CDNN is advertising Remington 870 Express shotguns in 16 gauge for $229..should LD buy one ?

[Big Dog]

I like mine, LD! It was the first gun I was able to "special order", getting the particular features I wanted.
30 inch barrel with ful choke.
No vent rib - makes cleaning much easier!

My "Sweet Sixteen" has taken many sqiurrels over the years. Good knock-down power with less recoil.
The shells can be more difficult to find, but if you're into milsurps, you know the sources and how to find 'em.

Go for it!

[BattleRifleG3]

I like the 12 myself. If you like the 16, go for it. The strange following for the 16ga is something I'll never understand but respect just the same.

it's a cult following thing like the .41 magnum and 10mm have strong cult followings :target:

[jerry]

rather the wingmaster, but xpress would be nice.

[ScottD]

If you are going to step into the sixteen gauge 870. I too would do it in the Wing Master model and not the Express. Just my opinion. I have a Stevens SxS in 16ga. and I use it for grouse. I like it.

Quote:       Originally Posted by jerry

rather the wingmaster, but xpress would be nice.

if you can find a 16 gauge Wingmaster for around $229 you guys let me know where it is and I'll get it :right:

[jerry]

Selling quality, not price.

I think in the long run you would be happier with the Wingmaster. You have a tenacious reputation for being able to save your pennies for guns and seem very pacient doing it.

With the need for SST guns you have specified in the past, I'm not sure if either would work for you. The x-press will corrode way faster than the wingmaster under normal operating conditions.

[BattleRifleG3]

Ok, so I'm not familiar with the distinction. What makes the Wingmaster better than the 870?

[jerry]

They are both 870's Wingmaster is basically a higher grade:

Here is a good comparison on the 16 ga 870's

http://www.remington.com/firearms/sh...i_870_16ga.htm

It seems like the black oxide likes to rust quickly. they say they have the same smooth action, I don't think so. The x-press feels "gritty" Looks, Wingmaster hands down. Mine is 23 years old and has hunted every year expect a couple I spent overseas. It still looks like new, and I still have a great deal of pride of ownership. I love to pull that gun out and admire it.

I can't afford one right now...I'm going to be spending a lot of money on AR-15 rifles next month..I have to buy an Armalite and get some work done on my Bushmaster.

One day I will have a Wingmaster

[jerry]

You can always trade the x-press up later.

Remington has just re-released the 16 ga wingmaster. I hope it stays around, but you never know.

whenever I do get a Wingmaster it will most probably be a 12 gauge

[ScottD]

BRG3 wingmaster is a high polished blued gun. The Express is not polished and is bead blasted and then has a parkerized tpye of finish.

I have found the Express finish to be not as rust resistant as a good blue finish can be.

http://www.ableammo.com/mall/guns_sh...aster_16ga.asp

[lefty o]

here's my take on this. if you want a gun to toss behind the seat in the truck, get the express. if you want something you'll care for and appreciate, get the wingmaster. the only other consideration for the 16 ga is the ammo- you dont find it everywhere, and the selection isnt that great. i like my 16 , and if i felt the need for another it would definately be the wingmaster.

[Oxford]

In 1961 I bought a used Browning Sweet Sixteen for $100 in Wichita, KS at a discount place called "House of Davids." I shot a lot of quail, squirrel and clay pigeons over the years. It's loaded with ventilated rib, recoil pad, gold plated trigger, checkered forestock and grip, and is in 90% condition in my estimation. Wouldn't sell it for $1,000, though.

Ox :nod:

[GeneCockrell]

The 16 is not really such a cult thing, it's regional. That and the fact that unless you're shooting 1 3/8 oz or heavier loads, the 16 is all you need. Especially if you have one of the guns like the original Win mod 12 or the Browning sweet 16 that have dedicated 16 gage size frames and are really about perfectly sized. I had an old 1950's 870 (borrowed for several years) in 16 gage and that thing was death on doves.