Old 08-07-2004, 01:52 PM   #1
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Question Could someone look up a price...?

My dad has an old .22 pistol that I use often when rabbit hunting. I have noticed that my friends dad also has one and was looking into buying another one. I was wondering if someone who had a Blue Book or some other type of book could look up the value of this pistol. It is a HS Model 21 S. I think it is made by Schmidt Ostheim/Rhoem, Made is Germany. If someone would please help my by looking up the price of this gun I would greatly appreciate it.
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Old 08-08-2004, 08:48 PM   #2
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There are several RG's (Rhom /Giah) handguns listed in the Blue Book , but the 21 is not one of them. My first pistol was a RG 23 .22LR snub-nosed revolver. I loved it and it shot flawlessly, but wasn't very acurate (whoda thought). Those guns dont have any collectors value and are concidered amoung the gun world as "saturday night specials". The RG 10, 14, and 23 are only valued at around 50-75 bucks in 95% condition. I'm pretty sure your gun is either an earlier or run-off of this German Manufcturer. Good shooters, but not very valuable.
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Old 08-08-2004, 08:56 PM   #3
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HS - H. Schmidt weapon technology, east home (Rhoen)

... an enterprise with moved history:

1919 based of the brothers Franz and Herbert Schmidt in Zella Mehlis. The establishment resolution took place in the cellar of the parental house.

With a foot-claimant turning lathe, a field feldschmiede and some vices with four workers einlaeufige cock guns in the calibers of 12, 16, 20 and 410 were manufactured. Likewise one concerned oneself with the manufacturing of wrenches.

As assembly workshop and dispatch place two eliminated living rooms were purpose-alienated.

With always far rising production numbers began one with the mechanism and later extension of a workshop, until one could speak then last of a factory.

1928 burned down the enterprise to the largest part. It was afterwards however again developed.

Around this time the extension of the production programme took place around Flobert rifles in the calibers of 6 and 9 mm, as well as likewise one began pellet carbines in the caliber of 410. with the manufacturing of air pistols.

Armament makers Schmidt work in this time to approximately 90 % for the export. One supplied predominantly to South America with emphasis Brazil.

Before that 2. One received orders from Sweden to world war. Repetierbuechsen in the calibers of 6,5x55 and 8x57 IS were ordered.

During 2. WK busy one mainly with the manufacturing, repair and repair of rifles of the type 98 K. in addition came itself the execution armament-conditioned trick -, sharpening and fraesarbeiten.

1945 took place the evacuation of the company after Wuertemberg.

After that 2. One began WK with the production and the trade of bicycle axles, pedals, wire glass furnaces and gedrechselten tischlampen.

Herbert Schmidt established itself with its family finally in east home (Rhoen).

1950 one acquired the manufacture license for starting and gas weapons. In rented areas one began with the production of a einschuessigen starting pistol.

To be able to extend one year later an old barrack bought and developed by the production range by further models. In addition gas and platzpatronen with turned aluminum cases were manufactured.

Later a achtschuessiger since gun in the caliber of 22lr followed

A new property was in addition-bought and established whereupon factory buildings.

1959 appeared a single act ion gun in the style of the Colt Frontier Scout, caliber of 22 Magnum

Into the 1970er years became both sharp SA guns in the calibers of 22lr, 22Mgn. and 357 Mgn. manufactured, and for platzpatronen 6 mm freely for sale and 9 mm (Westernausfuehrung, in addition, copies with adjustable Visierung)

In the production programme now also in and mehrschuessige air pistols, mini guns are as key trailers and einschuessige gas/starting pistols.

1974 died Herbert Schmidt. The company was resumed by its son Wolfgang together with wife Christa.

1977 additional manufacturing of blank weapons. Among other things bayonets and combat measurers.

1979 anniversary 60 years HS.

1994 present the HS armament makers GmbH the following new publications:

- SA guns?Texas Scout?, changable of 45 long Colt on calibers of 22lr.. change drum, switchable firing pin and putting in run make this possible. The weapon is in 3? - or 4?-Lauf available.

- since guns?Buffalo Combo?, convertible of 38 on 22 lr.

- model more?Undercover? a gun is in the caliber 9 mm K with 2?-Lauf and covered hammer.

Center/end of the 1990er years expired the company HS weapon technology GmbH.

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Exclamation Joe's gonna have a field day with this

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cock guns in the calibers of 12, 16, 20 and 410 were manufactured.
even though I believe they mean upland game guns
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Old 08-08-2004, 10:15 PM   #5
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That still is not answering my question. I was just looking for the price because i want to buy the same gun from a friend so i can have 2 of them.
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Old 08-09-2004, 03:10 PM   #6
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I dont think they are in production any more.
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Old 08-09-2004, 04:53 PM   #7
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That still is not answering my question. I was just looking for the price because i want to buy the same gun from a friend so i can have 2 of them.
sorry man..I tried :right:
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As stated earlier, RG does not have a very good name in gun circles and in general just don't sell very well.. If it is a .22 revolver in fair to good condition it value is probably some where around $50-$75. Kind of like trying to sell a "SEARS" or "MONTGOMERY WARDS" shotgun.
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Old 08-09-2004, 05:08 PM   #9
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$100 at the most....
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$100 at the most....
And thats absofreakinglootly mint....
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Old 08-09-2004, 07:47 PM   #11
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Ok, thank you guys for helping me on my search.
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sorry I couldn't find your price :guitar:
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Besides all of US experts @ G&G, (snicker,snicker), try Jim Supica @ http://www.armchairgunshow.com/gunvalue.htm . From all I've found, I have to agree with everyone else-$100.00 tops, unless someone knows something really special about it-history or rarity can definitely up the price.
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Old 08-09-2004, 11:48 PM   #14
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It is ok. I am starting to go toward buying a heritage with mother of pearl grips. They seem to be very nice guns and im a sucker for pearl grips.
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Old 08-10-2004, 12:00 AM   #15
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Take a look at the Traditions and Cimmarron guns as well as the U.S. Firearms Rodeo. They are all reasonably priced, well-made guns.
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Old 08-10-2004, 12:07 AM   #16
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Ok, thank you toolman. I will take it into consideration. One way or another I am getting a .22 pistol.
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