09-30-2004, 02:11 AM
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| Super Moderator   | [quote=Lenny2][quote=11c_infantry]And yes, Lenny And Lenny, the reason we don't see more Islamic attacks is not due to the peaceful nature of the Muslim religion, but, by in large, because the Islamic world is stuck in the 15th century. Quote:
Lenny they killed 3,000 Americans on Sept. 11, 2001 these were Muslims in this country They Killed/Injured 1,000 Americans during the first Tower Bombing in 93 -- whats it take a nuke in your front yard to see that Muslims are nothing but people who will only have it their way and if not all others die.
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09-30-2004, 05:56 AM
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| Hay I liked the Turner Diaries....the Rabbi gave me his copy to read .....I think more people purchased/read that book to "know" whats up with the neo-nazi movement than actual members of that movement have  1 small ..realy small point Lenney2 IN the USA you have a rather large distinction between Muslims..as in followers of Islam and the profit Mohamad.....and Nation of Islam ...who follow the teachigs of the "honrable" Elija Mohamad and Malcom X. I will not realy bore you as you are a scholar of religions with a long explanation  However the main diffrences is that the Malcome X muslims are generaly not accepted at Islamic Mosque and are not viewed by "true" muslims as being muslims...are if acknoledged they are viewed as very missquided..(The DC "Sniper" was a Nation of Islam Muslim)....were as "true" muslims follow the teacheings of the Prophet Mohamad...Nation of Islam is more of a Black Surprimsaist....Prison Gang...religion that is part of the Black Sepratist movement and basicly views anything White as wrong....basicly Black KKK/Neo Nazis.....they are not involed with the "strugle" of the middle eastern Muslims and their issues....thus are viewed as "out of touch" by "true" muslims with the real issues. Yes they read the Koran...face Mecca to Pray but the political and social aims of the 2 groups are vastly diffrent. So your numbers are inaccurate as my spelling Yes Islam is a fast growing religion...I rember a recent disscussion ...on a diffrent board/form...about the Catholic Church's concern that Islam is gaining a strong following in South America and Africa countries that the Church traditionaly had a strong presence in. There are other religions that are also "converting" traditioanl Christian followers...such as the New Age...Spiritual type views....The Bahai faith and of course Wicca has attacted a lot of teenagers and people in the west that feel disenchanted with the church. |
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09-30-2004, 08:14 AM
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| Senior Member   | Personallly, I like the Turner Diaries and found it to be well written. Sure, some disliked points of view but, on the whole, I thought plausable in that setting. Hunter is pretty good, also. You should read it. Though we may not like the premise, we may one day be in a simlar position.....shooting some other group....
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09-30-2004, 08:24 AM
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| lenny every terorist attack (baring oklahoma city) so far an US soil has been commited by muslims who have been in this country for over a year. if you are gona try and defend your sorry position at least get your false facts straight. btw if you want to know the real stats on your muslim buddys try looking up some of thier website that have been translated to english, but by the sound of it you probly won't need the translation.
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09-30-2004, 08:54 AM
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09-30-2004, 04:20 PM
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So you see, between my alleged readings of the Turner Diaries -- which I've never even heard of -- I can at least do a little research. Yousef, who was living in the US at the time, set off a bomb in an attempt to topple the WTC...thankfully, that didn't happen, but there were costs associated with this Islam Fascist’s attack on our nation: By the way – did I mention he was living in the US? 6 civilians killed Over 1,000 injured 105 firefighters injured - 5 admitted to local hospitals reinforced floors almost 30 inches think blasted away on 3 levels below grade, plus a concourse level floor,leaving a crater about 150 feet in diameter at it's largest point. On the B1 level, the operations control center of the Port Authority Police Department (and the fire command station forthe complex) was heavily damaged and rendered out of service. On the B2 level, various walls of elevator shafts and freshair plenums severely damaged, allowing smoke to enter and rise through the cores of both towers. Numerous concrete walls destroyed or damaged. 200,000 cubic feet of water poured into the lowest grade fromdamaged refrigeration unit supplies (from the Hudson River),sewer lines, fresh domestic water lines, steam pipes, and condensate return. Water 1.5 feet deep across the B6 level. 124 parked cars destroyed, 102 damaged. Partition walls blown out onto PATH train mezzanine. Numerous telephone conduits collapsed from ceiling onto cars (but phone service was not cut, miraculously). Fire alarm and public address systems out of service. Elevators out of service. Water cooled emergency generators shut down due to overheating when their water supply was cut. This disabled the emergency lighting. Sprinklers & standpipes out of service. 2,500 tons of rubble removed. Clean up effort involved 2,700 workers per day, plus a total of 160,000 gallons of cleaning fluid and 200,00 gallons of detergent. Restoration cost: $250,000,000. Tenants began moving back into tower 2 on March 18, 1993,tower 1 on March 29, 1993. The Vista Hotel opened early this year. And oh yeah....Most 9/11 Terrorists Carried Florida Driver's Licenses. Where did they get those I wonder? In Mecca or Medina I guess, since they weren't living in the US. Lenny just needs to do a little research between his readings in the Koran me thinks.
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09-30-2004, 05:25 PM
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| Here's Lenny! :right:
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09-30-2004, 10:15 PM
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And christianity has a pricture perfect record............... Not all followers of islam are terrorists just as not all christians are abortion clinic bombers. The things most people profess in the name of religion is a usually a masquerade for their hatred. Most of these people are ignorant and uneducated.
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09-30-2004, 10:20 PM
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Thanks Dale; I could not have said it any better. Its all about couth and humility. Something that seems to be missing from alot of the posts here.
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09-30-2004, 10:29 PM
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09-30-2004, 10:53 PM
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they where armed with m-16's and placement of one m-60 that as i recall emptied one full belt into the vehical before it passed by and detonated. the forward motion of the truck would have been enough to carry it to its target even if the block had been shatered and the driver killed. the perimeter was too close to the buildings and the m-60 and m-16's all beit plenty to have killed the driver and stop the motor would not have stoped the truck from costing to its target with any type of ammo.
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10-01-2004, 01:56 AM
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10-01-2004, 05:54 AM
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| Actualy the guards on duty....there were 2 or 3 sandbag guard post in the parkinglot...hat rifles and loaded magazines...but were not allowed to have mag in rifle or round chambered.....the truck drove between two post and over the sgt of the guard sandbag hut at the main entrence.....no m-60s there were 2 tow missle launchers on the west side of the building...1 of wich could have pointed in the direction the truck came from...but the missles were stored in the armory on the first floor...so no chance in hell of getting someone to autrorise getting the missles...humping them to the roof... also the rules of engagement were realy restrictive....rember we were peace keepers...not there to hurt anyone...so even if Marines on duty were locked and loaded it took an officer to OK fireing...and they would protect their creer by calling up the chain for approval. For history buffs...or trivia buffs...look at pictures of marines in lebnon....notice NO ONE had gas mask as part of their gear...why? Because they did not want the press to take a pic of a marine trying on his mask and accuse us of chemical warefare. Also it took approval of some NATO general in England I belive to use Artilery or airstrikes....back then no cell phones so not a fast process of contacting explaing situation up the chain of command..to NATO...then back down...it was a giant cluster uck all the way around....Polatics was the big order of the day....and a lot of the polatics were officers protecting themselfs by not takeing a stand or makeing a deccision without going up the chain of command... NOW to say who was right/wrong...well MY ONW belife is that we got between several religious and long standing fanatic groups....Like a cop will tell yo a domestic dispute is the worst call....we got between these groups and said play nice...and they all turned on us.....of course I belive that the only way we will see peace in the middle east is when Oil becomes worthless...and thus these groups have no $$ to buy guns/ammo...or someone sets off several nukes and makes the entire area uninhabatable....lets face it in that are they have been fighting since the first monkey developed an opsible thumb and could toss a rock. btw the 23 of Oct is the anaversery of the event. |
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10-01-2004, 01:15 PM
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10-01-2004, 01:20 PM
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Lenny your comment tells me you have the intellect of a child -- why can't you just see the false statements you make about the muslims? These people are nothing but future killers they are trained in thier schools to hate us and I wouldn't put it past them to do it here. I would put money that the naturalized muslims in this country will vote Kerry just to weaken the force being put on killing thier kind.
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10-01-2004, 04:10 PM
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And noooooo...Muslims in this country wouldn't support Kerry in order to stifle the war on Terror (which seeks to annihilate those within their religion giving them a bad name). They're going to vote for the man who will liberate their fellow Muslims from oppressive governments dedicated to wholesale torture and suppression of women's rights. Not. Darn Shaun, sounds like you need to go to Lenny’s School of IslamoFascist Brainwashing, Allah be praised for it. Where you can receive as healthy indoctrination in ignoring the facts, Allah be praised. Where you will learn that Islam is a religion of peace, and all the car bombs and beheadings are a Western illusion, Allah smite them for it. Where you will learn to ignore the massive human right’s violations embraced by Islamic regimes, which is another American illusionist tactic, Allah punish them for it. Where you will learn that Islamic leaders do not place Ak-47s in the hands of children and ask them to fight a superior force, which is simply more of the world’s propaganda, Allah protect us. And most importantly, you’ll learn to badmouth people who cannot ignore the ideology of hate festering in the bosom of Islam. You’ll learn to make excuses and split hairs, Allah be praised. And finally, you’ll learn that “all our bases are belong to Lenny,” Allah, the great and powerful (but don’t look behind that curtain because you might see the ugly face of a hate mongering religion), bless you*. * This blessing does not apply to Jews, Americans, and Westerners in general. Nor is this blessing aimed at anyone in the Islamic community brave enough to stand up to the tyranny.
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10-01-2004, 04:14 PM
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| Super Moderator | 11c I don't think so -- I just look at it as a general factor and have condemned all the islamics - it is as simple as the fact that all the 9/11 terrorists were arab males, islamic religion, on the hate america doctrine - So therefore I don't trust a single one of the sand turkey's
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