I saw three kings again and I finally got it

[Dennis]

man what a movie
in the light of current events I cant think of a more motivating motion picture.
Originally I think the movie was made as an anti American movie with the premis that we had left the Iraqis high and dry in the end and now..........
with the knowledge that there is a free Iraq
We came back and finnished the job. when very few wanted to.
the three kings where clooney and walberg and the black guy (Ice tea ,black tea, ice cube or something like that)
they became kings when they bought the freedom of the iraqi people that had helped them during the gas attack.
That was nobel.

We have tought the world nationalism and now we seen to have lost it ourselves
it seems we are the United States in words only
thats what the terrorists are counting on
So are the Democrats
In my heart they are completly wrong
When they attacked the towers they attacked Me.
My step sister worked on the 62 floor of tower two of WTC
(She wasnt there that day thank god)
when they attacked the pentagon they attacked me
when they attacked the embassy in Kenya they attacked ME
when they blow up a IED under a U.S. army humvee
THEY ATTACK ME
I am still Furious over the things that have happend
I have no understanding no empathy no sympathy for those shitheads
We need to blast aljazzeria TV off the face of the earth
level falujia leave not one stone upon another.
start at one side and bomb the city from south to north
move two blocks north every hour with artillery fire massed just north of the city
as the people are driven out
cut them down like hay
They will be pacified when they are dead................
Then we will see if the next town will do something like that again.
and if they do
we do it again
and again and again
eventually they will learn
it is amazing how fast people can learn things when they are motivated to
when the innocents find that they can be killed as easily as the bad guys they will seperate them selves from the bad guys pretty quickly (and turn in the ones hideing amongest them)
These concepts of human warfare are as old as time it self
I cant understand the sheer arrogance of the war fighter comanders to believe that somehow they can "think up" a different, better way.
we have incredible weapons but it doesnt change a thing.
We are still humans fighting humans.
the rules are the same from the caves to right now.
it is a horrible immutable truth.
we are wasting our time there untill embrace this truths
we must conquer them.
the countdown to the big "plumb" is allready started
they are going to hit us and try to make a "spanish"election here in the US
if they succeed they win the war and we will have seen the last of America as a dominant power.
Kerry will see to that.
If they do not succeed then Iran and pakistan will be next
once we get over our PC crap start controlling the news and the theater of operations.
i dont think there is a way to avoid a nuclear incedent now
there are so many that refuse to believe anything is wrong.

[Dale]

I hear it's a great movie..........though, without having seen it, I don't see it's connection to today's crisis in Iraq.

But, on your recommendation, Dennis, it's goin' on my 'must see' list.

Thanks.

The Russians had the very same idea when they went into Afganistan.

I think our current policies are working in Iraq. A lot of good is happening over there but it doesn't make the news since it isn't as sexy as lost marines, beheaded koreans and, so forth.

I didn't find Three Kings to be that compelling but, to each their own.

[Rufus Rhastus J]

Dennis, you are correct but, the power of the PC crowd is awsome! I hope you don't hold your breath waiting on the gumint to grow a back bone and level the place. Not in this life time. That mess will drag on for twenty years, mark my words.

If we use actions that make us the monsters that we blame them for being, what are we? What kind of lesson is that? Blow stuff up until you get your way? That is terrorism. Plain and simple.

There are people that have used your ideas Dennis. Their names are forever etched in history books: Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot...the list goes on. Guess what? They all lost. Their ideas were proven to be evil, wrong, and in the end...ineffective. Those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.

Lenny, don't say that stuff, it makes too much sense.
I say "When in doubt, bomb everything."

Also,

[Dennis]

Nope sorry there is a big difference.
we did not begin this, we did not start it, we did not want it.
and we are not there to stay.
we have not gone in to Iraq to take it away from Iraqis
we are not there for our national gain other than to ensure our own security.
every one knows that, everyone in Iraq
everyone in the world.
all the dictators you mentioned where doing bad things for other reasons
the reason makes all the difference in the world.
a cop shoots a bad guy he isnt automatically charged with murder is he?
when a soldier kills a enemy soldier he is not guilty of murder is he?
what I propose is retribution not murder.

its silly to think otherwise
Lenny its people that think like you that convinced Johnson to prolong the war in viet nam, its people like you that will cause the middle east to continue to be a gapeing sore with millions dead and dieing there and eventually
here.
we will not win untill we stop careing
when we stop giveing a !!!! then they will start lisening to what WE say to What WE want.
We The United States of America are the most powerful nation in the history of the human species.
we can rule the earth we just need to decide to do it.
Iraq is small fry and we are treating that country like it is some hidden whale that will defeat us
it is we who defeat ourselves
all we needed to do to prevail in vietnam was to decide to win.
to hell with the chinese lets
roll up the coast and in to Hanoi
the chicoms would have not liked it
but we know they would have stayed out same as the Soviets.
we needed to take that gamble in about 1967-68.

We should just bomb everything outside our borders. That'll teach those people who don't think we're up to it.

[Shaun]

Kill them all let Allah sort them out

Yes!
Never mind that fact that bombing them is exactly what these extremists need to solidify their power base.

[Dennis]

You dont understand Mr K
"solidify their power base"
WRONG
If we bomb them there wont be any powerbase
there wont be any extremists
you would be suprised how that will happen
When we stop careing and go in with that atitude
you wont be able to find ANY extremists

at the end of the second world war there where not ANY nazis in Germany. just ask them.

The biggest end product of war is to change what people think and accept.

Would it not be nice if we could just tell them how wrong they where and have then understand and comply.
Sorry
we are in the real world
humans fighting humans
same as all the times before.
We must conquer them
sending 12 mirvs in to mecca during the hodge
Teran,Daharan, Riad,Damascus, Jakarta
All at the same time.
all the major Muslim population centers
after that, the next one that pipes up complaining
screaming for war.
hit them. too
When We stop careing what they thing they will start careing what we think
The world may not survive but then if we dont act and WIN
we are forced back to the 7th century anyway.
So
its not our choice any way.
We can wrangle and carry on but the reality is the only imput we have is one vote.

No, I do understand.

[SexyRedXterra]

I think I'm going to move to the moon and start my own colony. Corrupt, dirty politics are really getting to me. It's just turning into a hateful wrestling match, for lack of a better analogy.

SRX, your moon colony will have the same problem only everyone will be lighter.

[SexyRedXterra]

Well that's one problem sovled.

Originally Posted by Dennis

we are not there for our national gain other than to ensure our own security.

That is pure BS and you know it. Every single report to come out regarding the capability or Iraq to do us harm has PROVEN that they were not a threat. Even reports from our CIA PROVE the same thing that almost the entire world has been saying all elong: they were not a threat.

You are just cheering at the fact that muslims have been invaded. You wouldn't believe a mountain of evidence if it were sittin gin your lap.

[Dennis]

Lenny where ya been pal? just get back for a cruise in florida?
I have been wondering where your smileing face was
you Forgot something in your last post...................
Everyone KNEW saddam had WMD's
when we went in to Iraq.
There has been enough evidence to convince me,
thats been allready found.
so many refuse to accept that they where there and Are there now.
There was a second sarin gas IED set off last week by the way
but I understand that that will not be enough to convince you
as a matter of face Ill bet there isnt Anything that could convince you that President Bush was right in going to war with Iraq
That we in these United States should not do anything against the Arabs that kill our people and destroy our country
we should never fight back no matter what.
I understand Lenny that these ideas are horrific to you
that you have been tought to be passive at all costs
thats ok .......................for you
go and do that lenny
Us grown ups will take care of this.
just work and pay your taxes (lessened taxes)
start a garden grow your hair watch the paint dry.

enjoy your pointless life.


Its ok lenny

If everyone knows there was WMD's in Iraq why did Tony Blair say he has to admit there wasn't any. Bush has said the same thing.
It was an intellegence snafu of tremendous proportion. They thought there were, but that's because the CIA was dead wrong.

A couple hits of Sarin gas do not justify invasion.

It is good that we are there. I think in the next ten years (because that is how long this will take) Iraq will be doing great. Make no mistake, we're there for the long haul.

What's with the insults?

[Rufus Rhastus J]

My favorite statement appears to be needed here: "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers!" We ae already in this mess, crying in our beer will not help. We may as well finish what we started. Let's get busy, blasting all those who get in the way! It will make life easier for all concerned. Even the most stupid of camel molesters will figure out the best course of action to take to preserve his/her continued existance.

Originally Posted by Dennis

That we in these United States should not do anything against the Arabs that kill our people and destroy our country
we should never fight back no matter what.
Its ok lenny

You don't keep up too well do you? Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. It has been admitted by our beloved government time and time again. Did you happen to miss every broadcast and article?

If you think Iraq had anything to do with 9/11, I'm sure the CIA and the Bush Administration would love to see your evidence so they could present it to the rest of the world.

Please look at a map. Iraq and Afghanistan are two different countries. They don't even share a common border.