing out the painfully obvious. Mr. K the problem with your Radical Muslim to Radical Christian comparrison is that here the radical christian is in the extreme minority. In the many places in the middle east he is the majority. The house of Saud has a serious problem and because they sit on !!!! near half the worlds supply of crude we all have a serious problem. They were the ultimate two faced nation in the middle east. Playing both sides of the culture war to maintian there grip on the thrown until 9/11. Now that they have been forced to lean on the Wahabi's and AlQauda they are going to face more and more attacks in there country and against there leadership. If the house of Saud falls.....well if you think Iraq is bad you ain't seen sunni. All the more reason to stablize nations like Iraq as soon as possible. This going to be a long hall war weather we like it or not. It has been wageing for decades weather we wanted it to or not. Bush has simply been wise enough to realize this after the 9/11 attacks and has had the courage to fight back. We didn't start this but we had better finish it or it will end the fall of western civilization.