It's started

jerry · 07-03-2004, 08:08 AM

People are being called up in the IRR (inactive ready reserve) As you may recall these are folks who got out, but are subject to call up for up to 8 years.

A while back ago, some of you asked about the draft. This is first.

07-03-2004, 08:23 AM

Maybe, just maybe, we shouldn't be all over the world with our military forces. It's a thought.

TScottW99 · 07-03-2004, 08:53 AM

IRR was also called up in 90'. No draft when that happened.

07-03-2004, 09:05 AM

You shouldn't take the wind of of his sails like that.

Rufus Rhastus J · 07-03-2004, 09:29 AM

this ain't '90! We got two wars going and trying for two more. Where we gona get the troops? You think those cowards at the UN are gona help?

jerry · 07-03-2004, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kaneko

You shouldn't take the wind of of his sails like that.

K.
No one is taking the wind out of my sails. I just thought it to be an interesting piece of current events.

Furthermore, if for some reason you think I'm not qualified to express opinions on the subject, I beg to differ.

Doglips · 07-03-2004, 10:26 AM

Given my age...current physical condition...and disability rateing of 80%.....Im pretty sure that unless the Chinease invasion comes within 5 miles of my house Im not gona have too much to worry about the draft. My 14yr old daughter....I would send her in a hart beat....she has so much attitude that she would scare most DI's and I would pay to watch her arrive at boot camp.

On a serious note, the IRR is part of the contract....maybe getting recalled torques people off but its in the contract....and like we said in recruiting USMC (U Signed the MF Contract).

07-03-2004, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerry

K.
No one is taking the wind out of my sails. I just thought it to be an interesting piece of current events.

Furthermore, if for some reason you think I'm not qualified to express opinions on the subject, I beg to differ.

Fear not, Jerry. I don't question your qualifications or your original point. It is an interesting piece of current events.
So, peace be with you. :nod:

TScottW99 · 07-03-2004, 10:33 AM

Your right, it's not 1990, it's 2004. In 1990 IRR was called up in October and November, the "war" didn't start until January. I am quite surprised it has taken them so long this time.

I'm not saying a draft isn't going to happen and yes we need more troops.

jerry · 07-03-2004, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Kaneko

Fear not, Jerry. I don't question your qualifications or your original point. It is an interesting piece of current events.
So, peace be with you. :nod:

And also with you. :nod:

PAPA G · 07-03-2004, 12:26 PM

i am in the same boat with 'Lips to old and too banged up to be any good.

how ever we could do clerical stuff and such to free up the able bodied desk commandos for war.

BattleRifleG3 · 07-03-2004, 04:39 PM

I still think if the war gets that bad we should put draftees to work on the supply chain. Giving our best guys what they need will make more of a difference in this war than sending more of the same guys over and spreading the supplies even thinner among them.

I also think before we consider drafting people we should first draft some of those weapons that we're just sitting on. As Patton said, we want the other poor !!!!!!! to die for his country.

Shaun · 07-03-2004, 06:42 PM

I am still young enough and in shape enough -- under a draft if you have multiple degree's does that mean officer if so I am going to have to do a lot to get grunt status

Rufus Rhastus J · 07-04-2004, 09:24 AM

Papa G is correct, us old folks are still good for some things. I'll go, if asked.

BattleRifleG3 · 07-04-2004, 12:45 PM

I'm in fine condition to run, jump, climb, get smacked, fall down, get up again, and shoot, but have a peculiar condition that would hinder being in foreign combat. I still think me and most guys who would be drafted would be better used for homeland security and military supply production.

Big Dog · 07-04-2004, 05:21 PM

I spent six years sitting on my butt in an ET shop - I could do that again.

07-04-2004, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun

I am still young enough and in shape enough -- under a draft if you have multiple degree's does that mean officer if so I am going to have to do a lot to get grunt status

A couple well placed hits with a tack hammer will wipe all that pesky higher education away.
You'll be digging a ditch in no time. :nod:

PAPA G · 07-05-2004, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BattleRifleG3

I still think if the war gets that bad we should put draftees to work on the supply chain. Giving our best guys what they need will make more of a difference in this war than sending more of the same guys over and spreading the supplies even thinner among them.

I also think before we consider drafting people we should first draft some of those weapons that we're just sitting on. As Patton said, we want the other poor !!!!!!! to die for his country.

BRG3 you and gungeek, like to play soldier, as evidenced by some pic posted, draftees, as the last draft was, had little choice of what they did. every swinging Richard in this country, needs to pay their fair share, to the investment made by the Founding Fathers and their believers and followers over 200 years ago.

it is a Sacred Honor, to sacrifice for what this land has given us.

BattleRifleG3 · 07-06-2004, 01:45 AM

Our founding fathers didn't all believe in a standing army, and the thought of going to foreign shores for foreign wars was unthinkable. Not saying we shouldn't, but it's certainly not what they had in mind. George Washington's farewell address is amazingly full of foresight about what we've faced since then.

PAPA G · 07-06-2004, 01:51 AM

yea, well guess what, the Founding Fathers were wise, but their wisdom had been subverted from the gitgo. the vast majority of Americans have no clue what so ever of their countrys history, nor care about it either.

07-03-2004, 08:08 AM	#1
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 11,193 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 1	It's started People are being called up in the IRR (inactive ready reserve) As you may recall these are folks who got out, but are subject to call up for up to 8 years. A while back ago, some of you asked about the draft. This is first. __________________ Joe the plumber is screwed

07-03-2004, 08:53 AM	#3
TScottW99 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Roanoke County, VA Posts: 201	IRR was also called up in 90'. No draft when that happened. __________________ "Those who give up essential liberties for temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety." -Benjamin Franklin http://tscott.fws1.com

07-03-2004, 09:29 AM	#5
Rufus Rhastus J Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: West, Central Florida, Third World America Posts: 6,339 Images: 1	this ain't '90! We got two wars going and trying for two more. Where we gona get the troops? You think those cowards at the UN are gona help? __________________ "They cannot be trusted.....The Romulans (our politicos) are without honor." Worf

07-03-2004, 10:33 AM	#9
TScottW99 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Roanoke County, VA Posts: 201	Your right, it's not 1990, it's 2004. In 1990 IRR was called up in October and November, the "war" didn't start until January. I am quite surprised it has taken them so long this time. I'm not saying a draft isn't going to happen and yes we need more troops. __________________ "Those who give up essential liberties for temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety." -Benjamin Franklin http://tscott.fws1.com

07-03-2004, 04:39 PM	#12
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,452 Images: 13	I still think if the war gets that bad we should put draftees to work on the supply chain. Giving our best guys what they need will make more of a difference in this war than sending more of the same guys over and spreading the supplies even thinner among them. I also think before we consider drafting people we should first draft some of those weapons that we're just sitting on. As Patton said, we want the other poor !!!!!!! to die for his country. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

07-03-2004, 08:23 AM	#2
Mr. Kaneko Guest Posts: n/a	Maybe, just maybe, we shouldn't be all over the world with our military forces. It's a thought.

07-03-2004, 09:05 AM	#4
Mr. Kaneko Guest Posts: n/a	You shouldn't take the wind of of his sails like that.

07-03-2004, 10:26 AM	#7
Doglips Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cocoa Florida Posts: 9,088	Given my age...current physical condition...and disability rateing of 80%.....Im pretty sure that unless the Chinease invasion comes within 5 miles of my house Im not gona have too much to worry about the draft. My 14yr old daughter....I would send her in a hart beat....she has so much attitude that she would scare most DI's and I would pay to watch her arrive at boot camp. On a serious note, the IRR is part of the contract....maybe getting recalled torques people off but its in the contract....and like we said in recruiting USMC (U Signed the MF Contract).

07-03-2004, 12:26 PM	#11
PAPA G Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 11	i am in the same boat with 'Lips to old and too banged up to be any good. how ever we could do clerical stuff and such to free up the able bodied desk commandos for war.

07-03-2004, 06:42 PM	#13
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,619 Images: 1	I am still young enough and in shape enough -- under a draft if you have multiple degree's does that mean officer if so I am going to have to do a lot to get grunt status __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

07-04-2004, 09:24 AM	#14
Rufus Rhastus J Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: West, Central Florida, Third World America Posts: 6,339 Images: 1	Papa G is correct, us old folks are still good for some things. I'll go, if asked. __________________ "They cannot be trusted.....The Romulans (our politicos) are without honor." Worf

07-04-2004, 12:45 PM	#15
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,452 Images: 13	I'm in fine condition to run, jump, climb, get smacked, fall down, get up again, and shoot, but have a peculiar condition that would hinder being in foreign combat. I still think me and most guys who would be drafted would be better used for homeland security and military supply production. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

07-04-2004, 05:21 PM	#16
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,412	I spent six years sitting on my butt in an ET shop - I could do that again. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

07-06-2004, 01:45 AM	#19
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,452 Images: 13	Our founding fathers didn't all believe in a standing army, and the thought of going to foreign shores for foreign wars was unthinkable. Not saying we shouldn't, but it's certainly not what they had in mind. George Washington's farewell address is amazingly full of foresight about what we've faced since then. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

07-06-2004, 01:51 AM	#20
PAPA G Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 11	yea, well guess what, the Founding Fathers were wise, but their wisdom had been subverted from the gitgo. the vast majority of Americans have no clue what so ever of their countrys history, nor care about it either.