Chinese troops training Mexican army to disrupt US border?

Major PITA · 06-24-2004, 10:59 PM

Okay, I know this sounds crazy, and if I hadn't heard it with my own ears, I'm not sure I'd believe that anyone ever said it, but.............................

Earlier today, a local radio talk program had a guest from a nearby Army base. After a discussion on several other topics, the guest brought up intelligence reports that the Chinese had troops in Mexico--disguised as Mexican troops--in order to train the Mexican military for operations to disrupt the border areas in the US as part of some future plan.

The discussion was focused on the need for our National Guard and Reserve troops to be patrolling our borders instead of being in Iraq; this is how the subject came up in the first place.

The guest went on to say that Vicente Fox is a Socialist with ties to China, Russia, and Cuba, and that Mexico maybe preparing for some operation against our Southern Border.

Again, if I hadn't heard this myself I never would have believed that such a thing is possible.

Has anyone else heard of this? The show is not a morning "shock jock" show and the guest was deadly serious.

Does anybody else have any info on this?
__________________

signa · 06-24-2004, 11:23 PM

The training has been ongoing for at least 8 years. Gurkhas have also been documented.
On a side note, reports of Chinese and Russians taking up residence along the US Canadian border. Doesn't that make you feel all warm and fuzzy?
Lambast and demonize the patriot / militia movement if you want but most involved knew about this years ago and the sheeople would not listen. Thguvmnt doesn't want constitutional militias to exist ...that is why the push over and over to put military troops on our borders. This was done for a while in Texas and the result was a yound goat herder shot dead....in the back!

Rufus Rhastus J · 06-25-2004, 08:58 AM

I agree with the need for malitias, I doubt the Chines connection. But, it's possible I'm the one who is wrong.

colt45 · 06-25-2004, 09:46 AM

i have no knowlege of a china conection, but have personaly seen mexican millitary units and vehicles as far as 10 miles inside our boarder when i lived in Texas.
this is nothing new they have been doing it for years, mostly protecting drug shipments, or running them themselves.
without devolging any more i used to be a member of a civilian boarder defence force. we did not reprot to any office of the goverment nor pretend to represent one like some of the other groups doing simillar work. we did however engage any armed intruders across the boarder with extream predjudous(sp) vehicular or ground intrutions.
we had some close calls but sustained no seriouse injurys, we did however disband after repeated attempts of infiltration into out ranks from our mamby pamby do nothing boarder patrol (i know that most of these guys and gals want to do something about it, i'm talking about the system not the officers). Most if not all the memebers where former millitary and the majority where also LEO's.
we found it profoundly sadening that we had to break the laws of our country to protect her from outside invaders and where being hindered in our efforts but enemys from within.
any incursion onto US soil by a forien army, or millitary unti is an act of war. our internal defences have been let down and this has been allowed to go on for at least 20 years that i know of. maybe now that we have a president with some balls we can finaly put a stop to it.

BattleRifleG3 · 06-26-2004, 02:12 PM

I personally suspect that China has a long term strategy to weaken the US militarily. This includes the Middle east (the Chinese have been training and otherwise intellectually aiding Islamic Militants, such as in Sudan) and in Latin America (this border business and the Panama Canal).

It need not be to invade the US, but only to keep the US from interfering with a Red Chinese invasion of Taiwan, ROC.

06-26-2004, 04:49 PM

You people are insane and would believe anything.

Ciaramita · 06-26-2004, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Kaneko

You people are insane and would believe anything.

haha.... That's becuase alot of far right wing people want to believe everyone is in cahoots and plotting against the US. When push comes to shove 13 americans with bb guns could take down the whole Mexican military. And as far as our 75 pound rice eating friends in the West goes.... there !!!!!s.

signa · 06-26-2004, 06:55 PM

Mock and debunk all you like. I have lived in Texas most of my life.
I did not make the statements lightly but from thorough research and documentation
( some of it going back as far as 15 years). I have been in contact with Mexican nationals who provided me with ample evidence of what is going on behind the scenes across the border. Federales on this side, sure happens frequently.
Major PITA asked a straight foward question about specific information.
I answered it.

06-26-2004, 11:53 PM

There also is clear evidence of aliens that has been researched.
I'm not saying there are not strands of truth here and there. I know the Texas border is pretty loose.

What ever happened to the Black helicoptors full of UN soldiers training in Kentuky to take over our country?

I'm fond of the sentence "Again, if I hadn't heard this myself I never would have believed that such a thing is possible."

I read in "the paper" the Aliens have come to give President Bush some advice. Also, the Bat Boy escaped again. Not to mention that Mao is alive and living in Juarez as a velvet Elvis painter.

Dennis · 06-27-2004, 07:17 AM

oh thats funny
velvet elvis painter...................haw haw

So Mr Colt.45
If you anser correctly you will win my understanding and gain credibility

A,) TLI
B,)TSG

So have you ever heard of these organizations?
Please feel free to send me a PM

colt45 · 06-27-2004, 10:20 AM

sorry Dennis, said to much allready.

Despoiler · 06-27-2004, 05:36 PM

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06-27-2004, 07:07 PM

I saw the thing on that website about the Assult weapons ban in MA. It is an irritating ad to say the least.
The problem is that it is a private ad. It's right by Fenway Park.
Appearantly it is the largest outdoor ad or something.

Rave · 06-28-2004, 09:48 AM

Hummmm,to be truthful with you guys,it wouldn't surprise me,I know we are being hurt economically by China,and I know the Communist Chinese gummint would like to sock it to us and they have a lot of patience.
Kind of sounds like a red dawn senario to me and it is possible,might not be tomorrow,but who knows what the future may bring, it is better to err on the side of safety than be caught with our pants down.

06-28-2004, 09:55 AM

China will overtake us without firing a shot. Economics is the weapon of choice for domination.

You are correct when you say they're patient.

Shaun · 06-28-2004, 10:06 AM

The chinese would never survive the gunfire of the citizens of this country -- attack our mainland and you have just woke the sleeping giant.

PAPA G · 06-28-2004, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rave

Hummmm,to be truthful with you guys,it wouldn't surprise me,I know we are being hurt economically by China,and I know the Communist Chinese gummint would like to sock it to us and they have a lot of patience.
Kind of sounds like a red dawn senario to me and it is possible,might not be tomorrow,but who knows what the future may bring, it is better to err on the side of safety than be caught with our pants down.

Rave..... its the greedy capitalist here that is doing it, by outsourcing our jobs to China, to take advantage of the cheap labor, and lack of enviro/saftey regs. Ya'll favorite store, has so much imported stuff its sickening. even the grocery stores, are featuring foods, with made in China label. bought frozen flounder fillets at Kroger, got it home, and yep in the fine print 'PRODUCT OF CHINA'. it sucks the big one

06-28-2004, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun

The chinese would never survive the gunfire of the citizens of this country -- attack our mainland and you have just woke the sleeping giant.

With a global economy, they don't need to invade anything. Your senario is cold war thinking.

Shaun · 06-28-2004, 10:45 AM

K its simple all you have to do is check your labels before buying

06-28-2004, 11:38 AM

That is true. I do that as often as I can. Sometimes the trouble is that an American company will shop out part of it's product line for assembly.
The problem is we don't want to pay the extra money for most of the products made in America.

06-24-2004, 10:59 PM	#1
Major PITA Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 25	Chinese troops training Mexican army to disrupt US border? Okay, I know this sounds crazy, and if I hadn't heard it with my own ears, I'm not sure I'd believe that anyone ever said it, but............................. Earlier today, a local radio talk program had a guest from a nearby Army base. After a discussion on several other topics, the guest brought up intelligence reports that the Chinese had troops in Mexico--disguised as Mexican troops--in order to train the Mexican military for operations to disrupt the border areas in the US as part of some future plan. The discussion was focused on the need for our National Guard and Reserve troops to be patrolling our borders instead of being in Iraq; this is how the subject came up in the first place. The guest went on to say that Vicente Fox is a Socialist with ties to China, Russia, and Cuba, and that Mexico maybe preparing for some operation against our Southern Border. Again, if I hadn't heard this myself I never would have believed that such a thing is possible. Has anyone else heard of this? The show is not a morning "shock jock" show and the guest was deadly serious. Does anybody else have any info on this? __________________ __________________ "If you can read this, thank a teacher; if it's in English, thank a soldier."

06-24-2004, 11:23 PM	#2
signa Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: texas Posts: 53	The training has been ongoing for at least 8 years. Gurkhas have also been documented. On a side note, reports of Chinese and Russians taking up residence along the US Canadian border. Doesn't that make you feel all warm and fuzzy? Lambast and demonize the patriot / militia movement if you want but most involved knew about this years ago and the sheeople would not listen. Thguvmnt doesn't want constitutional militias to exist ...that is why the push over and over to put military troops on our borders. This was done for a while in Texas and the result was a yound goat herder shot dead....in the back! __________________ It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.~ Emiliano Zapata

06-25-2004, 08:58 AM	#3
Rufus Rhastus J Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: West, Central Florida, Third World America Posts: 6,339 Images: 1	I agree with the need for malitias, I doubt the Chines connection. But, it's possible I'm the one who is wrong. __________________ "They cannot be trusted.....The Romulans (our politicos) are without honor." Worf

06-25-2004, 09:46 AM	#4
colt45 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Occupied Territories of New York (Buffalo) Posts: 2,898	i have no knowlege of a china conection, but have personaly seen mexican millitary units and vehicles as far as 10 miles inside our boarder when i lived in Texas. this is nothing new they have been doing it for years, mostly protecting drug shipments, or running them themselves. without devolging any more i used to be a member of a civilian boarder defence force. we did not reprot to any office of the goverment nor pretend to represent one like some of the other groups doing simillar work. we did however engage any armed intruders across the boarder with extream predjudous(sp) vehicular or ground intrutions. we had some close calls but sustained no seriouse injurys, we did however disband after repeated attempts of infiltration into out ranks from our mamby pamby do nothing boarder patrol (i know that most of these guys and gals want to do something about it, i'm talking about the system not the officers). Most if not all the memebers where former millitary and the majority where also LEO's. we found it profoundly sadening that we had to break the laws of our country to protect her from outside invaders and where being hindered in our efforts but enemys from within. any incursion onto US soil by a forien army, or millitary unti is an act of war. our internal defences have been let down and this has been allowed to go on for at least 20 years that i know of. maybe now that we have a president with some balls we can finaly put a stop to it. __________________ "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity" -Sigmund Freud, General Introduction to Psychoanalysis "If guns cause crime, all of mine are defective." - Ted Nugent "Self-defense is Nature's eldest law." -John Dryden

06-26-2004, 02:12 PM	#5
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,454 Images: 13	I personally suspect that China has a long term strategy to weaken the US militarily. This includes the Middle east (the Chinese have been training and otherwise intellectually aiding Islamic Militants, such as in Sudan) and in Latin America (this border business and the Panama Canal). It need not be to invade the US, but only to keep the US from interfering with a Red Chinese invasion of Taiwan, ROC. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

06-26-2004, 04:49 PM	#6
Mr. Kaneko Guest Posts: n/a	You people are insane and would believe anything.

06-26-2004, 06:55 PM	#8
signa Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: texas Posts: 53	Mock and debunk all you like. I have lived in Texas most of my life. I did not make the statements lightly but from thorough research and documentation ( some of it going back as far as 15 years). I have been in contact with Mexican nationals who provided me with ample evidence of what is going on behind the scenes across the border. Federales on this side, sure happens frequently. Major PITA asked a straight foward question about specific information. I answered it. __________________ It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.~ Emiliano Zapata

06-26-2004, 11:53 PM	#9
Mr. Kaneko Guest Posts: n/a	There also is clear evidence of aliens that has been researched. I'm not saying there are not strands of truth here and there. I know the Texas border is pretty loose. What ever happened to the Black helicoptors full of UN soldiers training in Kentuky to take over our country? I'm fond of the sentence "Again, if I hadn't heard this myself I never would have believed that such a thing is possible." I read in "the paper" the Aliens have come to give President Bush some advice. Also, the Bat Boy escaped again. Not to mention that Mao is alive and living in Juarez as a velvet Elvis painter.

06-27-2004, 07:17 AM	#10
Dennis Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,882	oh thats funny velvet elvis painter...................haw haw So Mr Colt.45 If you anser correctly you will win my understanding and gain credibility A,) TLI B,)TSG So have you ever heard of these organizations? Please feel free to send me a PM __________________ Submitted with respect to all

06-27-2004, 10:20 AM	#11
colt45 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Occupied Territories of New York (Buffalo) Posts: 2,898	sorry Dennis, said to much allready. __________________ "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity" -Sigmund Freud, General Introduction to Psychoanalysis "If guns cause crime, all of mine are defective." - Ted Nugent "Self-defense is Nature's eldest law." -John Dryden

06-27-2004, 05:36 PM	#12
Despoiler Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Occupied Territory of California Posts: 2,232	http://www.freerepublic.com/~tli/ind...lv1-%26p%3DTLI

06-27-2004, 07:07 PM	#13
Mr. Kaneko Guest Posts: n/a	I saw the thing on that website about the Assult weapons ban in MA. It is an irritating ad to say the least. The problem is that it is a private ad. It's right by Fenway Park. Appearantly it is the largest outdoor ad or something.

06-28-2004, 09:48 AM	#14
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 7,053	Hummmm,to be truthful with you guys,it wouldn't surprise me,I know we are being hurt economically by China,and I know the Communist Chinese gummint would like to sock it to us and they have a lot of patience. Kind of sounds like a red dawn senario to me and it is possible,might not be tomorrow,but who knows what the future may bring, it is better to err on the side of safety than be caught with our pants down. __________________ USAF '62-'66 .

06-28-2004, 09:55 AM	#15
Mr. Kaneko Guest Posts: n/a	China will overtake us without firing a shot. Economics is the weapon of choice for domination. You are correct when you say they're patient.

06-28-2004, 10:06 AM	#16
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,619 Images: 1	The chinese would never survive the gunfire of the citizens of this country -- attack our mainland and you have just woke the sleeping giant. __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

06-28-2004, 10:45 AM	#19
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,619 Images: 1	K its simple all you have to do is check your labels before buying __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

06-28-2004, 11:38 AM	#20
Mr. Kaneko Guest Posts: n/a	That is true. I do that as often as I can. Sometimes the trouble is that an American company will shop out part of it's product line for assembly. The problem is we don't want to pay the extra money for most of the products made in America.