what was differant about viet nam? - Page 2

whirlwind · 07-07-2004, 04:05 PM

ruby ridge and waco were not wars,if they were clinton and reno would have been tried for war crimes. i admitedly dont know all the aspects of waco, but ruby ridge was nothing but murder. and in instances where the government acts within our borders and against its own people yes the press should be on it like a dog on a bone.but speaking for myself,i never heard one word about ruby ridge when it happened. it was quite a while after that i heard of the murders there. and both instances were not lead by the military.i believe i said they should not have total access to "wars" or "military actions" i cant remember which now. but one of those. police actions within our borders are differant.

07-07-2004, 06:43 PM

Ernie Goldberg and Anne Coulter have strong conservative opinions but they're both in the media you claim is owned by the liberal cabal. That doesn't make sense.

If we didn't have a free press, most of the conversation on this site would not exist.

Shaun · 07-07-2004, 06:48 PM

The press is liberal check the way they push stories nothing out of the majors (CBS< ABC, NBC, CNN )showed the positve light of what has happened overseas. Look at these when they refer to President BUsh they call him Mr. Bush not President that shows a clear bias. Gannett publishing has a clear statement that all papers owned by their company promote the liberal line they are to only allow a minimal side of the conservative opinion

PAPA G · 07-07-2004, 07:10 PM

ahhhhhhhhh, another topic running off subject.

war is war, no matter when, someone gets shot and killed, on both sides of the line, the side with the highest body count loses.

get over it guys, its the way of the world, and its never going to change!!!

07-07-2004, 07:42 PM

Is this an example of Gannet's liberal bias?

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...ort-iraq_x.htm

Shaun · 07-07-2004, 08:33 PM

Gannet's TN paper the Tennessean oonly allows for a single day a week where the editiorials are allowed to be on the conservative side. All the rest of the days they are pushing the liberal line -- I have been involved with the tax protests here and we have see it -- all three or the networks and the paper said we were trouble making protesters yet at every protest the press failed to see that there was no violence and the protests were used to educate kids about the process. All the press there claimed was violence yet the PD has no record of any such case at or during the protests over the two years the battles went on -- during the last election responsible for the gov. the paper would not do any positive stories regarding the Republican candidate but they did plenty to support the tax and spend liberal democrat. by the way your link doesn't work

07-07-2004, 10:06 PM

Oh, sorry about the link. It was to the 9/11 comission citing the CIA and not the White house as at fault for a lot of stuff.
Your experience with the press in town is a good example of unbalanced reporting. I'd be interested to read those pieces which specifically distort the facts to further an agenda.

NPR spent a great deal of time talking about John Kerry and What'shisname.

Bias exists. If you or I ran a newspaper, we might be prone to tell our news in a different light.
Still, I'm glad we have the type of press we do, flaws and all.

Shaun · 07-07-2004, 10:26 PM

I am not happy with the current press at all because they promote only the slime put out by the liberals and not the truth

TheTeXasSoldier · 07-07-2004, 10:34 PM

Its simple The press is owned by liberals, you never hear about it on T.V. because they own the news, you turn on The TV knowdays all you hear is BUSH SUX KERRY RULES, it freakin redicules. I remember when they use to show anti-war rallies when their was one, but there was atleast 30 pro-bush rallies that knowone even heard about, its just rediculas.

07-08-2004, 07:27 AM

I think NBC in all it entities is actually pretty conservative.

Rave · 07-08-2004, 12:14 PM

Just because we don't see or hear Armageddon doesn't mean it is'nt waiting over the horizon.

Rufus Rhastus J · 07-09-2004, 07:52 AM

Extremly good point.

Rave · 07-09-2004, 08:24 AM

From my studies it looks like most of the pieces have fallen into place with only two large ones left,then the ever popular term will apply,SHTF.

07-07-2004, 04:05 PM	#21
whirlwind Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: oklahoma Posts: 3,739 Images: 1	ruby ridge and waco were not wars,if they were clinton and reno would have been tried for war crimes. i admitedly dont know all the aspects of waco, but ruby ridge was nothing but murder. and in instances where the government acts within our borders and against its own people yes the press should be on it like a dog on a bone.but speaking for myself,i never heard one word about ruby ridge when it happened. it was quite a while after that i heard of the murders there. and both instances were not lead by the military.i believe i said they should not have total access to "wars" or "military actions" i cant remember which now. but one of those. police actions within our borders are differant. __________________ De oppresso liber !

07-07-2004, 06:48 PM	#23
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,592 Images: 1	The press is liberal check the way they push stories nothing out of the majors (CBS< ABC, NBC, CNN )showed the positve light of what has happened overseas. Look at these when they refer to President BUsh they call him Mr. Bush not President that shows a clear bias. Gannett publishing has a clear statement that all papers owned by their company promote the liberal line they are to only allow a minimal side of the conservative opinion __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

07-07-2004, 08:33 PM	#26
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,592 Images: 1	Gannet's TN paper the Tennessean oonly allows for a single day a week where the editiorials are allowed to be on the conservative side. All the rest of the days they are pushing the liberal line -- I have been involved with the tax protests here and we have see it -- all three or the networks and the paper said we were trouble making protesters yet at every protest the press failed to see that there was no violence and the protests were used to educate kids about the process. All the press there claimed was violence yet the PD has no record of any such case at or during the protests over the two years the battles went on -- during the last election responsible for the gov. the paper would not do any positive stories regarding the Republican candidate but they did plenty to support the tax and spend liberal democrat. by the way your link doesn't work __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

07-07-2004, 10:26 PM	#28
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,592 Images: 1	I am not happy with the current press at all because they promote only the slime put out by the liberals and not the truth __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

07-07-2004, 10:34 PM	#29
TheTeXasSoldier Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 74	Its simple The press is owned by liberals, you never hear about it on T.V. because they own the news, you turn on The TV knowdays all you hear is BUSH SUX KERRY RULES, it freakin redicules. I remember when they use to show anti-war rallies when their was one, but there was atleast 30 pro-bush rallies that knowone even heard about, its just rediculas. __________________ "Alright Im comeing out don't shoot, If you do I won't kill you, I'll kill your wife, your freinds, shoot your damn dog, and burn your damn house down"..........................................."A nd you better berry Ned right, because If you don't I'll come back and kill every single one of you Son's Of Bit***'s"! - Clint Eastwood - Unforgiven

07-07-2004, 06:43 PM	#22
Mr. Kaneko Guest Posts: n/a	Ernie Goldberg and Anne Coulter have strong conservative opinions but they're both in the media you claim is owned by the liberal cabal. That doesn't make sense. If we didn't have a free press, most of the conversation on this site would not exist.

07-07-2004, 07:10 PM	#24
PAPA G Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 12	ahhhhhhhhh, another topic running off subject. war is war, no matter when, someone gets shot and killed, on both sides of the line, the side with the highest body count loses. get over it guys, its the way of the world, and its never going to change!!!

07-07-2004, 07:42 PM	#25
Mr. Kaneko Guest Posts: n/a	Is this an example of Gannet's liberal bias? http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...ort-iraq_x.htm

07-07-2004, 10:06 PM	#27
Mr. Kaneko Guest Posts: n/a	Oh, sorry about the link. It was to the 9/11 comission citing the CIA and not the White house as at fault for a lot of stuff. Your experience with the press in town is a good example of unbalanced reporting. I'd be interested to read those pieces which specifically distort the facts to further an agenda. NPR spent a great deal of time talking about John Kerry and What'shisname. Bias exists. If you or I ran a newspaper, we might be prone to tell our news in a different light. Still, I'm glad we have the type of press we do, flaws and all.

07-08-2004, 07:27 AM	#30
Mr. Kaneko Guest Posts: n/a	I think NBC in all it entities is actually pretty conservative.

07-08-2004, 12:14 PM	#31
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 6,877	Just because we don't see or hear Armageddon doesn't mean it is'nt waiting over the horizon. __________________ USAF '62-'66 .

07-09-2004, 07:52 AM	#32
Rufus Rhastus J Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: West, Central Florida, Third World America Posts: 6,339 Images: 1	Extremly good point. __________________ "They cannot be trusted.....The Romulans (our politicos) are without honor." Worf

07-09-2004, 08:24 AM	#33
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 6,877	From my studies it looks like most of the pieces have fallen into place with only two large ones left,then the ever popular term will apply,SHTF. __________________ USAF '62-'66 .