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Old 08-01-2004, 05:22 PM   #21
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sick of the whining about crap issuses. milk averages $4. a gallon around here, i don't see any one complaining about "BIG MILK"!!! everything, and i mean every thing uses oil in some form or another. all prices will go up on the products and services that use oil. if wages don't rise with the cost of living, get another job!!! get a Schwinn and a milk cow, and beat the odds!!!
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Old 08-01-2004, 06:19 PM   #22
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Get a different job????

It's not that dang easy, Papa.

It's unwise, and not prudent, for someone to give up an established job and go looking at an entry level position with less pay.

For example, my wife drives well over 100 miles to and from work each day.

She's been with her company for over 20 years and has an excellent pension pending.

She explored going with a comparable company but, since she has no tenure with the new company they wanted to pay her less than half of what she is getting now...for the very same job.

Plus, she would loose any pension she has vested with her current company.

However, her yearly raise, although respectable, has never equalled the cost of living index.

I know of NO business that keeps it's base employee wages par with inflation.

Oh, they might give their base employees raises but none that I know of gives their employees a raise sufficient to adequately live on.

It's high level management and those in the board rooms that make sure they survive and to heck with the average employee.


And, as far as milk being $4.00 a gallon.........well, when was the last time it took fifteen gallon of milk to drive to and from work?

You can't expect people who have vehicles paid off to go out and take on another vehicle loan just so they can get 25 MPG versus 12 with what they have.

The oil companies ARE puting it in the American publics arse for some time.

Big oil companies are not supportive of alternative fuels (for obvious reasons) but they are slowly investing in varied forms of those sources. Once they have a controlling interest in those companies alternative fuels will soon go out of sight.

Greed....greed.....greed......yepper, fer sure.

I don't have the exact figures but I'm willing to bet if it were found out how many politicians, federal, state and local, are investors or holders in oil production the number would make everything quite obvious.
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Old 08-01-2004, 08:51 PM   #23
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LOL, PaPa,you sure get tore up if someone don't see it your way.
As for the ragheads, if it were up to me you could bet your !!!!!
that those countries would no longer be on the face of the earth.
Europe,I really don't know of a thing I need from them.HEHE !!
I got past being a boy over 50 years ago.Ammo on a schwinn,
not real sure about that,but I heard that the VC could move a lot of it.
Come to think of it they moved armies on them.
What would happen if we didn't buy gas for two days?
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Old 08-01-2004, 09:20 PM   #24
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LOL, PaPa,you sure get tore up if someone don't see it your way.
As for the ragheads, if it were up to me you could bet your !!!!!
that those countries would no longer be on the face of the earth.
Europe,I really don't know of a thing I need from them.HEHE !!
I got past being a boy over 50 years ago.Ammo on a schwinn,
not real sure about that,but I heard that the VC could move a lot of it.
Come to think of it they moved armies on them.
What would happen if we didn't buy gas for two days?
don't bother me none, we all has our opinions, if some one don't like my positions so what!!!

sure the VC moved lots of material on bikes, they piled them high and stacked them deep, not unusual for 500 lb loads, Charlie guided and pushed the load, no riding down the Ho Chi Minh trail.

boycott gas??? go right a head and report back how well it went.
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Old 08-01-2004, 11:44 PM   #25
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I've spent over half of my life working in the "alternative" fuel field.
Photovoltaics, earth driven heat pumps, etc.
Take it from somebody who has studied this energy stuff. Oil and gas will always be number one. When nuclear fission becomes a reality then we can say goodbye to the oil companies. I doubt anyone here will be alive to see it.
There is one other thing that bothers me. The technology might already exist and its being kept secret. Its very possible. Its even probable.
Imagine the US if no gas was used for 2 days. It would be a total disaster!
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Old 08-02-2004, 12:19 AM   #26
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ya know, if we could find someone to get all us gun and game folks in one building and keep us supplied in beer pencils and ammo i bet we could figger out that cold fussion thang in a few days and have a working model!
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Old 08-02-2004, 08:35 AM   #27
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Yup! Big oil.....they love to kill the cash cow. I don't mind they make money. Hey, that's why they call it business. But, how much profit is fair and how much really goes to the share holders?
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Old 08-02-2004, 08:42 AM   #28
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Dale's right about one thing. I can buy a lot of gas for my 92 F-150@ 12MPG comapred to what it cost for anew vehicle payment.

Rock on guys!
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Old 08-02-2004, 09:42 AM   #29
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Hey they need this money so they can give it to the republicans for the upcoming elections.
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Old 08-02-2004, 10:19 AM   #30
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Hey they need this money so they can give it to the republicans for the upcoming elections.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA

and you don't think the Democraps palms aren't greasy from oil company contributions???
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Old 08-02-2004, 12:14 PM   #31
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GGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!! :insane:
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I'm with you Rave! GRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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