Freedom Movement

Jesse · 06-20-2004, 12:54 PM

http://www.javelinpress.com/free_state_wyoming.html

This is an interesting movement started By Kenneth Royce calling for a massive influx of Libertarian minded people to Wyoming. Their goal is to set up a Libertarian local, state, and federally represented government.

Jesse · 06-20-2004, 12:56 PM

I thought this strategy would work in New England years ago, but now Wyoming is the main thrust.

06-20-2004, 12:56 PM

Why not, it's how the system works.

Sniper[MI] · 06-20-2004, 01:52 PM

Beautiful Country, that...

I'd love to relocate there once my business is succesful.......or try the same thing with da UP eh? 51st state anyone? "New Hope" is what I'd call the 51st state.....

Lord Shrike · 06-20-2004, 05:58 PM

Something like this was tried by the Libertarians in New Hampshire a few years ago. For some reason they must be changeing the local. Also there is a similar Christian movement in South Carolina.

jerry · 06-20-2004, 08:42 PM

Sniper is right, it would have to be made up primarily of independently wealthy citizens, I couldn't see the common working man loading up the mini-van and heading out. No matter how good the idea.

Well, on second thought, the Amish do it, why not.

Hugh Damright · 06-21-2004, 08:57 AM

Libertarians seem a lot like yankees to me. They seem to think that if they take over a State then it becomes a free State. They don't know what a free State is. A free State is a State which is governed by the people of that State. If a minority group of libertarian activists took over a State, it would not be a free State, it would just be a libertarian State.

06-21-2004, 09:29 AM

Hugh, don't cloud the issue with logic and truth!

Lord Shrike · 06-21-2004, 12:24 PM

Well they would have to build there minority into a majority for this to work anyways. Thats why a choice like Montana would make more sense the a large population state on the east coast.

Hugh Damright · 06-21-2004, 12:45 PM

I'm not sure if that's right ... even if everyone voted, in a three party system it could be as little as 34% that elect ... and with only half the people voting, I am thinking that 15% to 20% of the people could elect the rep.

And I don't the libertarians can win over a majority. I think this is there frustration, and so they hope to take over a State as a minority. Maybe I'm confused but that's how I am looking at it.

06-21-2004, 12:47 PM

Hugh, stop shedding the cold hard light of reality on the issue.

Rufus Rhastus J · 06-22-2004, 12:07 PM

Even with all the problems possible, it's not such a bad idea. Look at the mess we have now! Heck, it's almost communisum now! A couple more years of Klinton and "Presto!"

06-20-2004, 12:54 PM	#1
Jesse Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,946 Images: 2	Freedom Movement http://www.javelinpress.com/free_state_wyoming.html This is an interesting movement started By Kenneth Royce calling for a massive influx of Libertarian minded people to Wyoming. Their goal is to set up a Libertarian local, state, and federally represented government. __________________ Jesse www.gunandgame.com

06-20-2004, 12:56 PM	#2
Jesse Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,946 Images: 2	I thought this strategy would work in New England years ago, but now Wyoming is the main thrust. __________________ Jesse www.gunandgame.com

06-20-2004, 01:52 PM	#4
Sniper[MI] Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Future 51st state, "New Hope" Posts: 3,796	Well He11 yes! Beautiful Country, that... I'd love to relocate there once my business is succesful.......or try the same thing with da UP eh? 51st state anyone? "New Hope" is what I'd call the 51st state..... __________________ FNUH!

06-20-2004, 05:58 PM	#5
Lord Shrike Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: MOOOOOOOOOOO land also known as Wisconsin Posts: 1,113	Something like this was tried by the Libertarians in New Hampshire a few years ago. For some reason they must be changeing the local. Also there is a similar Christian movement in South Carolina. __________________ Taint nuthin a 12 gauge wont solve

06-20-2004, 08:42 PM	#6
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 11,512 Images: 8 Blog Entries: 1	Sniper is right, it would have to be made up primarily of independently wealthy citizens, I couldn't see the common working man loading up the mini-van and heading out. No matter how good the idea. Well, on second thought, the Amish do it, why not. __________________ Proud member of the"Last Minute Hunt Club" Why decide today when we ain't goin' til tomorrow

06-20-2004, 12:56 PM	#3
Mr. Kaneko Guest Posts: n/a	Why not, it's how the system works.

06-21-2004, 08:57 AM	#7
Hugh Damright Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Meadows of Dan, Virginia Posts: 39	Libertarians seem a lot like yankees to me. They seem to think that if they take over a State then it becomes a free State. They don't know what a free State is. A free State is a State which is governed by the people of that State. If a minority group of libertarian activists took over a State, it would not be a free State, it would just be a libertarian State.

06-21-2004, 09:29 AM	#8
Mr. Kaneko Guest Posts: n/a	Hugh, don't cloud the issue with logic and truth!

06-21-2004, 12:24 PM	#9
Lord Shrike Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: MOOOOOOOOOOO land also known as Wisconsin Posts: 1,113	Well they would have to build there minority into a majority for this to work anyways. Thats why a choice like Montana would make more sense the a large population state on the east coast. __________________ Taint nuthin a 12 gauge wont solve

06-21-2004, 12:45 PM	#10
Hugh Damright Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Meadows of Dan, Virginia Posts: 39	I'm not sure if that's right ... even if everyone voted, in a three party system it could be as little as 34% that elect ... and with only half the people voting, I am thinking that 15% to 20% of the people could elect the rep. And I don't the libertarians can win over a majority. I think this is there frustration, and so they hope to take over a State as a minority. Maybe I'm confused but that's how I am looking at it.

06-21-2004, 12:47 PM	#11
Mr. Kaneko Guest Posts: n/a	Hugh, stop shedding the cold hard light of reality on the issue.

06-22-2004, 12:07 PM	#12
Rufus Rhastus J Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: West, Central Florida, Third World America Posts: 6,339 Images: 1	Even with all the problems possible, it's not such a bad idea. Look at the mess we have now! Heck, it's almost communisum now! A couple more years of Klinton and "Presto!" __________________ "They cannot be trusted.....The Romulans (our politicos) are without honor." Worf