The Point

oneastrix · 07-12-2004, 11:56 AM

Do any of ya'll get this guy on your local news? You can find him on www.newscentral.tv I enjoy him most of the time. Here's what he said last night........

The Noble War

In the weeks following the dedication of the World War II Memorial we've heard that war referred to as the Noble War. Some call it a noble war because, they say, it was a total nation effort demanding sacrifice of every man, woman and child.

But how did the war get to be so big that it demanded a total effort? For one, the most powerful nation that could have stopped Hitler early on ignored him while he marched through Europe, killing millions on the battlefields and at home. Some Americans even opposed going to war with Hitler. After all, he never attacked America. But what would have happened if we had gone against Hitler years earlier? Long before he began his march through Europe? Long before the war demanded a total nation effort? Clearly we would have saved millions of lives. But would people still have called World War II a noble war? Or would they have called it an unjustified attack on a dictator who didn't pose a threat to the United States by a reckless President Roosevelt?

Those who didn't fight in World War II but who describe it as if it were some romantic encounter as portrayed in the movies have a very different view of it than those who fought in it remembered.

It was a long hard slog. The US fought the Germans for four years. And then remained there another half century, first, quelling uprisings and then, keeping the peace. Those who refer to World War II as a noble war but fail to see the parallels between Hitler and Saddam, Nazi fascism and Baathist fascism, atrocities against German citizens and atrocities against Iraqi citizens, and invasions against European neighbors and invasions against Persian Gulf neighbors, will never get it. They'll never understand that ending human suffering is always a noble cause.

And that's The Point.

I'm Mark Hyman.

NRAJOE · 07-12-2004, 11:58 AM

I know his brother...Gynocologist...Dr.Buster Hyman....

oneastrix · 07-12-2004, 12:01 PM

LOL....saw that coming.

Here's what he had to say about Michael Moore the other day. Interesting, and I like the ending.

More on Michael Moore

The Federal Elections Commission should immediately dismiss the complaint filed against Michael Moore's latest film.

The complaint alleges that commercials for Moore's film are political ads and therefore fall under restrictions imposed by so-called Campaign Finance Reform. I disagree for the following reasons.

One. Everyone knows this film is purely political speech and has no artistic or entertainment value. Nonetheless, it deserves the protections afforded to entertainment programming.

Two. Onerous First Amendment restrictions imposed by the Campaign Finance Reform Act - although narrowly upheld by the Supreme Court last year - are just plain wrong. No one should have a gag order imposed on them when it comes to political speech, even Michael Moore.

Three. The absurd allegations and fabrications put forward by Moore in his film are no worse than the absurd allegations and fabrications put forward by slanted media outlets. How about USA Today's Jack Kelley, the New York Times's Jayson Blair, daily comments from Peter Jennings, Dan Rather, or virtually anything that airs on National Public Radio. Remember last year when the now disgraced New York Times editor Howell Raines (before he was fired) directed several dozen stories to be published about the silly Martha Burke-Masters golf Tournament scandal? It turned out to be a scandal only in the mind of Howell Raines.

And finally. No reasonable person would take seriously anything said by someone who has so little respect for himself that he allows himself to look like this.

I support schlockumentary filmmaker Michael Moore's right to engage in political speech.

And that's the Point.

I'm Mark Hyman.

NRAJOE · 07-12-2004, 12:02 PM

:right:

ScottD · 07-12-2004, 12:06 PM

I knew Buster too!

oneastrix · 07-13-2004, 01:36 AM

Yeah...despite his last name....this guy's good!

07-12-2004, 11:56 AM	#1
oneastrix Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 5,213	The Point - Mark Hyman Do any of ya'll get this guy on your local news? You can find him on www.newscentral.tv I enjoy him most of the time. Here's what he said last night........ The Noble War In the weeks following the dedication of the World War II Memorial we've heard that war referred to as the Noble War. Some call it a noble war because, they say, it was a total nation effort demanding sacrifice of every man, woman and child. But how did the war get to be so big that it demanded a total effort? For one, the most powerful nation that could have stopped Hitler early on ignored him while he marched through Europe, killing millions on the battlefields and at home. Some Americans even opposed going to war with Hitler. After all, he never attacked America. But what would have happened if we had gone against Hitler years earlier? Long before he began his march through Europe? Long before the war demanded a total nation effort? Clearly we would have saved millions of lives. But would people still have called World War II a noble war? Or would they have called it an unjustified attack on a dictator who didn't pose a threat to the United States by a reckless President Roosevelt? Those who didn't fight in World War II but who describe it as if it were some romantic encounter as portrayed in the movies have a very different view of it than those who fought in it remembered. It was a long hard slog. The US fought the Germans for four years. And then remained there another half century, first, quelling uprisings and then, keeping the peace. Those who refer to World War II as a noble war but fail to see the parallels between Hitler and Saddam, Nazi fascism and Baathist fascism, atrocities against German citizens and atrocities against Iraqi citizens, and invasions against European neighbors and invasions against Persian Gulf neighbors, will never get it. They'll never understand that ending human suffering is always a noble cause. And that's The Point. I'm Mark Hyman. __________________ There's no one more thankful to sit at the table, than the one who best remembers hunger's pain.

07-12-2004, 11:58 AM	#2
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,252 Images: 3	I know his brother...Gynocologist...Dr.Buster Hyman.... __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

07-12-2004, 12:01 PM	#3
oneastrix Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 5,213	LOL....saw that coming. Here's what he had to say about Michael Moore the other day. Interesting, and I like the ending. More on Michael Moore The Federal Elections Commission should immediately dismiss the complaint filed against Michael Moore's latest film. The complaint alleges that commercials for Moore's film are political ads and therefore fall under restrictions imposed by so-called Campaign Finance Reform. I disagree for the following reasons. One. Everyone knows this film is purely political speech and has no artistic or entertainment value. Nonetheless, it deserves the protections afforded to entertainment programming. Two. Onerous First Amendment restrictions imposed by the Campaign Finance Reform Act - although narrowly upheld by the Supreme Court last year - are just plain wrong. No one should have a gag order imposed on them when it comes to political speech, even Michael Moore. Three. The absurd allegations and fabrications put forward by Moore in his film are no worse than the absurd allegations and fabrications put forward by slanted media outlets. How about USA Today's Jack Kelley, the New York Times's Jayson Blair, daily comments from Peter Jennings, Dan Rather, or virtually anything that airs on National Public Radio. Remember last year when the now disgraced New York Times editor Howell Raines (before he was fired) directed several dozen stories to be published about the silly Martha Burke-Masters golf Tournament scandal? It turned out to be a scandal only in the mind of Howell Raines. And finally. No reasonable person would take seriously anything said by someone who has so little respect for himself that he allows himself to look like this. I support schlockumentary filmmaker Michael Moore's right to engage in political speech. And that's the Point. I'm Mark Hyman. __________________ There's no one more thankful to sit at the table, than the one who best remembers hunger's pain.

07-12-2004, 12:02 PM	#4
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,252 Images: 3	:right: __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

07-12-2004, 12:06 PM	#5
ScottD Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Evanston, IL Posts: 1,020	I knew Buster too! __________________ "Some people can not live without wilderness"-Aldo Leopold

07-13-2004, 01:36 AM	#6
oneastrix Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 5,213	Yeah...despite his last name....this guy's good! __________________ There's no one more thankful to sit at the table, than the one who best remembers hunger's pain.