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Old 06-18-2004, 03:38 PM   #1
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Thumbs down SKS powerful assault rifle!!!!

Shamelessly stolen from another board.

It's bad enough that the media can twist the facts to their liking, but to have FFL holder do it, it is shameful.

SKS powerful assault rifle!!!!

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THE WEAPON
Military-style assault rifle used to mow down officers


The weapon used to kill three Birmingham police officers Thursday in Ensley was a powerful assault rifle originally used for military purposes.

Police say the officers were shot with an SKS assault rifle, similar to an AK-47. The specific model was not available late Thursday. Police found the weapon in some bushes outside the house at 1619 18th St., where the shooting occurred.

The SKS is a gas-powered, semi-automatic rifle that usually holds 10 rounds and was first used by the Soviet Union in the mid1940s, according to www.hk94.com, an online resource for information about firearms. Semi-automatic means the weapon fires once with each pull of the trigger.


Anyone could purchase it easily at many gun shops, according to Cecil Lee, manager of Aero Marine Outfitters in Trussville.

Lee said that although a hunter might purchase the 9-pound gun for hunting, it's not the weapon of choice. "It's not normally a super-accurate gun," he said. "It would fall vaguely under the category of assault rifle."

Lee's shop doesn't carry it because he doesn't consider it a sporting gun.

At least two of the officers killed Thursday were wearing standard protective armor that would be unable to stop bullets from the SKS, but Lee said there are vests designed to stop such powerful blasts.

"It would probably shoot through two phone books," Lee said. "It's a rifle I would hope I wouldn't have to face."

Phillip George, a K-9 patrolman with the Tarrant Police Department, said the vests most police officers wear wouldn't be able to fend off bullets powered by a rifle like the SKS. Tarrant police use Army-donated vests that hold two ceramic plates, but George said even those vests might not withstand a blast from an SKS.

Reinforced vests are more effective against such rifles, but are much too heavy to wear for extended periods, George said. He added that they also wouldn't be useful in a tactical situation because they restrict movement.

"The whole vest itself is probably close to 40 pounds," he said about reinforced vests, adding that even standard vests are bulky at times.

Aero Marine LLC
4400 Valley Rd, TRUSSVILLE, AL 35173
Phone: (205) 661-1212

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Old 06-18-2004, 03:51 PM   #2
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What is interesting is that they said the rounds from an SKS would penetrate not openly saying that ANY hp rifle round WILL penetrate a vest


The staff writer is just as responsible I just drafted an email to the paper.
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Old 06-18-2004, 03:57 PM   #3
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Sounds like someone using a tragic event to get their 15 mins. of fame and playing right into the hands of the antis and the gun-hating media. Maybe he should have his store boycotted!
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Old 06-18-2004, 04:25 PM   #4
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"The SKS is a gas-powered, semi-automatic rifle that usually holds 10 rounds and was first......"

I can just picture some Brady Bunch follower thinking this thing has a Briggs & Stratton engine powering it around.
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Old 06-18-2004, 04:31 PM   #5
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To that store and paper I say...

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Old 06-18-2004, 04:35 PM   #6
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My SKS is alright - but it ain't near the demon they make it out to be. Mine hasn't shot anyone, just paperplates and deer! It's alright for a deer gun - heck I've taken a doe every year for the last 8 or 10 at least with my SKS. Just cause I'm in the sticks alot and a scope don't do me no good and the wood stock doesn't show scratches over all the other scratches- open sights and a doe 20 - 100 yards away is meat in the freezer. I use the Savage .308 for buck season when I sit in a blind and wait for him to show up at 150 - 300 yards.
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Old 06-18-2004, 09:03 PM   #7
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only a idiot would own a SKS. The AR 15 is the entry to all combat capability.
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Old 06-18-2004, 10:07 PM   #8
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oh oh oh man Here we go again.
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Old 06-18-2004, 10:12 PM   #9
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SKS a stoopid Commie pece of krap that was cursed on us by import!
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Old 06-18-2004, 10:15 PM   #10
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only a idiot would own a SKS. The AR 15 is the entry to all combat capability.

well, this idiot owns one i would rather count on it then that *^&%@#$&^Matty Mattel special!!!

that ole thutty-thutty will count as an assault rifle too; and so to is your sniper rifles, thinly disguised as a hunting rifle.
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Old 06-18-2004, 10:34 PM   #11
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well, this idiot owns one i would rather count on it then that *^&%@#$&^Matty Mattel special!!!

that ole thutty-thutty will count as an assault rifle too; and so to is your sniper rifles, thinly disguised as a hunting rifle.

Weak choices for tha weak minded!! Need some Geritol? Boy you need some advice an U wish
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flipping the bird as he says F.U.

panty waisted, puny excuse for a man(?)
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U wish sorry for so what?
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Old 06-18-2004, 11:02 PM   #14
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I have a few things to say on this:

First, we should remember three good men died at the hands of some dope pushing SOB that should be hung from the nearest tree. My condolences to the families of those men.

The liberal media is defiantly going to play this for all its worth. That is what they do. Bad timing for the sunset of Bill's Law. I am ready for the NRA to spool up that News network they keep talking about!

I agree that the guy who owns that gun store should get some serious negative feedback on his dumb remarks. Not the kind of publicity he was looking for I am sure!

I own an SKS. While not overly impressed. It is what it is, and overall is not a bad weapon for the money.

And last but not least, In my few days of joining in with you guys on this forum, I have only found one really dumb guy here. "Other" if you do not know what you are talking about or don't have anything constructive to say - don't say it! I own and AR and SKS and to be honest I wouldn't choose either if I knew i was going to be in a serious fight. In your own unique way, you implied that the AR was superior to the SKS. The AR may be a little more accurate, but if you hit what you’re aiming at with the SKS it has superior terminal performance.

VELOCITY (ft/sec)
Cartridge Type Bullet Muzzle 100
7.62x39 123 MC 2365 2060 1780
.223 55 MC 3240 2759 2326

ENERGY (ft-lbs)
Cartridge Type Bullet Muzzle 100
7.62x39 123 MC 1527 1159 865
.233 55 MC 1282 929 660

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p.s. Sorry this was so long. Had a lot to say about this one!
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My bad! I just noticed I called Over - Other in my comments. Obviously I was very impressed!
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Old 06-18-2004, 11:23 PM   #16
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Welcome SilverRun and thanks for your comments. Don't worry about over... he's a sneaky troll that occasionally gets out of his box. He's now banned.

Welcome to GunandGame and enjoy the forums!
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Old 06-18-2004, 11:38 PM   #17
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SKS info for free... http://www.logicsouth.com/~lcoble/dir5/sks_manu.txt
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Old 06-18-2004, 11:48 PM   #18
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Jesse - Thanks for the welcome.
Banned huh? - I like the way you guys work!
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Old 06-19-2004, 12:03 AM   #19
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Welcome Silver Run


Thank You Jesse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! :nod: :ballons: :right: :cheer: :guitar: :lucky:
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Old 06-19-2004, 10:10 AM   #20
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Well, I thought Over was amuseing. Too bad he allows his lack of smarts to rule his mouth. Not a good way to return but, oh well. His arguements were silly. Simple math will tell you a 30 cal. hole will hurt much more than a 22 cal. hole. Even one as dense as I knows that!
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