France should learn to not pester its betters

dhermesc · 07-19-2004, 01:16 PM

France: Sharon unwelcome after call on Jews to immigrate

France informed Israel Monday that Prime Minister Sharon, whose office has been planning a visit to France, is not welcome in light of his call to French Jews to immigrate to Israel.

Israeli diplomatic officials said that Maurice Gourdault-Montagne, French President Jacques Chirac's personal diplomatic advisor, spoke to Israeli diplomat Jacques Revah and informed him that as a result of Sharon's call to French Jewry to leave France, "there is no reason to see Sharon." Revah is filling in for vacationing ambassador Nissim Zvili.

Israeli diplomatic officials said although no date had yet been set for a visit, such a visit was in the planning stage.

According to French Foreign Ministry statistics - 135 physical attacks against Jews. By comparison, in all of 2003 there were 127 such attacks.

While praising the French government for taking steps to fight anti-Semitism, Sharon said, "We see the spread of the wildest anti-Semitism there."

Sharon said that he calls on Jews from around the world to immigrate to Israel, but that this is especially critical now for French Jews. "That's what I say to Jews all around the world, but there I think it's a must, and they have to move immediately."

Gourdault-Montagne, according to Israeli officials, detailed for Revah all the steps that France had made to fight anti-Semitism, as well as the recent overtures it had made to Israel - including rolling out the red carpet for President Moshe Katsav during his visit earlier in the year.

Attempts by Revah to put Sharon's comments in the context of an overall call Sharon always makes to Diaspora Jewry to immigrate, and that his comments came in response to a question and were not part of his prepared speech, fell on deaf ears. Efforts by Revah to stress that Sharon, during his comments, praised the French government for fighting anti-Semitism also did nothing to mollify Paris' anger.

Sharon, during a speech to the leadership of the United Jewish Communities on Sunday, called on France's 600,000 Jews to immigrate to Israel "immediately."

"If I have to advocate to our brothers in France, I would tell them one thing: move to Israel, as early as possible," Sharon said, in response to a question about anti-Semitism in France and in Europe.

Unlike the US, Israel has no problems kicking the occassional arse when push come to shove. Just wonder if Israel woud make France a vacation spot or a dumping ground for its nuclear program,

NRAJOE · 07-19-2004, 01:21 PM

I wouldn't want to live in "Frogland"....no self respecting Jew would either...I'd get outta France and help the homeland.....

Shaun · 07-19-2004, 02:23 PM

Isreali's allow Concealed carry and welcome it of all citizens from what I have read in the past.

Oxford · 07-19-2004, 02:35 PM

...and they require all young adults to serve time in the military, regardless of gender.

whirlwind · 07-19-2004, 03:39 PM

israel rocks! too bad they are plagued with all those frickin' arab sonsuvuhbiotches!

NRAJOE · 07-19-2004, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Oxford

...and they require all young adults to serve time in the military, regardless of gender.

:right:

Shaun · 07-19-2004, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Oxford

...and they require all young adults to serve time in the military, regardless of gender.

Ox your being PC again -- the proper term should have been sex - gender refers to the use of a word.

SexyRedXterra · 07-19-2004, 08:34 PM

France sux.

Oxford · 07-19-2004, 08:53 PM

Shaun...would you believe that I did retype what I originally wrote. First I wrote "sex" but I knew you'd catch me on the politically correct stuff :nod:

Shaun · 07-19-2004, 09:03 PM

Ox I am just striving for a PC free forum

Oxford · 07-19-2004, 09:14 PM

Don't hold your breath while you're waiting.

There's only a couple of g&g members who work overtime editing everything to be PC, tactful, not boastful, friendly at all times...not.

:right: I won't mention their names. One's name starts with the eleventh letter of the alphabet. Ok...get our your calculators.

07-19-2004, 09:17 PM

Kiss my butt!

07-19-2004, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by whirlwind

israel rocks! too bad they are plagued with all those frickin' arab sonsuvuhbiotches!

Who were there first!

colt45 · 07-19-2004, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kaneko

Who were there first!

whats your point? who was here first?

Oxford · 07-19-2004, 09:51 PM

k...you do know the alphabet.

Shaun · 07-19-2004, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Oxford

k...you do know the alphabet.

Good comment Joe

whirlwind · 07-20-2004, 12:08 AM

history tells us that "who was there first" doesnt count...who will be there last counts.

Despoiler · 07-20-2004, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by whirlwind

history tells us that "who was there first" doesnt count...who will be there last counts.

That is so TRUE, whirlwind.

dhermesc · 07-20-2004, 07:21 AM

The Jewish people might be able to lay claim to the "we where here first" arguement against the Muslims. They just where not always there - being enslaved kind of hurts your property rights.

07-20-2004, 07:28 AM

Tough tittie is what I say.
I have no problem with the exisitence of Israel, but Sharon is a thug.

07-19-2004, 01:16 PM	#1
dhermesc Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: East Central Kansas Posts: 1,763 Trader Rating: (0)	France should learn to not pester its betters France: Sharon unwelcome after call on Jews to immigrate France informed Israel Monday that Prime Minister Sharon, whose office has been planning a visit to France, is not welcome in light of his call to French Jews to immigrate to Israel. Israeli diplomatic officials said that Maurice Gourdault-Montagne, French President Jacques Chirac's personal diplomatic advisor, spoke to Israeli diplomat Jacques Revah and informed him that as a result of Sharon's call to French Jewry to leave France, "there is no reason to see Sharon." Revah is filling in for vacationing ambassador Nissim Zvili. Israeli diplomatic officials said although no date had yet been set for a visit, such a visit was in the planning stage. According to French Foreign Ministry statistics - 135 physical attacks against Jews. By comparison, in all of 2003 there were 127 such attacks. While praising the French government for taking steps to fight anti-Semitism, Sharon said, "We see the spread of the wildest anti-Semitism there." Sharon said that he calls on Jews from around the world to immigrate to Israel, but that this is especially critical now for French Jews. "That's what I say to Jews all around the world, but there I think it's a must, and they have to move immediately." Gourdault-Montagne, according to Israeli officials, detailed for Revah all the steps that France had made to fight anti-Semitism, as well as the recent overtures it had made to Israel - including rolling out the red carpet for President Moshe Katsav during his visit earlier in the year. Attempts by Revah to put Sharon's comments in the context of an overall call Sharon always makes to Diaspora Jewry to immigrate, and that his comments came in response to a question and were not part of his prepared speech, fell on deaf ears. Efforts by Revah to stress that Sharon, during his comments, praised the French government for fighting anti-Semitism also did nothing to mollify Paris' anger. Sharon, during a speech to the leadership of the United Jewish Communities on Sunday, called on France's 600,000 Jews to immigrate to Israel "immediately." "If I have to advocate to our brothers in France, I would tell them one thing: move to Israel, as early as possible," Sharon said, in response to a question about anti-Semitism in France and in Europe. Unlike the US, Israel has no problems kicking the occassional arse when push come to shove. Just wonder if Israel woud make France a vacation spot or a dumping ground for its nuclear program, __________________ Liberty is for those that claim it.

07-19-2004, 01:21 PM	#2
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,010 Trader Rating: (0)	I wouldn't want to live in "Frogland"....no self respecting Jew would either...I'd get outta France and help the homeland..... __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

07-19-2004, 02:23 PM	#3
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,585 Trader Rating: (0)	Isreali's allow Concealed carry and welcome it of all citizens from what I have read in the past. __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

07-19-2004, 02:35 PM	#4
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 12,981 Trader Rating: (0)	...and they require all young adults to serve time in the military, regardless of gender. __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

07-19-2004, 03:39 PM	#5
whirlwind Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: oklahoma Posts: 3,730 Trader Rating: (0)	israel rocks! too bad they are plagued with all those frickin' arab sonsuvuhbiotches! __________________ De oppresso liber !

07-19-2004, 08:34 PM	#8
SexyRedXterra Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NJ Shore and Western PA Posts: 1,206 Trader Rating: (0)	France sux. __________________ "God doesn't always do things on our schedule, but he's always right on time."

07-19-2004, 08:53 PM	#9
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 12,981 Trader Rating: (0)	Shaun...would you believe that I did retype what I originally wrote. First I wrote "sex" but I knew you'd catch me on the politically correct stuff :nod: __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

07-19-2004, 09:03 PM	#10
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,585 Trader Rating: (0)	Ox I am just striving for a PC free forum __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

07-19-2004, 09:14 PM	#11
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 12,981 Trader Rating: (0)	Don't hold your breath while you're waiting. There's only a couple of g&g members who work overtime editing everything to be PC, tactful, not boastful, friendly at all times...not. :right: I won't mention their names. One's name starts with the eleventh letter of the alphabet. Ok...get our your calculators. __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

07-19-2004, 09:17 PM	#12
Mr. Kaneko Guest Posts: n/a	Kiss my butt!

07-19-2004, 09:51 PM	#15
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 12,981 Trader Rating: (0)	k...you do know the alphabet. __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

07-20-2004, 12:08 AM	#17
whirlwind Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: oklahoma Posts: 3,730 Trader Rating: (0)	history tells us that "who was there first" doesnt count...who will be there last counts. __________________ De oppresso liber !

07-20-2004, 07:21 AM	#19
dhermesc Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: East Central Kansas Posts: 1,763 Trader Rating: (0)	The Jewish people might be able to lay claim to the "we where here first" arguement against the Muslims. They just where not always there - being enslaved kind of hurts your property rights. __________________ Liberty is for those that claim it.

07-20-2004, 07:28 AM	#20
Mr. Kaneko Guest Posts: n/a	Tough tittie is what I say. I have no problem with the exisitence of Israel, but Sharon is a thug.