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Old 08-27-2004, 08:54 AM   #1
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Simply horrible....gun-grabber will feed off of this one!

http://www.ksat.com/news/3683844/detail.html

Makes me sick!
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Old 08-27-2004, 09:38 AM   #2
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These are senseless deaths. Why wouldn't those responsible members of the family keep their guns under complete control? Or at least make them unaccessible to kids in their family without adult supervision? This seems like simply a matter of not following basic gun safety rules according to the story.

"According to Schertz police, Charles Neddo was playing with a .357-caliber handgun when it accidentally went off, wounding his younger brother, David Neddo. The younger sibling died on the way to University Hospital.

Apparently distraught over what happened, Charles Neddo turned the gun on himself, police said. He died at the scene."
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Old 08-27-2004, 10:40 AM   #3
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Exactly...never heard of a gun accidentally going off. They should have said, "Accidentally pulled the trigger."
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Exactly, not only that but a complete lack of educating these kids about the dangers of guns. Obviously had not been taught a danged thing about gun safety.
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Old 08-27-2004, 12:24 PM   #5
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Guns don't accidentally fire they are intentionally fired -- the control is the finger - Last I checked educating your kids at a young age about guns was the safest method -- we didn't have this number of problems 30 years ago.
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Old 08-27-2004, 08:35 PM   #6
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basiclly the same thing happend by my house a few years ago a dad and his kids just got home from a parade(he had been drinkin) and they went to his room and his two kids i think they were around 5 and 7 years of age well anyway the dad said he took his .357 out of his holster and was placing it on the back of the bed when it discharged killing his 5 year old instantly(went right through his left temple) it must have been sad for his brother to see that i mean a five year old and a .357 at point blank range my god that was a mess. i don't know whatever happened to the dad oh by the way the gun was a revolver so to me he had to have had his finger on the trigger or the hammer cocked.
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i'll correct myself it was the right temple
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Old 08-27-2004, 09:05 PM   #8
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I had a good friend killed many years ago because his dad was stupid and had a loaded pistol under the front seat of his car....loaded and cocked.
He picked the kid up at school and on his way home he stopped at a store to get a pack of smokes and left his 2 kids in the car. Both kids were in the back seat. The younger brother jumped over the seat into the front. When he did, the gun went off and hit my friend right between the eyes and killed him instantly.
I still think about that to this day. The dad was never prosecuted.
This was way before there was counseling in schools but I was the last person the guy ever saw except for his brother. Still think about him almost 40 years later.
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Old 08-27-2004, 10:33 PM   #9
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Guns are dangerous
the reason that we see so many more accidents and gun related situations is that no one expects a young person to be responsible.
They can be ya know. The media and TV and movies allways show little kids acting like idiots Especially with guns!
well ya know when I was a little itty bitty boy I was around guns all the time I did everything like I was supposed to
Exactly right every time
I was in kindergarden.
4 years old
and I remember getting to carry the .22 rifle from the Farm house to the bench behind the house where we shot it.
Muzzel up, dont drop it, keep your finger away from the trigger guard.
I learned to walk, got pottytrained and learned to shoot.
in that order.
out of All the thousands and thousands of rounds That I have ever fired I have to admit I have had 3 accidential discharges
one was a hammer safety malfunction, the other was a thumb slipped off the hammer of a .45 while de cocking it (pointed in a safe direction) and the third was just plain stupidity
Me and a buddy where looking at each others guns (Unloaded)in the back area of his Tatoo shop and another buddy walked up and handed me his loaded .22 revolver I was pointing it in a safe direction and was admiring the trigger pull and BLAM I put a hole in the carpet.
I had failed to check the gun when it came in to my hand .
I have never been so embarrassed
Of course handing a loaded gun in to a coupla guys that are dry fireing each others pistols is not the smartest thing there ever was either.
I have handled thousands and thousands of guns for decades and I can still screw up.
thank god I remember the "point it in a safe direction" rule.
Guys that say they have never had a AD are either lieing or just very careful.
and its just not their turn, YET
I was 32 when I had my first one
Kids CAN and are responsible enough to handle firearms safely
if they are tought and are capable of being honest and responsible.
just like adults they can screw up
We adults dont have the "out" of saying we are just a kid like the kids do.
My Dad tought me the right way.
It is up to us to teach the kids the right way
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Old 08-28-2004, 12:17 AM   #10
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Most of firearms safety is just plain common sense. My older brother and I never had anyone teaching us about firearms, and we never had a problem, because just like Dennis, always pointed in a safe direction is the primary rule that should never be violated. I have always been conscious of where even a piece of pipe is pointed, this is almost an obsession with me.

My older brother and I started shooting his old .22 Cal single shot Savage, when he was about 9 and I was about 6 1/2. He had bought it from an adult neighbor for $5.00.

A couple of years later my dad bought a .22 Cal Benjamin pellet rifle, that my brother and I shot a lot. I got so that I could light a "Stick Match" at about 10 yards with it, 8 out of 10 times.

Shortly after that my dad bought a Remington M1917, surplus with 5,000 rounds of AP for $25.00. He an uncle my older brother and I went to the hills to shoot, and they would not let me shoot it (I was 8 1/2).

A week later my older brother and I took it to the hills and both of us shot it, while it knocked me around, it didn't scare me. We made targets with newspaper sheets with a black painted bullseye, put them against the side of the hill (with no rocks behind them), and had a great time. It doesn't take a "Rocket Scientist" to know you have to keep the bullet going into a known location that will control it.

So there is a 10 year old and an 8 1/2 year old practicing gun safety with no training, and we never had a problem.
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That is a sad story, everyone loses. Except the anti gun people.

When my wife and I were first married, I heard a shot ring out on evening. I went out side to investigate at first nothing seemed amiss, but then I heard a child scream from the house behind ours. When I got there was a boy of about eight laying on the floor with half his face gone and his older brother of about 10 was crying over him there was a rifle laying on the floor. After calling for help, I was there trying to help this child and had no idea what to do, it was only a couple of minutes before help arrived but those where the worse minutes of my life. The kid lived but he was messed up pretty bad and he required a lot of surgery to repair his face. I never talked to the parents or the child again but I was able to follow his recovery through a friend who worked in his doctor’s office.

I also grew up around guns, I have owned guns since I was 8 years old. Dennis I have also had one accidential discharge. I was about 10 shooting with my father and I had cleaned and oiled my marlin lever action and I went to put the safety on and there was oil on the hammer and my thumb slipped off. The shot went down range, hurting no one except my pride.

Teaching gun safety to children is the most important thing we as gun owners can do. I have taught both of my children how to handle firearms safely. And when the chances has come up I have taught my nieces and nephews a little about gun safety.
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Old 08-28-2004, 01:45 PM   #12
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i had one acidental discharge of a shotgun i was siting in a field hunting quail when i don't know why but i just wanted to check my safty i had the gun resting in my groin well the safty failed lucky for me i was born with a un decending nut.(it was an eye opener.12 guage jc higgins verry old.
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Old 08-29-2004, 09:26 AM   #13
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You guys are absolutly correct! There is n substitute for safety! As explained to me: "Once the bullet leaves the barrel, there is no calling it back!" There is no such thing as being "too careful!"
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